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garlicguy
09-14-2007, 10:27 AM
<tt><tt>I received the following via email this morning. I do not know
the origin,(thus no link and it appears to be public domain),
but the byline surprised me somewhat.

Can anyone here verify the source? :confused:
__________________________________________________ _____________

Just because Vietnam ended several decades ago {1975} doesn't lessen
the pain these American Service Personnel suffered in Vietnamese captivity,
nor should that episode in U.S. history ever be forgotten, or those who
propagated such inhumane treatment.


A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century."

BY BARBRA WALTERS

Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.

The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away. During the subsequent beating,
he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's
feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton", the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand.

When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam , and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi .

My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.

At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.

I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."

Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343


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DoctorDoom
09-14-2007, 10:37 AM
The story is common, but there's no evidence that Hanoi Jane handed slips of paper to the camp officers. What the treasonous bitch actually did was evil enough.

Jane Fonda Urban Legends (http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda_urban_legends.htm)

garlicguy
09-14-2007, 11:15 AM
Thanks for the excellent link. Oh, and obviously, (as you mentioned DoctorD), the truth of Ms. Fonda's aiding the enemy needs no exaggeration.

Think I'll forward the link to the person who sent the article, and also the Snopes link from the UrbanLegends page.

Jack_Savage
09-14-2007, 11:24 AM
The pieces of paper arn't the issue and I think she did give them to the guards, but so what, what she did was just as bad or worse. Similar to Dennis Kucinich going to Syria. She is a spoiled little brat who grew up on being popular with the in crowd. Didn't have to do anything to earn her place anywere. All she and her brother and his wife Becky want to know is "are you a left-wing Democrat?" Its what they trade on. Hollow hearts shriveling up, who will sell you and anyone else out for the next picture. If Hollywierd becomes conservative they will follow.

Rhino
09-14-2007, 12:05 PM
Clues:

There is no BARBRA WALTERS

The awards were back in 1999 on a Barbara Walters special and in a book by her

If Barbara Walters was going to honor Fonda, why would she author such a piece?

It says "Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can", which is a hallmark of internet hoaxes.

The e-mail you got was written in the winter of 1999 and sent to Jone Johnson Lewis, in response to an article about the Barbara Walters book and special. It was debunked back then, but since so many gullible people can't resist those "Please take the time to forward" remarks, hoaxes like this circulate for years.

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/mythsofwomenshistory/a/jane_fonda_myth.htm

BabyBeastie
09-14-2007, 07:02 PM
Yep. Another old urban legend making its rounds on the Internet again.

Beowulf
09-14-2007, 07:15 PM
Jane Fonda is a traitor and should be executed as such. I sometimes wonder how she goes through life knowing that her actions led to the deaths of so many. If it were me, I think I would have taken my own life shortly thereafter if someone else didn't first.

Air Force Guy
09-15-2007, 09:29 PM
Yep. Another old urban legend making its rounds on the Internet again.Not exactly. 2/3rds of the email account about Jane Fonda was true.

I think Jane apologized several years ago for it but then eventually recanted that apology fairly recently. I could be mistaken about the recanting.

Pennville_Bill
09-16-2007, 07:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Pennville_Bill/Other%20Stuff/Fonda.jpg

DeclinetoState
09-17-2007, 12:14 PM
There is no BARBRA WALTERS

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9611/15/barbra/barbra.lg.jpg http://www.nndb.com/people/440/000023371/bawa-1-sized.jpg

Really?

:grin:

Lazarus
09-17-2007, 12:29 PM
Ack!!! My eyes!!! My eyes!!!

Rhino
09-17-2007, 01:18 PM
There is no BARBRA WALTERS

Really?Yes, really.

HINT: Check the spelling.

Air Force Guy
09-17-2007, 04:23 PM
Spelling recently changed to Berber...

...Meant to be walked on repeatedly.

DesertFox
09-17-2007, 06:42 PM
I'm so tired of seeing this particular urban legend, reeking outrage and self righteousness.

But I'm sick to my soul of Jane Fonda. May she suffer torments in hell.

DeclinetoState
09-18-2007, 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by DeclinetoState http://www.freeconservatives.com/images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=584916#post584916)
There is no BARBRA WALTERS

Really?
Yes, really.

HINT: Check the spelling.

The Schnozz and Baba Wawa.

Maggie_T
09-18-2007, 06:33 PM
Personally, I want the urban legends on Hanoi Jane to stop ... only because, outrageous as it may seem, they turn her into the victim.

There is enough material to condemn her for the traitor she is. No need to make stuff up.

As for this little tidbit

"To make the revolution in the United States is a slow day by day job that requires patience and discipline. It is the only way to make it. . . . All I know is that despite the fact that I am one of the people who benefit from a capitalist society, I find that any system which exploits other people cannot and should not exist."

This is the most revoltingly Pharisaical, serlf-serving, most hypocritical statement that bitch could ever have come up with, and is, in my book, enough to condemn her to a firing squad. :flame:

Jack_Savage
09-18-2007, 06:39 PM
Personally, I want the urban legends on Hanoi Jane to stop ... only because, outrageous as it may seem, they turn her into the victim.

There is enough material to condemn her for the traitor she is. No need to make stuff up.

As for this little tidbit

"To make the revolution in the United States is a slow day by day job that requires patience and discipline. It is the only way to make it. . . . All I know is that despite the fact that I am one of the people who benefit from a capitalist society, I find that any system which exploits other people cannot and should not exist."

This is the most revoltingly Pharisaical, serlf-serving, most hypocritical statement that bitch could ever have come up with, and is, in my book, enough to condemn her to a firing squad. :flame:
Ditto.