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BarryC
09-29-2007, 09:36 PM
These are my opinions. Your actual mileage may vary.
When they decided to make a movie remake of Mission Impossible I never went to see it, because of the previews. After watching the previews I had no interest in it. Why? Because what I saw in the previews was a movie full of hardcore action, i.e. explosions and other related things. The original series was more about covert operations, right? So they took an old TV series and changed it into something completely different when it was remade as a movie.

The same goes for Casino Royale. The original was a comedic spoof of James Bond movies. The remake, from what I saw in the previews, was an action packed, hard-core action movie. Again, a classic old movie was made into something completely different. I chose not to see it.

Then there's The Dukes of Hazzard. They took an innocent and fun tv series and added a measure of sleaze to it. Back in the 70s I watched the series every time it was on. But this movie had a measure of sleaze in it that the TV series just didn't have. I was a bit disappointed, although Jessica Simpson made an unbelievably hot Daisy Duke, just as sexy as Catherine Bach.

Then there's The Twilight Zone, one of the greatest old TV series ever made, IMO. The 1985 remake series just didn't have what the original had, although I'm not sure you could blame that on anyone. It's just that the original is very hard to duplicate. But the 2002 remake series was quite good, almost up there with the original, IMO. That's the one with Forest Whitaker as the opening narrator.

There's also The Addams Family, another classic that's nearly impossible to replicate. The actors that starred in the original are all irreplaceable. I mean, how can you find an actor to play Lurch other than Ted Cassidy? The same goes for John Astin and Carolyn Jones, and all the others too. That would be nearly impossible. The movies were okay, but not like the original series at all. There was also a remake series in 1998-99. It was quite funny, but still the characters just weren't as good as the originals. I used to watch the remake series when I used to babysit my nieces when they were much younger. Otherwise I might never have even known about it.

Finally, a brand new remake, just out this past week. I used to love The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman, two of my favorite 70s shows. They have now done a remake series of The Bionic Woman. I forgot to watch it the other night, but a friend from work did see it. From his description it sounds like a bizzare science fiction show that bears little or no resemblance to the original. I'm not sure I even want to see it. But I probably will watch it once.

These are the ones I can think of right now. There may be others that I have opinions on, but I don't remember. :D
Barry

DeclinetoState
09-30-2007, 05:09 PM
What gets me about many of the modern TV series being remakes of those from the past is that it meas Hollywood must be out of fresh ideas. Maybe if the producers, writers, directors and actors weren't all getting wasted, something original and creative would turn up . . .

HomeschoolrsRUs
09-30-2007, 05:13 PM
The WORST TV-to-Movie "remake" = Bewitched

Disgusting, unbelievabe even compared to the original whose unbelievable premise was the marriage of a mortal and a "good" witch. Nicole Kidman is NO Elizabeth Montgomery, and Colin Ferrell is CERTAINLY no Darrin! I was absolutely disgusted by it.

BarryC
09-30-2007, 06:41 PM
Wow. I never even saw that one. I think I heard about it though.

UnkHiram
10-01-2007, 05:27 PM
The Bionic Woman was terrible, I Tivo'd the first episode for my mother then wanted to burn the machine. Grrrrrrrrrr

Elgalad
10-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Hey Barry, I agree with you on most of your points, but I have to take exception with your reference to Casino Royale.

It's true that the 'original' movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/) produced in the 60's was actually a spoof or sendoff of that era's spy movies. But what you might not realize, is that there actually Was a book by Ian Fleming called 'Casino Royale' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_%28novel%29) which was a much more authentic James Bond novel, fitting well with the rest of the series.

I'm not sure what the full story was surrounding the spoof Casino Royale, but I'm sure it was never considered 'canon' since it resembled nothing like the other Bond movies/books, most especially the one from which it borrowed its name.

Now the most recent Casino Royale, (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/) starring Daniel Craig is a very close adaptation (updated to make it modern) of that old original spy novel by Ian Fleming and as such, is probably much closer to the original intent of his Bond series than most of the movies starring Connery, Moore, Dalton, or Brosnan.

So, while it's probably picking at nits.. it's likely more appropriate to call the 2006 'Casino Royale' a (long-delayed) original story rather than a remake. :thumb:


-Elgalad

Jack_Savage
10-01-2007, 08:53 PM
All the new productions are written to promote homosexual and socialistic motives.

How do you get in the movies today? Join some far-left or radical homosexual lobby group volunteering your time, never mentioning your conservative ideas. Act like you don't like driving the luxury auto you drive.

Act like you think the 5 to 35 thousand square foot homes you live in, really mean nothing to you and should be zoned into obsolessence. Protest against all the things you like, while consuming them at wharp speed. Do every kind of insane drug while condeming others who call for a return of ethical standards.

If you do all of that, spending every day studying up on what is the politically correct thing to say, blaming your mother and father for when you make a mistake, you might just make it in Hollywierd, even if its only for 10 minutes of fame. You just might get some award for writing a script that further tears down this country that gave you the opportunty you just took for granted.

Take the point where Hanoi-Jane rode on that Viet-cong tank and where we are today, use it as an arrow to show where we are headed, and how many cannot even see the consequences of going along with these pukes.

Just turn on the tv or go to a movie and look at who the new hero's are today. Are there enough of us to stand up and boycott the smut and greed of these punks.

As a movement, conservatives have been making one step forward, then two steps back, sometimes three, since Hanoi Jane made her hollywierd debut. Who's fault is that, Jane Fonda's or those buying the tickets?

UnkHiram
10-01-2007, 09:28 PM
I really hate to disagree with Eggie but the "Original" Casino Royale film was a TV Movie made for one of those 1950 era Playhouse things. Barry Newman starred as James Bond and it was closer to what we think of as a Bond Movie than the David Niven version, of course it bore very little resemblence to the book. ON a side note: I have a copy of that very rare Bond. TBS Showed it on Television about 15 years ago --- Just once and it was the first time since the 50's that it had been aired. Terrible movie, but it completes my Bond Collection.

Elgalad
10-01-2007, 10:01 PM
Hey I know the show you're talking about. I never actually Saw that original, but the Wiki write up mentioned it.. Technically, that is the very first "Bond" portrayal outside Fleming's books. :thumb:

My bad for not mentioning it, but I assumed Barry was just comparing the 2006 flick with the 1967 one. And yeah, you're right then, the 1954 tv show WAS the original, the 2006 movie another remake.. caught me. ;)


BTW, the 1967 one is hilarious.. haven't seen it in ages though. Gonna have to add that to my Blockbuster queue.


-E

BarryC
10-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Yes I was comparing the 2006 movie to the 1967 movie, not thinking about a book, and having never heard of the 1954 TV movie.
On a similar subject, last year I discovered a Doctor Who movie from the 1960s that did not star any of the actors who played the Doctor during any year of the show. I think it was coincident with the time of the First Doctor, yet the storylines were a bit different, and the Doctor himself was a bit different. It was quite interesting to watch at any rate. I suppose it's not considered a part of the Doctor Who canon.
But wasn't there a James Bond movie made in the 70s that was not considered part of the canon? I remember the movie, but I thought it was an official one. I never knew that it wasn't.
Barry
Hey I know the show you're talking about. I never actually Saw that original, but the Wiki write up mentioned it.. Technically, that is the very first "Bond" portrayal outside Fleming's books. :thumb:

My bad for not mentioning it, but I assumed Barry was just comparing the 2006 flick with the 1967 one. And yeah, you're right then, the 1954 tv show WAS the original, the 2006 movie another remake.. caught me. ;)


BTW, the 1967 one is hilarious.. haven't seen it in ages though. Gonna have to add that to my Blockbuster queue.


-E

Elgalad
10-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Yes there was.. "Never Say Never Again (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086006/)". :ooo:

It starred Sean Connery and had a great deal to do with the final settlement of a lawsuit between two film companies. It came out in 1983 at the same time "Octopussy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086034/)" was released, starring Roger Moore.

NSNA's plot was basically just a rehashed "Thunderball" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059800/) and it failed miserably at the box office. Octopussy faired much better. Some critics even suggested at the time that this was Moore's best portrayal of Bond and the point at which he should have retired from the series.. Watch "A View to a Kill (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090264/)" and make up your own mind. :rolleyes:


-E

UnkHiram
10-03-2007, 09:17 PM
Barry

I stumbled across those two Dr Who movies about a month go and immediately put them in my blockbuster queue

BTW, I do have a copy of the Barry Newman Bond, if you would like a copy PM me