Amero being minted right now...

[Timberwolf]

We're being sold down the river... (http://www.halturnershow.com/AmeroCoinArrives.html)
SPECIAL NOTICE TO READERS, Monday, September 10, 2007:
The web site "Snopes.com" has claimed today that the story below is FALSE. I stand-by the story.

I personally vouch for this story and stand-by every world of it no matter who says otherwise. I caught them and they know it.

So upset are the powers-that-be over this expose, they actually CLOSED THE DENVER MINT to the public so they can move the AMEROS out without being seen!

This from the Denver Mint Web Site:

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<img src="http://www.halturnershow.com/DenverMintStopsPublicToursToHideAmeros.jpg" width="600" height="340" /> (http://www.halturnershow.com/DenverMintStopsPublicToursToHideAmeros.jpg)

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My story has caused a huge amount of fallout for the folks trying to perpetrate this AMERO switch and they are doing everything possible to spin it, cover it up and say it isn't so.

-- Hal Turner



"THE AMERO" IS REAL;
I HAVE ONE TO PROVE IT!

UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO TO BE MERGED INTO SINGLE NEW ENTITY NAMED NORTH AMERICAN UNION!


By: Hal Turner

Three weeks ago, I published a brief snippet on the front page of my web site reporting the governments of the US Canada and Mexico are conspiring in secret to merge the three nations into a new entity called the North American Union.

There has been much talk of this on various internet blogs for over a year. Most of those blogs have been smeared as "conspiracy theorists" and have been largely ignored by the main stream.

What prompted my interest in the issue was money: I was sent professional images of actual AMERO coins by someone in the US Treasury! The person included a note saying they like my radio show and are frightened by what's been going on in secret within our government.

This Treasury Department person was outraged that our country was beginning to coin money as part of a merger that would do away with our country, via a merger the American public knew nothing about!

When I got the professional images of the AMERO coin, I was finally intrigued enough to make mention of it on my web site. My site has gotten over 20 Million visits in the last couple years and is becoming more popular because of the brutal honesty and timely delivery of news that folks don't find elsewhere. This story about AMERO coins would fit my niche of breaking news, so I ran a snippet of a story.

As part of my report, I included the professional images sent to me by the Treasury person. They appear below:
Here we go...

[Maggie_T]

Once upon a time, there used to be a country called the United States of America ...

[Maggie_T]

We're being sold down the river... (http://www.halturnershow.com/AmeroCoinArrives.html)



And I want reparations, dammit! :flame:

[EveningStar]

Amero being minted right now... :bsflag:

[Beowulf]

Where is the country I once so honorably served? Oh, it's left me. I served for nothing!:flame:

[BuckeyeMike]

Great debate there ES. Succinct, so full of information disproving TW's post, so full of information proving yours. It is really a deep read! Make a sticky of it maybe?

[EveningStar]

This has to be one of the most ridiculous "articles" I've ever seen. For kooks only.

[UnkHiram]

I think this thread should either be in the Conspiracy section or the delusional section. Being easily amused I went to the link and read the entire "article". Wow to think this Turner guy has the entire Federal Govt shaking in their boots because of his radio show (Never heard of it) and his website (Never heard of it). I am just totally amazed that the Feds have not all already resigned because of his "Scoop".

[Timberwolf]

Feel free to rebut, if you can. No sweat off my sack...

btw - Doc, is it possible to resize the US Mint site image? It wasn't that big in the article and I don't know how to do it.

[DoctorDoom]

Yep. TCO.

For the record:

http://www.halturnershow.com/20AmeroCoin.jpg

http://www.halturnershow.com/100AmeroCoin.jpg

http://www.halturnershow.com/PureSilver100AmeroCoin.jpg

Worth considering: the best way to introduce an unpopular idea without resistance is to start by treating it as a wild-eyed conspiracy.

[Timberwolf]

Thanks, Doc...yer Aces! :thumb:

[Naturalized-Texan]

This has to be one of the most ridiculous "articles" I've ever seen. For kooks only.
I agree completely. It is nothing more than a KOOK conspiracy theory. Why anyone believes that kookery is beyond belief.
This is nothing but :bsflag: and this thread belongs in the Conspiracy Corner, or better yet, in the trash can.

[gnome]

He says he has one. If one reads the "snopes" story there are "Amero" coins, nobody is disputing that, but they are completely unofficial and speculative, made by a private mint for interested collectors.

[DesertFox]

Baloney. Bullshit. Foolishness. Malarkey. If this really were real, Hal Turner would long ago have been deadass.

[Naturalized-Texan]

The Non-Existent North American Union (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2007/09/14/the_non-existent_north_american_union)
by John Hawkins

* The Security and Prosperity Partnership is not based on the "Building A North American Community" report and it implicitly and publicly denies that it’s working on an amero or a North American Union (http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2007_01_07.PHP#007134). It's worth noting that the conspiracy theorists have never put forth any real evidence that the SPP is working on the NAU. It's just an assertion they've made without providing anything of substance to back it up.

* As to NASCO, it promotes business up and down a certain stretch of highway. It’s not a government entity, it doesn’t work for George Bush, it doesn’t "set transportation policy, build highways, or set up customs facilities (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=93d16f0b-0327-4dd3-9998-056804e7727d&k=30152)," and it wasn’t formed to create any sort of North American Union.

* The idea of a combined currency, an amero, has been floating around since at least 1999. However, there is no evidence that the federal government is working on merging our currency with that of any other nation. Even if the federal government were inclined to do so, it would take a constitutional amendment to pull it off per Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which gives Congress the power, "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measure."

The only way another nation could be allowed to coin our money or regulate it, which is something that surely would have to happen with an amero, would be if we had a constitutional amendment. Given the unpopularity of that sort of maneuver, the chances of its occurring are as close to zero as it gets.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Amero Uproar (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp)

Claim: The US Mint has been producing the "Amero," a coin to be used by a union of the USA, Canada, and Mexico.

Status: False.

snopes.com specifically references Hal Turner's claim that was posted in the post that started this thread and then thoroughly debunks it. For example, the private company that produced those "Ameros" that Doc posted, Designs Computed (http://www.designscomputed.com/), "is very clear on its web site that its Ameros (http://www.designscomputed.com/coins/amero.html) are in fact, 'private issue fantasy coins [that] will be struck as an annual series,' and is indeed offering some of them for sale (http://www.dc-coin.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=8)."

Bottom line: Hal Turner is a bald-faced liar.

[ThomasMore]

Come on, guys. Get real.

Unless

#1. They are being minted by any official US, Canadian or other north american government mint.

#2. They are being minted in any quantity practical for use.

and

#3. They are legal tender in SOME nation, somewhere in the world.

They are as queer as a

http://www.siskiyous.edu/staff/haugend/Images/3bill.jpg

(By the way, are we going back to .999 silver coins?)

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:moo: Of course it's not true. I'm still waiting for my Hawaii quarters.

[DoctorDoom]

Never say that it will never happen. The NAU is as inevitable as the EU was. It's not a question of "if", just of "when". And a common currency will come with the package, as the Euro has in Europe. Whether it's the Amero remains to be seen, but it's coming. And it won't be by stealth.

[gnome]

I've often suspected that if the NAU ever comes to be, it would be less like the US joining a three-nation unification, and more like the US annexing both countries. in effect, if not in fact.

[nene]

Once upon a time, there used to be a country called the United States of America ...You have only to open your eyes. She's out there, always been. Except maybe for those that are blinded by there fixation on everything that is wrong.

[ThomasMore]

Never say that it will never happen.

I haven't, and wouldn't say that it won't happen. It is important to remain vigilant to incremental losses of sovereignty. For just one example, groups such as La Raza and especially MEChA are now directly attacking the idea of US sovereignty over our own territory.

La Raza ("the race") opposes RealID (http://www.nclr.org/content/policy/detail/29762/), which would require states to confirm that drivers licenses are given only to lawful residents of the US.

La Raza is also fighting to have taxpayers provide to children of illegal aliens in-state university tuitions: the "DREAM Act." (http://www.nclr.org/content/policy/detail/1331/)

<img src="http://www.aztlan.net/newaztlan.gif" width="600" height="461" />

MEChA official website (http://www.nationalmecha.org/about.html).

MEChA's philosophy (http://www.nationalmecha.org/philosophy.html):

Chicanas/Chicanos demanded to be treated as equals and denounced acculturation and assimilation....M.E.Ch.A. was founded on the principles of self-determination for the liberation of our people.

...

A synopsis of El Plan stipulates: 1) We are Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlán reclaiming the land of our birth (Chicana/Chicano Nation); 2) Aztlán belongs to indigenous people, who are sovereign and not subject to a foreign culture; 3) We are a union of free pueblos forming a bronze (Chicana/Chicano) Nation; 4) Chicano nationalism, as the key to mobilization and organization, is the common denominator to bring consensus to the Chicana/Chicano Movement; 5) Cultural values strengthen our identity as La Familia de La Raza; and 6) EPA, as a basic plan of Chicana/Chicano liberation, sought the formation of an independent national political party that would represent the sentiments of the Chicana/Chicano community.

...

New repressive and racist immigration laws are continuously directed at our Gente.

...

As Mechistas, we proclaim that we are the people of Aztlán and that we recognize our indigenous unity with our brothers and sisters of Ixachitzlan (Alaska to Tierra del Fuego). We declare that we are the descendants of El Quinto Sol.

In 1998, Mexico enacted a dual-nationality law permitting US citizens to become citizens of Mexico, too. MEChA tells people how to take advantage of this. (http://www.aztlan.net/dualcit.htm)


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And a common currency will come with the package, as the Euro has in Europe.

The US Dollar is already an internationally-accepted medium of exchange, although its star has been falling in recent years. In the late 1980's, Argentina briefly considered not only pegging its currency to the Dollar, but going further and using the US Dollar as its domestic currency.

If some form of north american union were to come about, no new currency would have to be used: just apply the Dollar to both Canada and Mexico. However, if the Dollar continues to weaken and some form of supranational government is formed, it is possible that a new currency would emerge.

[Maggie_T]

You have only to open your eyes. She's out there, always been. Except maybe for those that are blinded by there fixation on everything that is wrong.


Oh, really? This from the person who'd rather see his/her culture go down the drain, and his/her country taken over by illiterate illegal immigrants than erect a wall on the border because he/she is afraid of "how the world would perceive us" if we did?

*S N O R T* :rolleyes:

[Timberwolf]

Amero Uproar (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp)



snopes.com specifically references Hal Turner's claim that was posted in the post that started this thread and then thoroughly debunks it. For example, the private company that produced those "Ameros" that Doc posted, Designs Computed (http://www.designscomputed.com/), "is very clear on its web site that its Ameros (http://www.designscomputed.com/coins/amero.html) are in fact, 'private issue fantasy coins [that] will be struck as an annual series,' and is indeed offering some of them for sale (http://www.dc-coin.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=8)."

Bottom line: Hal Turner is a bald-faced liar.
Citing leftie sites when it suits you? LOL

Hopefully, you'll never have to eat those words...but, I'll bet you think the Patriot Act was put together in the weeks following 9/11, too. Got news for ya...the PA was ready to go, collecting dust on a shelf somewhere in DC. It was ready to be implemented immediately following some "catastrophic" event...my, wasn't that convenient...

Anyone who doesn't believe it's (NAU) gonna happen has their head in the sand. It IS coming. Like Doc said, ain't a matter of "if", but of "when".

Gosh, all of a sudden our dollar is ON PAR with the Canadian dollar...wonder how the PTB plan on getting the peso up there....hmmmmm....

[Naturalized-Texan]

Now that Hal Turner has been exposed as a bald-faced liar and a fraud with the overwhelming evidence I posted from reliable sources, why is this thread still open? This thread should be closed and relegated to the trash bin.

However, the good news is that we have been able to see how nutty conspiracy theories get started:

Some nut totally fabricates out of whole cloth a story that seems to have some semblance of plausibility that preys on the fears, real or imagined, of people who are receptive to that fabrication. Those people, in turn, spread that fabrication (read: lie) claiming that it is the absolute truth and soon it becomes accepted as a real conspiracy. Then when overwhelming proof that the fabrication is a bald-faced lie and a fraud is presented, the believers of that fabrication merely attack the source.

Josef Goebbels would be proud of how well Hal Turner has perfected his Big Lie Propaganda technique.

[dPrasse]

They are as queer as a

http://www.siskiyous.edu/staff/haugend/Images/3bill.jpg



These aren't valid ?

A customer paid me with a whole stack of these ... bummer :lol:

[Rhino]

Citing leftie sites when it suits you?How about right wing?

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/halturneramerocoins07sep07.shtml

http://www.cindysbeentrippin.com/blog/?p=106

Then again, Turner must be right. How could any man who has the power to create earthquakes be wrong?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=685_1187317721

[Naturalized-Texan]

So, Hal Turner is not only a liar and a fraud, be he may also may be guilty of having illegally published pictures of coins that were designed and produced for sale by a private businessman.

EDIT: BTW, I also used a right-wing site in my post #15: The Non-Existent North American Union (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2007/09/14/the_non-existent_north_american_union) by John Hawkins, a professional blogger who runs Conservative Grapevine (http://www.conservativegrapevine.com/) and Right Wing News (http://rightwingnews.com/).