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HomeschoolrsRUs
10-08-2007, 10:30 PM
She said she is against Giuliani, McCain and Thompson. Her choices: Romney or Hunter.

She said she doesn't care if Romney is a flip-flopper as long as he flops in her direction (her words, not mine, :) ). She also made the statement, something to the effect of, why can't we all get behind the candidates that are viable. Sorry, but I absolutely DISAGREE that Romney is anywhere NEAR viable. Someone who changes his spots whichever way the wind is blowing is not someone who engenders thoughts and feelgings of trust in the voting citizenry.


I'd like to find out why she is so adamantly against Fred. Okay, Sean asked her why she doesn't like Thompson.

She answered because Fred was against tort reform, against removing Bill Clinton, against the marriage amendment. Huh? Guess we won't find out the REAL reason why she's against Fred.

I think Ann has left the camp in an alien spacecraft if she truly believes (as she said) that it's going to come down to Giuliani & Romney.

DeclinetoState
10-08-2007, 10:35 PM
It might be because he supported McCain-Feingold. Of course, that dubiously constitutional law backfired on the Democrats to some extent in '04.

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-08-2007, 11:05 PM
It might be because he supported McCain-Feingold. Of course, that dubiously constitutional law backfired on the Democrats to some extent in '04.

But if that's the case, her dislike of him won't hold up because she said she doesn't mind flip-flopping as long as the candidate flops in her direction. Thompson has expressed that if he knew then what he knew now he would have handled it differently. Besides, McCain-Fiengold was so agregious, if THAT were her reason, considering how outspoken she is, why wouldn't she just own up to that as the first of the many reasons why she opposes him (Fred Thompson).

Jester21
10-09-2007, 12:08 AM
What's her problem with Thompson? I even like him. Giuliani, meh, but I don't hate the guy. Hunter isn't even remotely viable.

Seems to me she shouldn't be focussing on who's 'viable' to the Republican primary voters, she should be focussing on who's viable to the rest of the country. It won't do any good to nominate someone who's going to get killed in the general.

ThomasMore
10-09-2007, 12:14 AM
Sean asked her why she doesn't like Thompson.

She answered because Fred was against tort reform, against removing Bill Clinton, against the marriage amendment.It might be because he supported McCain-Feingold. Of course, that dubiously constitutional law backfired on the Democrats to some extent in '04.

Huh? Guess we won't find out the REAL reason why she's against Fred.

You can also add the campaign finance hearings that he chaired in 1997 -- as Chairman, his responsibility was to control the hearings. He let the Democrats run roughshod over him, and they turned the hearings into a circus, against the Republicans.

I know that this is an unpopular view here, but even setting aside the increasing clamor of conservative pundits, I am watching Fred's performance with more and more of a gimlet eye.

I really hope he lives up to the hype we are all giving him.

ThomasMore
10-09-2007, 02:39 AM
Besides, McCain-Feingold was so egregious, if THAT were her reason, considering how outspoken she is, why wouldn't she just own up to that as the first of the many reasons why she opposes him (Fred Thompson).

If my recollection serves, she did mention it tonight.

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-09-2007, 07:01 AM
If my recollection serves, she did mention it tonight.

I didn't hear it, Thomas. I vaguely remember Sean bringing it up quickly, but only inside a longer statement, and then she never picked up on that part of the sentence. But like you, my recollection might me off -- tainted by the part of me that was miffed when she brushed FT off when Hannity brought him up.

Even if you ad M-F to the mix of her "dislike," none of that adds up to more things to be concerned about than that of Romney's flip-flopping, and the things Doc has brought up about his history in Mass. Honestly, I don't see how she could pick him over Fred, I really don't.


But I have to add, I was flipping (not flip-flopping, :smirky:) the channels last night while posting and caught Fred on CSPAN2 at some AmericanVision (or American something, I can't remember) conference. He sounded good! Just after, though, was Huckabee, and I have to admit, he sounded GREAT! I like this guy more and more I hear him. Between Huckabee, Hunter, and Tancredo, we really are relegating the most Conservative candidates to the leftovers pile. I pray one of these guys becomes the VP of our nominee.

Wish I could find the transcript of Huckabee's 7 min speech. It was the bomb!

Jack_Savage
10-09-2007, 08:06 AM
She is against his position on marriage. His allowing states to define it. She wants it a federal law.

Suzie
10-09-2007, 08:26 AM
But if that's the case, her dislike of him won't hold up because she said she doesn't mind flip-flopping as long as the candidate flops in her direction. Thompson has expressed that if he knew then what he knew now he would have handled it differently. Besides, McCain-Fiengold was so agregious, if THAT were her reason, considering how outspoken she is, why wouldn't she just own up to that as the first of the many reasons why she opposes him (Fred Thompson).
She probably doesn't want anyone who might beat Hillary. Did you see her on Cavuto yesterday? She must have been hanging out at FOX all day waiting for a camera she can jump in front of. Wonder where her buddy Al was? Usually they both are there in case Paris Hilton gets arrested again or something so they can be there to jump in and say something on air. Cavuto came right out and said "it will be better for your career if Hillary wins" and she didn't dispute it. Cavuto has caught on to what makes her tick MONEY. Even her most serious boyfriend from the porn peddling family seemed to figure that out. And I don't know why anyone would trust what she writes when she dates Bill Maher and Geraldo. Of course she never makes it to family marriage and children. She has never lived what she sells, why should this be any different? She knows what she can sell, plain and simple. It doesn't matter whether she believes it or not, she just hopes those who lap it up will follow it enough to help her make a buck.

Naturalized-Texan
10-09-2007, 08:36 AM
I'd like to find out why she is so adamantly against Fred. Okay, Sean asked her why she doesn't like Thompson.

She answered because Fred was against tort reform, against removing Bill Clinton, against the marriage amendment. Huh? Guess we won't find out the REAL reason why she's against Fred.
However, Fred DID vote to remove BJ Clinton from office. I don't know about those other issues.

The_Elucidator
10-09-2007, 08:57 AM
Sis - I think you may be missing the point with Annie. From reading her books, watching her on TV and listening to her on the Radio, I have recognized her as a definite Type A personality who demands that men over her be a strong Alpha Male. Rudy and Mitt have been willing to start getting aggressive with both each other and with Hitlery. If FDT wants to start getting support from her, he needs to come out of this debate tonight SWINGING! He is being viewed as being a little aloof, clumsy and downright lazy. You only get one chance to make that first impression and if he doesn't do it tonight in his first debate; IMHO he will not recover. Then I'm gonna really be pissed!

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-09-2007, 09:28 AM
Sis - I think you may be missing the point with Annie. From reading her books, watching her on TV and listening to her on the Radio, I have recognized her as a definite Type A personality who demands that men over her be a strong Alpha Male. Rudy and Mitt have been willing to start getting aggressive with both each other and with Hitlery. If FDT wants to start getting support from her, he needs to come out of this debate tonight SWINGING! He is being viewed as being a little aloof, clumsy and downright lazy. You only get one chance to make that first impression and if he doesn't do it tonight in his first debate; IMHO he will not recover. Then I'm gonna really be pissed!

You 'n' me both, brudder. Mainly because it will then put me at odds with all my friends here at FC, and y'all will begin preaching Rudy or Romney to me, (whichever wins the nomination) :evilgrin: .

Speaking of coming out swinging, though, did you see Fred's debate video clip I posted elsewhere. It was from an old debate before his Senate office. Looks like he knows how to swing, at least, :smirky:

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51564

ThomasMore
10-09-2007, 09:36 AM
However, Fred DID vote to remove BJ Clinton from office. I don't know about those other issues.

I will have to go back and look it up. I thought he voted against conviction, but I am probably wrong.

I didn't hear it, Thomas. I vaguely remember Sean bringing it up quickly, but only inside a longer statement, and then she never picked up on that part of the sentence.

Even if you ad M-F to the mix of her "dislike," none of that adds up to more things to be concerned about than that of Romney's flip-flopping, and the things Doc has brought up about his history in Mass. Honestly, I don't see how she could pick him over Fred, I really don't.

I caught Fred on CSPAN2 at some AmericanVision (or American something, I can't remember) conference. He sounded good!

I might be remembering it wrong, too...could have been Sean Hannity's comment that I associated with Ann.

I agree that Romney's "flexibility" on the issues is a big problem, and I have a strong preference for Fred above Romney. I believe he is conservative, but a bit too apt to go-along to get-along. In this regard, he reminds me too much of GWB's "compassionate conservatism," which gave in to the Dems far too often. While he is certainly not my first choice, if the general election results in a Romney v. Clinton matchup, I would vote for Romney.

Ronald Reagan once said of the Democratic Party that he didn't leave it; it left him. Particularly after the last Republican Congress's performance, if the Republicans present Giuliani as their nominee, I might have to say the same thing about the Republican Party.

Sis - I think you may be missing the point with Annie. From reading her books, watching her on TV and listening to her on the Radio, I have recognized her as a definite Type A personality who demands that men over her be a strong Alpha Male. Rudy and Mitt have been willing to start getting aggressive with both each other and with Hitlery. If FDT wants to start getting support from her, he needs to come out of this debate tonight SWINGING!

That makes sense to me, and has been much of the source of the criticisms against Fred.

He is being viewed as being a little aloof, clumsy and downright lazy.A little clumsy I can tolerate -- it is early in his campaign. But my own view of his apparent aloofness has me seriously concerned. This is going to be a battle royal, not a coronation. I'd hate to have Fred collect the grassroots' support and energies, and then squander them. I want to see Fred get serious.

Just after, though, was Huckabee, and I have to admit, he sounded GREAT! I like this guy more and more I hear him. Between Huckabee, Hunter, and Tancredo, we really are relegating the most Conservative candidates to the leftovers pile. I pray one of these guys becomes the VP of our nominee.

Wish I could find the transcript of Huckabee's 7 min speech. It was the bomb!I really like Huckabee. He is right down the middle on conservative principles, he has experience governing, and I believe he will stick to his principles.

He is currently polling highest of the second tier (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/charts/?poll_id=192), with about 5-6% of the vote, behind Romney's 9-11%. In Iowa (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071007/NEWS09/71005048/1001), he is #3, effectively tied with Giuliani and ahead of McCain. While he hasn't broken out of the second tier yet, he is in a position where he might do so.

The way things are running, unless Huck breaks into the first rank and looks electable before the Illinois primary, I will vote for Fred, but with serious concerns.

The_Elucidator
10-09-2007, 09:36 AM
You 'n' me both, brudder. Mainly because it will then put me at odds with all my friends here at FC, and y'all will begin preaching Rudy or Romney to me, (whichever wins the nomination) :evilgrin: .

Speaking of coming out swinging, though, did you see Fred's debate video clip I posted elsewhere. It was from an old debate before his Senate office. Looks like he knows how to swing, at least, :smirky:

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51564

I don't expect him to deliver any knock out blows but I do hope he can throw some body blows Hitlery's way. He needs to start laying out his policy plans.

Naturalized-Texan
10-09-2007, 11:15 AM
I will have to go back and look it up. I thought he voted against conviction, but I am probably wrong.
I did look it up. He voted for conviction on one count (I don't remember for sure which one, but I think it was the obstruction of justice count), but not on the others.

Suzie
10-09-2007, 11:36 AM
I did look it up. He voted for conviction on one count (I don't remember for sure which one, but I think it was the obstruction of justice count), but not on the others.

You are right. She is lying just to smear him. He has explained why he voted for one but not the other, but she never addresses that when speaking about him. Talk about slander.

Read here if you like. http://www.australianpolitics.com/usa/clinton/trial/statements/thompson.shtml

Maggie_T
10-09-2007, 05:09 PM
And I don't know why anyone would trust what she writes when she dates Bill Maher and Geraldo.

I don't think it's fair to judge someone because at some point in their lives they dated jerks. Mary Matalin married Golum's twin, the uber liberal.

The important thing is that she obviously didn't take either of them seriously.

Of course she never makes it to family marriage and children.

With those two? Who would!

Suzie
10-09-2007, 05:19 PM
Because she has dated the very people she supposedly bashes in all her books. Every one is so ga ga over her liberal bashing tongue and she lays down with them, so she's getting up with fleas. And according to what she said in Time magazine, the heir to the penthouse porn fortune is the one she came the closest to marrying. Even Matlin's scum bag isn't making money distributing pornography. But hey, he sure does have the $$$$ from the purvey of filth, it has been said he dumped her ... if that's true, and I do not know that it is she would have taken the marriage step then. Big bucks there baby, but slime for a husband.

Maggie_T
10-09-2007, 05:26 PM
Yikes. Suze, you sure remind me of Ann. You use the same venom talking of her as she uses when she talks of liberals.

http://foolstown.com/sm/str.gif Wait! I meant that as a compliment. http://foolstown.com/sm/str.gif

Suzie
10-09-2007, 05:29 PM
I am just giving the facts. If you want I can think of a childish name to call her then it might be even. I have never heard of her ever dating a conservative. Have you?

Maggie_T
10-09-2007, 05:45 PM
I really don't think it's any of my business who she dates. But have it your way. Obviously, we'll never agree on this. :rolleyes:

Jester21
10-09-2007, 11:36 PM
I didn't know she dated Maher. Can you imagine what the dinner conversation would be like?

Naturalized-Texan
10-10-2007, 09:30 AM
Ann Coulter is great and her books are also great. I am looking forward to reading her new book the title of which perfectly describes Democrats: If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans.

Maggie_T
10-10-2007, 11:11 AM
Me, too, N-T.

And for all we know, she might date liberals for research purposes only. I mean, the "relationships" ended in nothing, didn't they? ;)

Suzie
10-10-2007, 11:30 AM
“Ann wasn’t always the strident, hate-filled creature she is today,” Gooch laments, ruefully adding that his tombstone will likely read HAD A WEAKNESS FOR TALL BLONDES. He knew the relationship was doomed when the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. “It’s the middle of the night, we’re in bed, and the phone rings. Ann is jumping up and down, yelling gleefully, ‘We did it, we did it!’ The next morning she’s got three separate televisions going so she can watch all the coverage at once. It was appalling. Poor Ann. It is always sad when the persona eats the person.” For her part, Coulter denies ever being “arm candy for Bob Guccione Jr. The Gooch was my arm candy—my boy toy whom I regretfully had to replace with a much younger man.”
Link (http://nymag.com/news/media/17209/index1.html)

I guess if you just want to jump from bed to bed to get your story that is desirable. But not for me.

Maggie_T
10-10-2007, 11:43 AM
Well, I suppose if it's a matter of bashing someone you abhor, even someone like Bob Guccione (Bob Guccione, for crying out loud) spewing in a New York magazine (or whatever) becomes reliable and worthy of being taken seriously.

Honestly, Suze. I expected more of you. :rolleyes:

This discussion is over, as far as I'm concerned.

Suzie
10-10-2007, 11:45 AM
arm candy for Bob Guccione Jr. The Gooch was my arm candy—my boy toy whom I regretfully had to replace with a much younger manAnn said that, it's a quote from her. I heard her say it in a TV interview. I expected more from HER. I used to like her till I found out how she lives her life then tries to sell everyone something different.