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Patriot Heart
10-09-2007, 10:27 PM
There is simply no end to the stupidity in Washington. They have an endless capacity for it. From an email.


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Contact your congressman and senators today!
Dear Julie/Bill,
According to U.S. Representative Marilyn Musgrave, our nation’s legislators are now prohibited from using references to God in certificates of authenticity accompanying flags flown over the Capitol and bought by constituents. Such references include: "under God" in the pledge, "God bless you," or "in the year of our Lord, 2007." Never before has this official prohibition been leveled.
Architect of the Capitol Steven Ayers said he has removed the words because reference to God and the Lord may offend some Americans. He now prohibits them from being placed on official documents such as flag certificates.
Musgrave was astonished when she flew a flag over the U.S. Capitol building as a tribute to a senior citizen, and the accompanying certificate she received was edited with all religious references removed.
The congresswoman was more astounded when, upon further investigation, she discovered the certificate was censored by order of The Architect of the Capitol, an unelected very low-level official who manages the flag office.
Responding to a request for a flag flown over the United States Capitol in honor of a World War II veteran's 81st birthday, the congresswoman ordered the flag and a certificate to state: "This flag was flown for Mr. John Doe on the occasion of his 81st birthday, the eleventh day of July, in the year of our Lord, 2007. Thank you, Grandpa, for showing me what it is to be a true patriot -- to love God, family, and country. We love you!"
When the flag and certificate came back from the flag office, each reference to the Lord and God were removed. A group of lawmakers confronted architect Stephen Ayers seeking to find where he had the authority to restrict their freedom of speech and religious expression. Ayers refused to give the lawmakers a clear justification of his authority to delete the religious references. For more information: Capitol flag policy assailed (http://outbound.afa.net/track?type=click&mailingid=capwiz_100907&messageid=capwiz_100907&databaseid=1234&serial=1181233653&emailid=okwilk213@itlnet.net&userid=815633&extra=&&&100&&&http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071006/NATION/110060042/1002&template=printart) (Washington Times).
Take Action! Forward this to your family and friends.
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HomeschoolrsRUs
10-09-2007, 10:30 PM
Saw the interview, on Glenn Beck, with the young man, Eagle Scout, who asked for the certificate and did not receive what he requested. Unbelievable!

Wolfcounsel
10-09-2007, 10:37 PM
If this is true, and if we turn candy assed, then we Americans deserve to take it up the yin yang from this sick SOB "architect"! I would tell him to go choke a chicken and go to Hell!

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-09-2007, 10:40 PM
Wolfie, it's true. I saw the Eagle Scout on Genn Beck tonight explaining what happened.

Wolfcounsel
10-09-2007, 10:46 PM
It's settled then. Let's tell this sick bastard to stop disturbing Americans.

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-10-2007, 09:24 AM
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/10/pelosi_defends_refusal_to_put.html

Pelosi defends refusal to put "God" on flag certificates

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today defended the Architect of the Capitol's refusal to permit use of the word "God" on official certificates enclosed with flags flown over the U.S. Capitol.

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Asked about the issue today at a press luncheon, Pelosi said the architect's policy was adopted because "people were asking for statements that not only were religious, beyond using the word God, but political as well."

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"It's not about being anti-religion," Pelosi said, noting that each day in the Capitol starts with a prayer. "It is just about what the architect thought was appropriate for him to proclaim in a certificate."

Maggie_T
10-10-2007, 11:06 AM
"Pelosi defends ..."

Now THERE'S a big fat surprise! :rolleyes:

This Godphobia is really getting old. I say enough already. :flame:

Maggie_T
10-10-2007, 11:08 AM
Architect of the Capitol Steven Ayers said he has removed the words because reference to God and the Lord may offend some Americans.

Oh, really, "Tolerant One"? And what about those of us who are offended by the shennanigans of atheist bastards like you? :flame:

Patriot Heart
10-10-2007, 05:52 PM
The certificate is for the person recieving it, not the whole friggin' world! Why the hell does it matter if it offends someone?

d'urville
10-11-2007, 03:56 PM
This "architect of the Capitol" is just an acting one, and again, they're backing off due to public outcry:


On Thursday, Ayers said after reviewing the rules, he concluded that they were inconsistently applied and should be changed.

"I have directed that the policy be changed and that new guidelines be reissued immediately,” he said. “I appreciate the Congress bringing this important issue to my attention, and I appreciate their support as we worked to resolve this situation to everyone’s satisfaction,” said Ayers.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301185,00.html

Good job, she'll never learn.

Venus de Smilo
10-11-2007, 04:03 PM
This isn't going to stand.