Vicente Fox reveals deal with Bush on currency

[omegatrump]

Oh, no, this can't be. The Bush bots will have to do some more cussin.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58052

[Patriot Heart]

I was able to hear Jerome Corsi speak at a conference on American Sovereignty in Tulsa a week ago. Say what you will about World Net Daily, he is a patriot and very articulate.... Sadly if appears more and more that the real FOX is in the White House.

[Wolfcounsel]

",,,Sadly if appears more and more that the real FOX is in the White House." --Patriot Heart

That's not a fox. It's a stinking skunk! I hope he disappears into the ANALS of history! Along with the socialist elite SOB Fox! Damn their globalist bullshit to Hell!<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Beowulf]

Somehow, this figures! We've heard talk about "an American Union" before and this just adds to it. I don't want to be "with" everyone else!
W, get off of your globalism horse!

[Maggie_T]

I was able to hear Jerome Corsi speak at a conference on American Sovereignty in Tulsa a week ago. Say what you will about World Net Daily, he is a patriot and very articulate....

I agree. And there's nothing wrong with WND. I suscribe to their related magazine Whistleblower and find it very interesting. And no, please don't come to me with any "you're a conspiracy nut" nonsense.

Sadly if appears more and more that the real FOX is in the White House.

Looks like it, doesn't it. :(

[Seabee]

Hmm, inflation yearly 3%, but wait you only have to worry about 5% for more than 3 quarters. Forget the fact that the average is chipping away and wages are only matching up half of a percentile point per year. Wait,let's not forget almost 50% decrease in the dollar since the mid eighties. All of these are great recipe for delivering this B.S. to the American people. Merging of 3 economies, a monetary currency with more strength than the pathetic American dollar, plus the almost endless supply of illegal immigrant workforce. Wow, can you say buh-bye to American soverignty and hello to Jose?

[Naturalized-Texan]

Vicente Fox reveals deal with Bush on currency
Complete and utter nonsense.

The Non-Existent North American Union (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2007/09/14/the_non-existent_north_american_union)

"I love (the North American Union theory) because if you ever doubt your own sanity, all you have to do is read this stuff and realize that you're okay." -- Charles Krauthammer (http://www.rightwingnews.com/category.php?ent=9364)

"You lay out a conspiracy and then force some people to try to prove it doesn't exist. That's just the way some people operate." -- George Bush (http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/08/the_north_american_union_consp.php) on the North American Union

"But aside from the chilling prospect of a ‘Monster Highway’ (Why is a new road in Texas supposed to be so scary?) there’s no reason at all to believe in the ludicrous, childish, ill-informed, manipulative, brain dead fantasies about a North American Union." -- Michael Medved (http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/b4119746-9434-4f7b-a4fe-7caa91fee062)

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* The idea of a combined currency, an amero, has been floating around since at least 1999. However, there is no evidence that the federal government is working on merging our currency with that of any other nation. Even if the federal government were inclined to do so, it would take a constitutional amendment to pull it off per Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which gives Congress the power, "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measure."

The only way another nation could be allowed to coin our money or regulate it, which is something that surely would have to happen with an amero, would be if we had a constitutional amendment. Given the unpopularity of that sort of maneuver, the chances of its occurring are as close to zero as it gets.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Whatever you say, NT.

But Vicente Fox DID say it on CNN's Larry King Live. Check the transcript, and/or watch for yourself:


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[EveningStar]

Complete and utter nonsense.
Yep. I don't know how I missed this. Another Jerome Corsi article at WingNutDaily. :crazy:

[Naturalized-Texan]

Whatever you say, NT.

But Vicente Fox DID say it on CNN's Larry King Live. Check the transcript, and/or watch for yourself:
That doesn't mean that it's true. Please note, I never said that Fox didn't say it. The claim that Fox has a deal with Bush on currency is what is complete and utter nonsense, i.e., Fox is lying.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

That doesn't mean that it's true. Please note, I never said that Fox didn't say it. The claim that Fox has a deal with Bush on currency is what is complete and utter nonsense, i.e., Fox is lying.

Whatever you say.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Whatever you say.
On another thread that is now in the Twilight Zone, I proved conclusively that the so-called common currency - the "Amero" - is nothing more than a nutty conspiracy theory, i.e., it's all nonsense. Moreover, it can't happen without an amendment to the Constitution and you know as well as I do that that won't happen.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

On another thread that is now in the Twilight Zone, I proved conclusively that the so-called common currency - the "Amero" - is nothing more than a nutty conspiracy theory, i.e., it's all nonsense. Moreover, it can't happen without an amendment to the Constitution and you know as well as I do that that won't happen.

Whatever you say, NT.

[Beowulf]

NT, with all the pandering Bush has done to Mexico and continues to do, I can't disbelieve what I hear about the Amero.
Bush wants blanket amnesty for 15 million illegals, approves only 800 miles of fence at the border and even wants a condemned killer of Mexican descent to be spared the death penalty.

Really, NT, you don't have to defend W on every issue to toe the party line. He is wrong about things and his dealings with Mexico are the biggest of them.

[Venus de Smilo]

Some people will believe anything. Corsi may believe what he's saying, but the person who posted this is just trying to yank our chain.

Just because Bush has cozied up to Mehico in some respects doesn't mean he's in cahoots to form a NA Union with them. You guys are taking one fact, joining it with another, and then reaching a conclusion that doesn't logically follow.

[Seabee]

This is not an impossibility, the creation of a North American Union as a political enitity is. The merger of the American dollar with the Canadian Loone and the Mexican Peso is more than a conspiracy theory. With the advent of the increasing trade deficet, a few critics believe that the U.S. may be the greatest threat to the economic order. Yet the deficits have neither impaired the U.S. dollar nor undermined the position of the United States as the primary economic power. Many "experts", therefore, question and disclaim the dangers of American balance-of-payments deficits. But corrections are unavoidable. Raising the question of Americas ability to meet its obligations. If there ever should be any doubt about the stability of the American economy, the worldwide demand for U.S. dollars would decline, causing the dollar exchange rate to plummet. If this happens there would need to be a Bretton Woods 2, which would call for the international community to support the U.S. dollar. Since, this more than likely will not happen what is our option? Merger with 2 other currencies? As far as the constitutionality, I do not think that would be as big of a problem as you might think. The United States would have to be the primary manager of the currency therefore making it more of a probable scenario. Thanks to Washington, the Constitution, like the dollar, has devalued. What is it truly worth these days?

[Naturalized-Texan]

Some people will believe anything. Corsi may believe what he's saying, but the person who posted this is just trying to yank our chain.

Just because Bush has cozied up to Mehico in some respects doesn't mean he's in cahoots to form a NA Union with them. You guys are taking one fact, joining it with another, and then reaching a conclusion that doesn't logically follow.
That's typical of omegatrump. He/she does that all the time. That's why so many here just scroll past his/her posts.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Until a couple of years ago I had bookmarked World Net Daily as one of my credible sources. About that time I realized that it was a purveyor of nutty conspiracy theories as wacky as any of those from the John Birch Society. World Net Daily has been deleted from my list of credible sources and this thread shows that my decision was thoroughly justified.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Why isn't this thread in the Twilight Zone with all the other nutty conspiracy theories?

[EveningStar]

Corsi may believe what he's saying
Whether he does or not, whenever I see an article by him, I start rolling my eyes and cracking up.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Whether he does or not, whenever I see an article by him, I start rolling my eyes and cracking up.
Yep!

[EveningStar]

Whatever you say, NT.

Whatever you say.

Whatever you say, NT.

I'm dying here, Homes. :rotflmbo::rotflmbo:

[Lubbock]

The Hate Bushers need to get their heards out of their butts and start living in the real world.

Either that or just go on over to DailyKooks or Moron.Org and start posting there.

The Hate Bushers have just about turned this place into a reasonable facsimile of the Twilight Zone.

[EveningStar]

Yep!
He's apparently a member of the Constimatooshin Party and that says a lot right there.

Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi)

He has also posted at Free Republic: jrlc (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=68645)

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I'm dying here, Homes. :rotflmbo::rotflmbo:

Why?

[Naturalized-Texan]

Why?
Probably because you're repeating yourself and she's getting bored.

[EveningStar]

Probably because you're repeating yourself and she's getting bored.
I'm a he. And I'm not bored. :biggrin:

[Naturalized-Texan]

I'm a he. And I'm not bored. :biggrin:
I thought that was Maggie who wrote that. Sorry.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Probably because you're repeating yourself and (s)he's getting bored.

Is there a rule against repeating one's self? Y'all don't like my answers, don't read them. I'm entitled to my opinion, too. In addition, I don't make it a habit of making fun of or disparaging anyone with whom I disagree, and certainly not to the measure you and ES do, anyway. Again, you don't like what I say, you're free to ignore it, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon8.gif.

[EveningStar]

Why isn't this thread in the Twilight Zone with all the other nutty conspiracy theories?
I think you should move it there. :)

[EveningStar]

Is there a rule against repeating one's self? Y'all don't like my answers, don't read them. I'm entitled to my opinion, too. In addition, I don't make it a habit of making fun of or disparaging anyone with whom I disagree, and certainly not to the measure you and ES do, anyway. Again, you don't like what I say, you're free to ignore it, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon8.gif.
There's no rule against repeating oneself. If there was, I would be in big trouble.

I wasn't making fun of you. I was just getting a kick out of your spirit - which I admire you for. :)

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

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Why isn't this thread in the Twilight Zone with all the other nutty conspiracy theories?
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I think you should move it there. :)

Vicente Fox REALLY did say this. That part is NOT a "conspiracy theory". No one is being forced to believe it. With that in mind, I do not think this thread should be moved to the Conspiracy Forum. If nothing else, it should at least remain as is until Rhino returns and he makes the final judgement.
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[EveningStar]

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Why isn't this thread in the Twilight Zone with all the other nutty conspiracy theories?
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Vicente Fox REALLY did say this. That part is NOT a "conspiracy theory". No one is being forced to believe it. With that in mind, I do not think this thread should be moved to the Conspiracy Forum. If nothing else, it should at least remain as is until Rhino returns and he makes the final judgement.
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Fox said it was long term. And it could happen but it would be like the Euro and would have nothing to do with sovereignty.

Tying this into the ridiculous North American Union scenario is the conspiracy part.

[Naturalized-Texan]

I think you should move it there. :)
I would if I could. I can't so I won't.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Is there a rule against repeating one's self? Y'all don't like my answers, don't read them. I'm entitled to my opinion, too. In addition, I don't make it a habit of making fun of or disparaging anyone with whom I disagree, and certainly not to the measure you and ES do, anyway. Again, you don't like what I say, you're free to ignore it, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon8.gif.
When, pray tell, have I ever made fun of you?

[Naturalized-Texan]

Tying this into the ridiculous North American Union scenario is the conspiracy part.
Yep! And I still think that Vincente Fox lied.

[Naturalized-Texan]

I'm a he. And I'm not bored. :biggrin:
I have known that you are a he for close to 10 years now - since a few years before either of us came to FC. :biggrin:

[Seabee]

Folks this is a topic that is at worst fringe news, kind of fun to discuss and that is it. Debating whether this is conspiracy or not is foolishness. Do not pay this thread that much attention and move on.

[Beowulf]

Do not pay this thread that much attention and move on.
And never turn your back to your enemy either!

[Patriot Heart]

If for no other reason..I think it is believeable because of the way Bush continually and consistantly foot drags with regards to any meaningful border control. He must have a reason, whether long term or short term. He has NO serious interest whatsoever in following the will of the people. Thus, he must have a reason. What could it be, except his desire to increase/enlarge/improve relations of the short and long haul with his beloved Mexico? I would love to hear what other folks here think is behind his love affair.