It's Official: Smoking Banned in CA Apartments

[BabyBeastie]

The measure, which the City Council enacted Tuesday on a 3-2 vote, bans smoking in multiunit dwellings as well as in parks, outdoor restaurants and other public places. The apartment provision takes effect around New Year's 2009, while lighting up elsewhere is banned as soon as the law officially takes effect in about a month.

Hardly a loophole exists for Belmont denizens hooked on the weed. For example, the new law allows an actor to smoke onstage during the performance of a play - but only if smoking is an "integral part of the story."


SF Gate dot com (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/11/BAM2SNO3O.DTL)

[buckeyepete]

Ah, yes, and I'm sure they also banned the obnoxious smells from the ladies that bathe in perfume, the gentlemen that use after-shave rather than take a shower, and numerous other offenses to my nose that cause me discomfort. When my eyes start to water because of these obnoxious smells, I have a hard time breathing, I just remove myself from the area.

But, don't bring your sanctimonious ass into my house and try to press your beliefs on me. Each unit of a condo, Duplex or appartment is seperated by a firewall. If smoke from a cigarette gets to you, call OSHA or your local building inspector. And, please use a non-scented deoderant.


P.S. I quit smoking and drinking two weeks ago.

[Wolfcounsel]

"But, don't bring your sanctimonious ass into my house and try to press your beliefs on me." --buckeyepete

Any ANALs or other sissies who want to bring their sanctimonious asses into my house to tell me what I can and cannot do in there is going to have a difficult time explaining to the surgeons in the emergency room how they got a steel-toed shoe up their rectums. Don't believe me? Don't attempt to call my bluff.

[BabyBeastie]

I don't think it's out of line for a property owner to ask potential renters if they smoke or not and that they don't want to rent to smokers. I don't think they needed to make a law.

[Suzie]

I don't think it's out of line for a property owner to ask potential renters if they smoke or not and that they don't want to rent to smokers. I don't think they needed to make a law.

I agree. Anyone should be able to choose not to rent to someone no matter the reason. Unfortunately they already have the laws set up against them for that. Discrimination lawsuits start flying. There are more laws to force people to allow things they don't want than to protect them if it's their choice to keep out something they do not.

[Maggie_T]

It's Official: Smoking Banned in CA Apartments

Big Brother is watching out for you. :rolleyes:

Imagine if Hillary won the elections.

[BabyBeastie]

I agree. Anyone should be able to choose not to rent to someone no matter the reason. Unfortunately they already have the laws set up against them for that. Discrimination lawsuits start flying. There are more laws to force people to allow things they don't want than to protect them if it's their choice to keep out something they do not.Re: Lawsuits...Yeah, I thought about that, but I started thinking about that one apartment complex in (Texas) that discriminated against tattoos. Cigarette smoke and tatoos are not a race, national origin, sex, religion, sexual preference, etc. The language seems to indicate that they are discriminating against the smoke and not the smoker. They didn't say you couldn't buy cigs, just don't want the smoke. Just my :2cents:

[Suzie]

Re: Lawsuits...Yeah, I thought about that, but I started thinking about that one apartment complex in (Texas) that discriminated against tattoos. Cigarette smoke and tatoos are not a race, national origin, sex, religion, sexual preference, etc. The language seems to indicate that they are discriminating against the smoke and not the smoker. They didn't say you couldn't buy cigs, just don't want the smoke. Just my :2cents:

But in that you have the same problem restaurant owners faced if they didn't want people to smoke on their property. You can't do anything other than ask them not to and you have some who will do it just for spite. If they respected the owners wishes he wouldn't need a law. But if it's legal to smoke, they can't call the cops if someone won't respect their wishes. If people would respect other peoples property without laws wouldn't that be a wonderful thing. It's a shame people have to take it to the point where they make laws for or against.

[buckeyepete]

Suzie, dear, I love you dearly, but ya got this one wrong. If I were a resstraunt owner, and declared my establishment "smoke free", no-one person could demand to light up. You ccould throw their ass out in a heart beat.

[Suzie]

And they could sue you, if they aren't doing anything illegal. I think you SHOULD be able to throw their ass out. But some will be an ass about it including trying to sue you for it. They are throwing laws every which way right now when it comes to smoking, and it wouldn't happen if people respected others. There are too many @$$holes in this world with the "I am going to do it because I can" attitude and if you try to stop me I'll sue you.

[Maggie_T]

Suze is right. I hate to admit it. Not because she's right, you understand, but because what she says is right. Unfortunately, we live in a lawsuit-happy society. The John Edwards are out there just waiting for the chance to sue someone. Anyone. And for anything.

[Suzie]

And people want laws to protect their right to throw @$$holes out legally, it's an ugly cycle.

[The_Fireman]

[quote=Suzie;592348]And they could sue you, if they aren't doing anything illegal. I think you SHOULD be able to throw their ass out. But some will be an ass about it including trying to sue you for it. They are throwing laws every which way right now when it comes to smoking, and it wouldn't happen if people respected others. There are too many @$$holes in this world with the "I am going to do it because I can" attitude and if you try to stop me I'll sue you.[/quotWhile not quite the same thing as smoking,Texas has a conceled handgun law.A property owner can post his property off limits to hand guns but you are home free if you keep it out of sight.But,if some one happens to see it,the owner can ask you to leave and even though you are carrying legally,if you refuse the owners request to leave,you are guilty of criminal trespass.

[Jack_Savage]

Welcome to Hitlerys new "Village" Another ratification of that Nazi Priest Niemoller's warnings.

It is amazing how people don't see the hunger for power of these small minded people. Are we approching civil-war?

[DoctorDoom]

Let all the Mexifornians remember whenever crap like this is imposed on them that they elected the assholes who are micromanaging their lives.

Question: what are all the liberal social programs that spend cigarette tax money going to do when people quit the habit? Is there anyone naive enough to believe that the programs will be cut back or ended? If the smokers stop financing their touchy-feely bullshit, SOMEONE will take up the burden.

[RogerFGay]

California is too heavily influenced by Hollywood. "All the world is a stage and the people players" is such a serious philosophy that it's soon to become a place where real people leading real lives can no longer reside.