Ann Coulter's latest fiasco (multiple articles)

[EveningStar]

She's promoting her latest book and wants some controversy.

Appearing on Donny Deutsch's CNBC show, "The Big Idea," on Monday night, columnist/author Ann Coulter suggested that the U.S. would be a better place if there weren't any Jewish people and that they needed to "perfect" themselves into -- Christians.
Read all about it!

YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtL80HqjEk)

Ann Coulter on CNBC Show: Jews Need 'Perfecting' (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003657196)

Columnist Ann Coulter Shocks Cable TV Show, Declaring 'Jews Need to Be Perfected by Becoming Christians' (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301216,00.html)

Jewish Democrats demand Coulter media boycott: Ann tells TV interviewer she wants everyone to convert to Christianity (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58089)

Coulter Blasted For Espousing Christian Dogma (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/coulter-blasted-for-espousing-christian-dogma)

Nice Try, Media Matters Nazis, But Ann Coulter is No Anti-Semite (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/10/nice_try_media.html)

[Maggie_T]

ES, can I ask you, as well as the rest of the Coulterphobes, to take you Coulter Derangement Syndrome elsewhere? Some place like DU, or MoveOn. I'm sure you'll be very welcome there.

[Jester21]

You know what's stupid? That douchebag Donny Deutsch acting all offended at her.

Donald, you had her on for one simple reason: she gets ratings because people watch her because she says things like this. So when she drops a bomb like that, don't act surprised or offended. She did exactly what you wanted her too.

[EveningStar]

ES, can I ask you, as well as the rest of the Coulterphobes, to take you Coulter Derangement Syndrome elsewhere? Some place like DU, or MoveOn. I'm sure you'll be very welcome there.
I'm not a Coulterphobe. I simply hate it when she makes an ass of herself.

[EveningStar]

You know what's stupid? That douchebag Donny Deutsch acting all offended at her.

Donald, you had her on for one simple reason: she gets ratings because people watch her because she says things like this. So when she drops a bomb like that, don't act surprised or offended. She did exactly what you wanted her too.
I don't think her comments are offensive - just stupid. The comments harm nobody but her.

[DesertFox]

Her comments don't harm her a bit, and she only began going so far that way after years -- decades -- of liberals (mostly Jews) going way, WAY overboard in their comments about conservatives, referring to us among other things as jack-booted thugs, the Taliban wing of the GOP, Nazis, baby killers etc etc ad nauseum. This went on for 30 years before anybody on the Right began to fire back, and only since Coulter's appearance on the national scene have the Lefties finally backed off -- because she outsmarts them, outmouths them and outinsults them.

Jester has it right: Deutsch has her on because she says things like this, and he would be disappointed if she didn't say things like it on his show, too.

[EveningStar]

Jester has it right: Deutsch has her on because she says things like this, and he would be disappointed if she didn't say things like it on his show, too.
I certainly agree with that.

[DoctorDoom]

Coulter is a columnist, a pundit, an expounder of opinions. She is not a government official. She is not elected. Ergo what she says affects no one who does not permit it to do so.

Go after those who ARE in office who make Ann's columns seem like playground chatter, and who ARE in a position to translate their bigotry and hatred into policy.

[Jack_Savage]

The only thing I have heard her say about Israel is to support them.

[EveningStar]

The only thing I have heard her say about Israel is to support them.
I know. She's not anti-Semitic at all. She likes to stir the pot.

[Wyatt_Junker]

I call shenanigans on this shitty thread. Read the transcript...

In response to a question from Deutsch asking Coulter if "it would be better if we were all Christian," the controversial columnist responded: "Yes."

"We should all be Christian?" Deutsch repeated.

"Yes," Coulter responded, asking Deutsch, who is Jewish, if he would like to "come to church with me."

Deutsch, pressing Coulter further, asked, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians?" She responded: "Yeah."

Coulter deflected Deutsch's assertion that her comments were anti-Semitic, matter-of-factly telling the show's obviously upset host, "That is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews."



This is how the left works. If you actually BELIEVE in your faith as opposed to just give it lip service, you are an intolerant bigot. The douchebag thinks that Anne shouldn't really believe that Christianity is 'better' than other faiths. Instead she should pretend to believe. And, if she doesn't, then she's a hater.

Then, he deliberately misrepresents her basic theological deduction about 'pefected Jews' as some kind of 'final solution', then claims 'controvesy'. Dude's an attention-getting asshole freak. Oh yeah, and a liar.

[DoctorDoom]

We need more pot stirrers, given the coma that has paralyzed the GOP.

And the world be far better if everyone were Christian. Envision a world where Islam dominates.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

DoctorDoom:
Envision a world where Islam dominates.

:moo: That's not an "if", it's a "when". And when that Day comes, Christians will be celebrating with their Lord in Heaven.

[EveningStar]

Ann's remarks aren't controversial. It's she herself who is controversial because she enjoys stirring the pot and getting attention. Her remarks were not controversial. Just ill-thought and dumb.

Also, he was baiting her. She went for it. She didn't have to go for it. And it wasn't honesty that made her go for the bait. It was poor judgment and lack of self control and her craving for attention.

[Jack_Savage]

Ann's remarks aren't controversial. It's she herself who is controversial because she enjoys stirring the pot and getting attention. Her remarks were not controversial. Just ill-thought and dumb.

Also, he was baiting her. She went for it. She didn't have to go for it. And it wasn't honesty that made her go for the bait. It was poor judgment and lack of self control and her craving for attention.
If you listen to what Ann is saying, by that I mean her communications, not the specific words she uses, but the way she uses them to communicate a thought, she is one of the best around. And she has the guts to give her point of view. Thats rare!

So what if you don't like her. What has that ever had to do with anything in the past 25 years? What does like have to do with anything. I don't like spinich but I am happy to eat it. Its like you resent her ability to give her point of view. Is that something you have a personal button on?

Be happy for anyone who is on our side. I suppose you like those who are for Bush, then against him when the polls go the other way? Ann doesn't do that.

Who cares who she dates. We know what her agenda is from the results she produces. Thats more than I can say for many who pretend to be conservative but are only that when its popular. Like the day after 9/11, but a few months later forgot all about those who jumped out of the windows. Ann didn't.

What have you done thats so much better than what Ann is doing? You make it sound like you got something up on her. What is it?

[EveningStar]

Who cares who she dates.
I never said anything about who she was dating.

[EveningStar]

What have you done thats so much better than what Ann is doing? You make it sound like you got something up on her. What is it?
I never said that at all. I don't know where you got that from.

[EveningStar]

Be happy for anyone who is on our side. I suppose you like those who are for Bush, then against him when the polls go the other way? Ann doesn't do that.
You don't know anything about me.

You don't know anything about Ann either.

[DoctorDoom]

We know this: Ann is a best-selling author and a constantly-in-demand speaker and TV guest. You're ... what? An anonymous poster on a couple of Web boards.

Coulter Envy is an ugly thing.

[EveningStar]

We know this: Ann is a best-selling author and a constantly-in-demand speaker and TV guest. You're ... what? An anonymous poster on a couple of Web boards.

Coulter Envy is an ugly thing.
I don't envy her. I admire her. I just disagree with her sometimes. And I hate it when she makes a fool of herself.

[EveningStar]

By your standards nobody can criticize anybody.

[EveningStar]

If I was a real fan of someone and really liked her, I would tell her in no uncertain terms that she was screwing up. I sure wouldn't say, "You go, girl!"

[BabyBeastie]

I don't envy her you lying f*ck. I admire her. I just disagree with her sometimes.
lol

[DoctorDoom]

I don't envy her you lying f*ck. I admire her. I just disagree with her sometimes.Ann is what she is, and she's is very successful at being what she is. I'm sure she cries all the way to the bank because some disagree with her.

As long it's whining, mewling, puking, bed-wetting liberals who disagree with her, she has no reason to change. One doesn't screw with success.

And BTW, "latest fiasco" is hardly mere disagreement.

"I don't care what you say about me, as long as you say something about me, and as long as you spell my name right. "
-- George M. Cohan

[Timberwolf]

In response to a question from Deutsch asking Coulter if "it would be better if we were all Christian," the controversial columnist responded: "Yes."

"We should all be Christian?" Deutsch repeated.

"Yes," Coulter responded, asking Deutsch, who is Jewish, if he would like to "come to church with me."

Deutsch, pressing Coulter further, asked, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians?" She responded: "Yeah."

Coulter deflected Deutsch's assertion that her comments were anti-Semitic, matter-of-factly telling the show's obviously upset host, "That is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews."
Nothing dumb or stupid about what she said...it is the truth!

Fer cryin' out loud, Christ was a JEW! He is the Jew's God's SON and redeemer of the world. The Jew's reject His Lordship and oneness with The Father. Their problem, not ours.

Christians ARE "perfected Jews"...but, ya can't "throw away Judaism and become Christian" because Christianity arose out of Judaism.

[PrezLeefun]

Here is the bottom line when it comes to Ann.


I know she did not in any fashion mean to malicious or insulting.
But the women has NO TACT.

There is a way to bring to gospel to Jews and word to the wise.... that was not it. Poor wording + an innapropirate forum= disaster.

[PrezLeefun]

Ann's remarks aren't controversial. It's she herself who is controversial because she enjoys stirring the pot and getting attention. Her remarks were not controversial. Just ill-thought and dumb.

Also, he was baiting her. She went for it. She didn't have to go for it. And it wasn't honesty that made her go for the bait. It was poor judgment and lack of self control and her craving for attention.

I actually agree with you on this.

[Jack_Savage]

Probably one of societys greatest problems is its members growing hunger for agreement. Compulsive need to be politicaly correct, to be on the winning side. It's a big problem facing each one of us and its a tough thing to confront and deal with for us all.

Just look at President Bush who I think deeply feels the changing winds of publiic opinion, who really struggles with living outside of that circle of public agreement, but has enough personal courage to stick to what he believes is the correct course, we cannot say that for those in his party or those who voted for him. Its a disgusting and glaring example of what I am saying. With an entire society finding a thrill in making the hugely difficult job he must confront tougher, the stick to it nature of Bush, is an important part of him that we all must thank him for. This is the worst time to be President. Thug terrorists attacking us. Our allies running for cover, and Americans too weak to stand up for themselves. Disgusting.

Sure there are things I would do differently. I probably would have dropped a whole slew of nuke-tipped bunker busters on Irans underground bunkers, but I am not sitting at that seat with all the data and problems associated. I voted for Bush to weigh all the aspects of the situation and do his best. I cannot ask for a man to do more than this President and First Lady have done. He and his team make me proud.

Ann Coulter on the other hand is a role model for living her life in a state of "non agreement". She has no difficulity swimming in that pool outside of public approval. She should be applauded for it. Not only is she able to stick to her own originality, when others condem her for her outspoken views, she feeds off of their personal small minded self worth who try and require her to say it the way they think is the "right" way. It inspires her to see the various degrees of their petty views. Steam-rolling along noticing the somewhat weak minded, to the strong weak minded, to the mean, to the just plain insane people who man the media tents, along societys parade route. I could not get up infront of the world with her quick wit and laugh back at a world challanging me. I would hope I could, but I'm just not at her level. We need to learn from Ann and President Bush not take poc-shots at them.

Instead of shrinking in the face of massive critisizm she blooms and responds with a fuller appreciation for the points she is making. It is a tremendious contribution to us all for sticking to what we percieve our honest take on what we really came here to do. Ann, if she thinks she is incorrect on something, she will effortsly say it, glad for someone pointing it out. She doesnt run back into some corner, no, she is a bigger person because of seeing some contribution to how she could do it better.

Anyone here to thinks that throwing some stone at Ann will somehow manipulate her to try and conform to their wishes, is mistaken, it only confirms what she thought in the first place. Try listening to what she is saying, not the words, but the overall message about what it is we really need to confront today. It is our own pettyness. Everyone wants to make a great contribution today, so it isn't great contributions that are wanted and needed, because 99% of what is happening is the junk in the room that stops those great contributions from being made. That disgusting political correctness, which devoures people, immobolizing them and shutting down their great contributon. What Ann Coulter does is show us how to deal with the 99% of the bull-shit that stops great contributions. That is her great contribution.

I think most people here confuse "right" with what is appropriate. "right" with what is correct. "right" with what works. And what works is different for us all, not some standared that we are supposed to imitate from who is popular at every given moment. That has turned us into a fickle political bootlicking society that can't even figure out how to defend herself.

[Nutrider99]

I don't think her comments are offensive - just stupid. The comments harm nobody but her.
Actually her statements are perfectly consistent with the teachings of Christianity. Christ said "No man comes unto the father but by me." He also commanded us to spread the world to the uttermost parts of the earth. Now then, if one who is a Christian and thus saved from damnation is in conversation with one who is Jewish and thus has rejected that Christ is the son of God, is it not an act of love to suggest that the Jewish person seek Christ? As such, how could that be considered bigoted?

Since when is the First Amendment not protecting of the free exercise of religion, even if that religion encourages leading others to Christ? It is not hateful to witness to members of another religion, it is hateful NOT to and thus deprive them of the chance for salvation. Certainly, Judaism has its own beliefs. Maybe he would serve his religion better by inviting Ann to become Jewish.

Frankly, I'm sick of these "girly men" who run and cry to the media every time they're offended. Where is their concerted condemnation of Islam, a false religion that demands their annihilation? Once again Ann is right and the media is wrong.

[DoctorDoom]

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No, we can't!

As for Jews who are fixated on the idea that Christians are their enemy, they might want to give some serious thought to the fact that evangelical Christians have always been the staunchest, most unbending supporters of Israel. The Christian-bashers don't seem to care a whit about the religion that demands their deaths, and its rabid followers that are obsessed with killing them.

As for Deutsch, is he an observant Jew? Or is he one of the rapidly growing number of Jews who are Jewish solely by descent? Judaism is replete with apostate or atheistic Jews.

[EveningStar]

As I said, I think Ann's remarks are merely dumb. But they are in no way anti-Semitic.

The ADL, however, is making political hay while the sun shines. As usual, they are pulling a chicken little. Of course, they are a leftist organization, so what can we expect? :flame:

ADL Condemns Ann Coulter's Comment That Jews Need 'To Be Perfected' (http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/5149_12.htm)

[Jack_Savage]

Here is the bottom line when it comes to Ann.


I know she did not in any fashion mean to malicious or insulting.
But the women has NO TACT.

There is a way to bring to gospel to Jews and word to the wise.... that was not it. Poor wording + an innapropirate forum= disaster.
that is her talant.

Tact translates in todays world as political correctness. Nobody in todays world can say anything of meaning in this new world, except the punk-left, Hillary, Obama, and Algore

[PrezLeefun]

^^^I dont care what she says about Politics. But when you venture off into religion especially ministry to Jews it is shaky ground if you want to be heard.

There is a way to do things and she clearly doesnt know how to do Jewish Ministry.

And as ES said she was baited and she took it when she should have veered around it.

[EveningStar]

^^^I dont care what she says about Politics. But when you venture off into religion especially ministry to Jews it is shaky ground if you want to be heard.

There is a way to do things and she clearly doesnt know how to do Jewish Ministry.

And as ES said she was baited and she took it when she should have veered around it.

Ann Coulter: I should have just said he's an anti-Christian bigot! (http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/g/c0dbe939-60a0-4658-a687-85f92b7f904b)

Kevin McCullough
Musclehead Revolution
October 12, 2007

When my friend Ann Coulter came to see us in studio on Friday she mentioned the blind-siding that she had just experienced with Danny Deutsch of CNBC.

In her own words, he led her down this path to ask her what the world would look like if she had the chance to be for sake of a better way of putting it Queen for the day. She relayed to me then that what unfolded she was truly taken off guard by...

It appears that it's Kevin McCullough who is calling Donny Deutsch an anti-Christian bigot rather than Ann.

Ann is a big girl. She is also highly intelligent. This blind-siding stuff is a bit hard to swallow. Yes, Deutsch did bait her. She didn't have to react like Pavlov's dog and go for the bait.

[EveningStar]

that is her talant.

Tact translates in todays world as political correctness. Nobody in todays world can say anything of meaning in this new world, except the punk-left, Hillary, Obama, and Algore
Good judgment is also important. The left will manage to capitalize on anything we say. We need not make it easy for them.

Unfortunately, Ann can't resist leaping before looking.

[BobD]

What Ann says might sound stupid to some in this thread :rolleyes:, but I think what she says is a breath of fresh in a world full of those that are afraid to offend anyone.:thumb: Call a spade a spade. Don't beat around the bush and leave any doubt about your enemies to your enemies. Don't play slow pitch in a fast pitch game. Go for the jugular, because Marquis of Queensberry Rules are long gone. Dhimms are nasty and hit below the belt every chance they get, and I don't hear anyone fron their side reeling them in, eh? If you can't stand the heat in our kitchen, go to Dairy Queen. :nosympathy:

[PrezLeefun]

Good judgment is also important. The left will manage to capitalize on anything we say. We need not make it easy for them.

Unfortunately, Ann can't resist leaping before looking.

Very true!:claps:

[Jack_Savage]

You don't know anything about me.

You don't know anything about Ann either.
You don't know anything about me. --Evening Star



Your right. I owe you an apology. I confused your messages with someone else. The way you responded got me. Very nice. I went back and read a bunch of your posts, I was off base.

[EveningStar]

You don't know anything about me. --Evening Star



Your right. I owe you an apology. I confused your messages with someone else. The way you responded got me. Very nice. I went back and read a bunch of your posts, I was off base.
Thank you. No big deal. This topic has a lot of us stirred up. :)

[Canaduck]

Her comments don't harm her a bit, and she only began going so far that way after years -- decades -- of liberals (mostly Jews) going way, WAY overboard in their comments about conservatives, referring to us among other things as jack-booted thugs, the Taliban wing of the GOP, Nazis, baby killers etc etc ad nauseum. This went on for 30 years before anybody on the Right began to fire back, and only since Coulter's appearance on the national scene have the Lefties finally backed off -- because she outsmarts them, outmouths them and outinsults them.
Would you care to expound upon that "mostly Jews" bit? I'm confused as to how its mostly Jews among liberals making those accusations, seeing as about 1% of the people in America are Jews, unless Jews for some reason are disproportionately representated in that somehow.

[Jack_Savage]

Benjamin Netanyahu is another one of my favorates. If he is elected we will see real change in Israel.


"Strongly against Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran)'s pursuit of uranium enrichment, Netanyahu said "it is the year 1938 and Iran is Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany)."<SUP class="noprint Template-Fact">[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)]</SUP> In a March 8, 2007 interview with CNN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN), he asserted that there is only one difference between Nazi Germany and the Islamic Republic of Iran, namely that the first entered a worldwide conflict and then sought atomic weapons, while the latter is first seeking atomic weapons and, once it has them, will then start a world war."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu


In my opinion Netanyahu and Ann Coulter are on the same page.They both see the evil coming at us. Everything is coming to a head. We live in such important times and so many people don't care. Look at it as some personal opportunity.

Deviant freak-militants attacking the church while recieving communion in San Francisco. Giant corporations like Miller Brewing financing the whole scummy activities. Media won't report it. How far does it go before civil-war breaks out here in America or Martial Law. Its very important who gets in the White House. Someone who can lead, not dictate like Hillary or that radical Obama. He makes these times scary Who would he mobilize. How would a nation afraid trust bandits like the Clinton's running rough-shod, making personal deals above the countrys best interest.

What would their definition of "what is" be if real trouble breaks out?

This next vote is real important for all Americans. Not just the conservatives, and I don't believe enough people realize it.

[Venus de Smilo]

[quote=EveningStar;592296]She's promoting her latest book and wants some controversy.


Read all about it!

YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtL80HqjEk)

Ann Coulter on CNBC Show: Jews Need 'Perfecting' (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003657196)

Columnist Ann Coulter Shocks Cable TV Show, Declaring 'Jews Need to Be Perfected by Becoming Christians' (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301216,00.html)

Jewish Democrats demand Coulter media boycott: Ann tells TV interviewer she wants everyone to convert to Christianity (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58089)

Coulter Blasted For Espousing Christian Dogma (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/coulter-blasted-for-espousing-christian-dogma)

Nice Try, Media Matters Nazis, But Ann Coulter is No Anti-Semite (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/10/nice_try_media.html)[/quote

Do we know for sure Ann wasn't parodying the Islamofascists to make a point about the left in this country coddling Muslims and allowing them relligious expression rights and symbolisms that they deny Christians?

What Maggie said.

[Venus de Smilo]

I don't envy her. I admire her. I just disagree with her sometimes. And I hate it when she makes a fool of herself.

Well, we hate it when you make a fool of yourself, too. "Latest fiasco" certainly belies your claim that you "admire" Ann. :D

[mateusrosé]

Please. What I found offensive, was Donny Deutsch's feigned outrage. And give me a break with that question about what her perfect world would be--was he not baiting her? I know this guy started out as a game show contestant, but now he'll apparently do just about anything to provoke and feed this controversy to get his ratings out of the tank. :rolleyes:

As for the "perfected Jews" comment, this is just more of the same that we heard when the pope was attacked for his recent statement that Catholicism is the only true religion. Funny, that "one, true, holy, and apostolic church" dogma's no different from what it was when I was a kid in catholic school.
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[Kathy30]

Ann wasn't quite at her best. Her best was when she said we should go to the middle east, kill the leaders, steal their oil and convert them all to Christianity. That's priceless!

She has a belief as a Christian person that the way to Grace is through belief in Jesus Christ. This goes for Jews, Mulims, Atheists and Agnostics. Good for her for saying so.