Father Sues Church: Funeral protest made him SICK

[BabyBeastie]

The church's protests have inspired several state laws and a federal law about funeral protests, but the Maryland suit is believed to be the first filed by the family of a fallen serviceman.

Asked Wednesday about a sign that read "Thank God for dead soldiers," Snyder said he thinks about it daily.


Evening Sun dot com (http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_7277523?source=most_viewed)

[Venus de Smilo]

I SO want these plaintiffs to win. The Phelps gang are a bunch of terrorists.

[bigred1says]

These people are evil nut jobs and will be toasting their buns for eternity. If there was ever a case of hate speech this would be it. I stand firmly for the first amendment but these idiots are doing their best to derail that protection for us all. I can imagine what would have happened to these yahoos if they would have protested soldier’s funerals during the revolutionary or civil wars, can you say firing squads? The article refers to them as fundamentalists; there is nothing in the Bible that calls for hate and cruelty. They are a total disgrace to the Christian faith.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

These people are evil nut jobs and will be toasting their buns for eternity. If there was ever a case of hate speech this would be it. I stand firmly for the first amendment but these idiots are doing their best to derail that protection for us all. I can imagine what would have happened to these yahoos if they would have protested soldier’s funerals during the revolutionary or civil wars, can you say firing squads? The article refers to them as fundamentalists; there is nothing in the Bible that calls for hate and cruelty. They are a total disgrace to the Christian faith.

Ditto!

[Wolfcounsel]

It is incredible that it takes a court of law to demonstrate to retards like the Woodsboro clowns that funerals are not an invitation for protest. I hope they get their peepees whacked and whacked OFF!:flame:

[Lazarus]

DAMN BOUT TIME!!!! I hope he bleeds those evil bastards of every dime and every asset they have... Put em on the street clamouring around an oil drum-campfire for warmth...!

Laz has nothing but loathing for those despicable roaches... They are the mouthpieces of Satan and they don't deserve to live within the borders of this nation...

Deport em to Venezuela...:flame:

[BuckeyeMike]

Personally, I'd like to read that a group of civilians, vets, and active duty guys just flat ass waded into the son of a bitches and beat the livin' shit outta ALL of them, regardless of sex! Personally, I'd love to be one of those civilian vets that flat ass waded into the son of a bitches and beat the livin' shit outta ALL of them........regardless of sex!

[buckeyepete]

I ask you folks, why is their so-called 'church' still standing? Where do they get their funds to travel to all these different funerals?

The nights are dark, and ex-military snipers...............taking out the trash.........

[buckeyepete]

I wonder if the Westboro hypocrite and his band of traitors has ever thought of going to the heart of their hatred and done any protesting in San Fransisco?

Probably not. They know they wouldn't make it outa there alive.

[Marshwiggle]

Man do I hate reading stuff like this! http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/marshwiggle_2006/grumble.gif

I really hope this family wins...

Here is a web site for Lance Corporal Matthew Snyder and has the whole story, updates, filed court documents, and a place to donate to the family and contact your local and state representatives: http://www.matthewsnyder.org/

[Venus de Smilo]

A not so widely known fact about the Phelpses is...........they are almost all lawyers. Yep, LAWYERS!

These plaintiffs are going to have a difficult time winning this case - not because the Phelpses are lawyers but because the Phelpses have assiduously stayed within existing law in their activities. This case may be charting new First Amendment waters.

It WOULD indeed be nice to publicly make an association/connection between the anti-military San Francisco and the Phelpses. It would be SWEET. Another similarity besides the anti-military positions is the act of intruding into sacrosanct places and events - the horrid fake nuns intruding their blasphemy and mockery into a Catholic mass and the Phelpses intruding their blasphemous message into funerals attending by grieving families.

I have often wonderd if the Phelpses are far-left radicals of the vicious, anarchical persuasion rather than religious loonies.

[Riverboat]

A not so widely known fact about the Phelpses is...........they are almost all lawyers. Yep, LAWYERS!I said it first!

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40417&highlight=phelps&page=2

Some of you have read this before. It's in my archive, so bear with me because it bears repeating.

"Phelps needs a good ass-kicking. That goes without saying. But you better do in a stairwell without witnesses. Why? Because that's what he's hoping for! He's running a scam!

"According to someone at the Snopes community board, it's a business. They travel the country, set up websites telling you exactly when they'll be there, and using the most inflammatory statements all over the place, just to get someone to violate their rights for profit. Then they sue the military, the police force that was to protect them, and everyone that is around them for money. Phelps does not break the law. What he does is try to make YOU break the law.

"That Jerry Springer sideshow is a legal whore gussied up as a fire-and-brimstone minister. According to an entry in Wikipedia, Phelps was disbarred from practicing in federal courts almost 20 years ago for a range of ethical violations. Interestingly, the article also says, "His final disbarment resulted from a plea deal through which the Federal Court would stop disbarment hearings against the rest of his family." So, he's not the only attorney in the house."

I'm a genius, ain't I? :evilgrin:

[Venus de Smilo]

I said it first!

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40417&highlight=phelps&page=2

Some of you have read this before. It's in my archive, so bear with me because it bears repeating.

"Phelps needs a good ass-kicking. That goes without saying. But you better do in a stairwell without witnesses. Why? Because that's what he's hoping for! He's running a scam!

"According to someone at the Snopes community board, it's a business. They travel the country, set up websites telling you exactly when they'll be there, and using the most inflammatory statements all over the place, just to get someone to violate their rights for profit. Then they sue the military, the police force that was to protect them, and everyone that is around them for money. Phelps does not break the law. What he does is try to make YOU break the law.

"That Jerry Springer sideshow is a legal whore gussied up as a fire-and-brimstone minister. According to an entry in Wikipedia, Phelps was disbarred from practicing in federal courts almost 20 years ago for a range of ethical violations. Interestingly, the article also says, "His final disbarment resulted from a plea deal through which the Federal Court would stop disbarment hearings against the rest of his family." So, he's not the only attorney in the house."

I'm a genius, ain't I? :evilgrin:
Yep, you are! :biggrin: And Shirley Phelps and that other woman - name escapes me at the moment - are also both lawyers.

[DeclinetoState]

A not so widely known fact about the Phelpses is...........they are almost all lawyers. Yep, LAWYERS!They--or Fred, the leader of the clan, anyway--are also lifelong Democrats. Fred was also a supporter of Algore at one time (I don't think he is anymore, though).

[PrezLeefun]

These people are evil nut jobs and will be toasting their buns for eternity. If there was ever a case of hate speech this would be it. I stand firmly for the first amendment but these idiots are doing their best to derail that protection for us all. I can imagine what would have happened to these yahoos if they would have protested soldier’s funerals during the revolutionary or civil wars, can you say firing squads? The article refers to them as fundamentalists; there is nothing in the Bible that calls for hate and cruelty. They are a total disgrace to the Christian faith.

Ditto that. They really pervert the bible and Christian dogma. They give folks who the bible seriously a bad name. I think they are really a big part of the reason so many Christians get all the terrible labels of being extreme, hateful, and intolerant.

I really dispise the woman who is always on Fox news. Some of my favorite clips are her getting served by the news anchors.

[PrezLeefun]

I wonder if the Westboro hypocrite and his band of traitors has ever thought of going to the heart of their hatred and done any protesting in San Fransisco?

Probably not. They know they wouldn't make it outa there alive.

Could you imagine these "christian" nut jobs vs. "gay rights" nutjobs.

Good Grief.... it would be a Jerry Springer episode on crack!

[DeclinetoState]

Well, here's their response to the Southern California fires:


Thank God for the CA Fires!!!

WBC Prays for Everything to Burn!!!

WBC will preach at the funerals!!


Connect the dots, people! It really isn't that hard! Schwarzenegger signs SB 777, the mayor of San Diego says publicly from his office that same-sex marriage is the right way to go, and the persecution of God's messengers increases daily via the legislatures, the courts, and the undisciplined, violent mob mentality all Americans possess and cater to. Of course God Almighty is going to punish you!
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

[PrezLeefun]

That is easily one of the most disgusting sites I have ever seen, which is saying something.

[Marshwiggle]

Baltimore jury awards father 2.9 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :claps::claps::claps: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/marshwiggle_2006/flip.gif

Justice for those creepy people from their whacko church! http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/marshwiggle_2006/very_happy.gif

[Venus de Smilo]

Well, here's their response to the Southern California fires:


http://www.godhatesamerica.com/
Interesting to note that we have posters here at FC who agree with the Westboro terrorists.

By the way, Fred Phelps, leader of this pack of rabid animals, is a registered 'rat! :rotflmbo:

[Lubbock]

Interesting to note that we have posters here at FC who agree with the Westboro terrorists.

I must have missed it.

I have never seen that here.

I've followed several Phelps threads here at FC and have never seen anything but disgust, disdain and contempt for the Westboro terrorists.

[Marshwiggle]

Baltimore jury awards father 2.9 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :claps::claps::claps: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/marshwiggle_2006/flip.gif

Justice for those creepy people from their whacko church! http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/marshwiggle_2006/very_happy.gif


Here is the story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307058,00.html

I am so excited... He won! http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/marshwiggle_2006/runaround.gif

[DesertFox]

Phelps is a sick bastid. Ship his ass to Iraq and let him run his scam there. :evilgrin:

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:unsmile: Venus, I need you to show proof of your allegation.

[PrezLeefun]

^^^^As do I. Some folks here can sure be tough (maybe mean when really riled up), but not like those people who are evil personified.

[gnome]

Ditto that. They really pervert the bible and Christian dogma. They give folks who the bible seriously a bad name. I think they are really a big part of the reason so many Christians get all the terrible labels of being extreme, hateful, and intolerant.

I really dispise the woman who is always on Fox news. Some of my favorite clips are her getting served by the news anchors.

I'm not sure, but I think most people are beginning to catch on that they do NOT represent any kind of mainstream Christianity or the Right--especially since they started protesting soldiers.

Some Patriot Riders came through town a while ago and I stopped to thank them for their work.

[Lubbock]

We had a contingent of Phelps Phreaks here several months back for the funeral of a soldier who died in Iraq. The Patriot Riders wre here. It was nice to have them, and they were welcome, of course . . . but they weren't really needed. A bunch of Cowboys got together and took care of the problem. The numerous law enforcement agencies who were present to keep the peace were all suddenly called away on a doughnut break.

A couple of weeks back, we had two funerals within days of one another for soldiers who were killed in Iraq.

For whatever reason, the Phelps Phreaks didn't show up here.

{{{{{{{{{{{{SHRUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

[Gonzo67]

Interesting to note that we have posters here at FC who agree with the Westboro terrorists.


You know, you gotta bring crap from other threads just to start shit. That little dig at me was pathetic even from you. Go back to my post on that topic and show me where I THANKED GOD for the fires you dumb, pathetic, waste of sperm bitch!

You read all you want into my comments. When well respected people send me PM's THANKING me for calling your ignorant, pathetic ass out, you NEED to get it through you're fuking head that you're making more than a few of us sick.

Keep topics from other threads OUT OF IT. And keep in mind, YOU are the reason abortion is still legal!

[Gonzo67]

I must have missed it.

I have never seen that here.


She's talking about me Lub. Because she's too ignorant to read what I said without injecting her assumptions into it.

[Suzie]

Here's the story. :boogie:

My respect and admiration to this Marine and my heart remains heavy for his family, but I am glad they put this church in it's place. Grieve in peace, and I hope you get every penny these nuts have.

Funeral war picketers lose verdict
Anti-gay church protested at ceremony for man’s son, a fallen Iraq Marine
The Associated Press
updated 7:34 p.m. ET, Wed., Oct. 31, 2007
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BALTIMORE - A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.
Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.
The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.


MORE HERE (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21566280/)

[Venus de Smilo]

She's talking about me Lub. Because she's too ignorant to read what I said without injecting her assumptions into it.
Not just you, you pissant-brained slug. You admitted that you intended the insult - in fact you were proud of yourself. Are you changing your story AGAIN?

[PrezLeefun]

^^^Could someone please offer a link to that thread so I could read what you guys are talking about?

[Venus de Smilo]

Here's the story. :boogie:

My respect and admiration to this Marine and my heart remains heavy for his family, but I am glad they put this church in it's place. Grieve in peace, and I hope you get every penny these nuts have.

Funeral war picketers lose verdict
Anti-gay church protested at ceremony for man’s son, a fallen Iraq Marine
The Associated Press
updated 7:34 p.m. ET, Wed., Oct. 31, 2007
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BALTIMORE - A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.
Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.
The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.


MORE HERE (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21566280/)
Since the judgment is against the church, the plaintiffs should be able to seize and/or lien every bit of property owned by the "church". The defendant will of course appeal the verdict, but they'll have to spend more money to do it. Just as we try to do with other terrorist organizations, draining the money is one of THE best ways to shut them down.

[Suzie]

Can we keep this thread on topic please, this family has fought hard to give this young man the respect he deserves. And he certainly does deserve it from here as well.

[Lubbock]

" . . . draining the money is one of THE best ways to shut them down. . . . "

It's exactly how the Southern Poverty Law Cener shut down the KKK or one of those White Supremist Terror Groups.

Broke 'em.

Financially.

One of he few places where you can really hurt them.

Pray God, this brave Marine's family takes every last dollar in the Phelps Phreaks' coffers.

[Venus de Smilo]

" . . . draining the money is one of THE best ways to shut them down. . . . "

It's exactly how the Southern Poverty Law Cener shut down the KKK or one of those White Supremist Terror Groups.

Broke 'em.

Financially.

One of he few places where you can really hurt them.

Pray God, this brave Marine's family takes every last dollar the Phelps Phreaks' coffers.
Amen to that, and l fervently hope that every other family the phreaks attempt this against do the same thing. In fact, depending on the statute of limitations state to state, there are other families who should be able to sue for the phreaks' more recent past incursions into the funerals of their loved ones. I would love to see them all get on board and run these haters into the ground forever.

[Lubbock]

I was thinking the same exact thing, Venus, when I heard this news today.

The door has been opened now, and any military family who has been harmed by these cretins should bring suit.

That Phelps woman [I think her name is Shirley] is supposedly an attorney. I wonder if she defended this suit, and her poor lawering is what lost the case for the "church"?

If a half dozen families in a half dozen staes would file suit, it would break the "church" in attorney fees alone, not to mention the judgments that could possibly be handed down.

These low-lifes need to be kicked and kicked good while they're on the ropes. Don't let them get up. Keep kicking.

[Venus de Smilo]

Shirley is indeed her name, and she is indeed a lawyer, as is the other hag she travels around with whom is also a relation (I think - not positive, though). Anyway, as we know, they spew their hatred in the most perverse manner possible. In fact, they are more sick and perverse than the worst of the queers they claim to loathe.

I don't know if they represented themselves or not - they may have - but whomever it was, I hope they handle the next case and the next and the next..............

[Lubbock]

. . . they are more sick and perverse than the worst of the queers they claim to loathe. . . .

If someone put a gun to my head and told me to pick a side, I'm not but so sure that I wouldn't chose the "queers."

I damned sure wouldn't want my picture taken with any of that Phelps bunch.

[Venus de Smilo]

If someone put a gun to my head and told me to pick a side, I'm not but so sure that I wouldn't chose the "queers."

I damned sure wouldn't want my picture taken with any of that Phelps bunch.
LOL! It's a choice you and I will never have to make, thank heavens, but in your hypothetical, I'd probably have to join you. :sad:

[TeenageRepublican]

I'm glad the father sued Phelps.

I hope this thread doesn't end up in Flame Wars like the CA fires thread did. Didn't the exact same conflict(s) happen there as in here?

[Lubbock]

TR!

Shhhhhhhhhh . . .

Don't bring up touchy subjects.

Just pretend that it never happened, and hope it never rears its ugly head again.

[PrezLeefun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3PyoUPcobA

here one of the news coverage videos....

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[buckeyepete]

I feel real strongly that if that Fox News reporter could have gotten ahold of that ugly straight headed whore, the whore would have been fitted for a rubber bag.




Great Post Prez. Thanx

[qosmio]

Here's an interesting BBC documentary on the Phelps family by Louis Theroux.

"The Most Hated Family in America"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4413388146858417528&q=the+most+hated+family+in+america&total=88&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[buckeyepete]

Great vidio qosimo. Those cultist are going to go the way of Jim Jones and David Koresh.

[PrezLeefun]

I feel real strongly that if that Fox News reporter could have gotten ahold of that ugly straight headed whore, the whore would have been fitted for a rubber bag.




Great Post Prez. Thanx

Much welcome.... I too think that Julie may not have been able to control herself either.

[Venus de Smilo]

Much welcome.... I too think that Julie may not have been able to control herself either.
I remember that exchange. I think Banderas handled herself fine. I see nothing wrong with her reacting viscerally to the vile natures and grossly perverse actions of these people. If she hadn't, Shirley Phelps would have simply spewed her hatred unchecked as though what she had to say was normal, fine and dandy, no need to challenge it.

Banderas isn't always the brightest bulb in the pack, but I perceive her interviews as honest, to the point, and she seems to me to be generally a good, patriotic American who supports our troops.