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Politicalmom
11-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Nat'l Right to Life to endorse Thompson
Fred Thompson will pick up the support of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) tomorrow, according to two Republicans familar with the decision.
For a candidate who came up empty-handed last week when three prominent Christian conservatives endorsed GOP hopefuls and is falling in both national and early state polls, the move comes at a critical time.
NRLC is the most prominent anti-abortion group in the country, with affiliates in all 50 states and over 3,000 local chapters.
A spokesperson for the organization declined to comment on their endorsement decision, but Thompson was likely rewarded for his strong pro-life voting record in the Senate. As Thompson frequently touts on the stump, he rated out at 100% on the group's report card.
But some rivals and neutral observers are already puzzled at the decision. One supporter of another Republican hopeful called the move "a typical Washington insider deal."
While his voting record is pure, Thompson indicated he supported abortion rights when he ran for the Senate in 1994. As a federalist, he opposes including unborn children under 14th Amendement protections and supports letting states decide their own abortion laws.
Still, in the hotly contested effort to court the fragmented social conservative base, the validation by this group represents a coup for Thompson.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1107/Natl_Right_to_Life_to_endorse_Thompson.html
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My commments: Ramesh Ponnuru was opining on the Corner that he thought it would be Romney, but NRTL has been outspoken for Fred all year.
Now if the NRA endorses Fred, preferably immediately, I think it would be all over but the shouting, IMO.
Lazarus
11-12-2007, 02:26 PM
I guess that kinda neitralizes all those other endorsements that passed Fred by last week...:biggrin:
Politicalmom
11-12-2007, 02:46 PM
I think so. I was disturbed by how little attention McClintock's endorsement received. In my opinion, that was just a huge endorsement.
Beowulf
11-12-2007, 03:12 PM
:claps:
The_Elucidator
11-12-2007, 04:10 PM
Make no mistake about it; this is a HUGE endorsement! This completely overrides any endorsement from a tin pot TV evangelist.
TeenageRepublican
11-12-2007, 06:09 PM
Only three words come to mind at the moment:
Go Fred Go!
Jack_Savage
11-12-2007, 07:16 PM
that was an important statement for Fred. And I really liked his response on Kerik. No doubt about Fred when it comes to guts and a thick enough skin to look across the table at Aboominijab telling him where Mary wore the beads. Its time he started learning about it.
Politicalmom
11-13-2007, 01:03 AM
Time he started learning about what?
Venus de Smilo
11-13-2007, 02:36 AM
I think so. I was disturbed by how little attention McClintock's endorsement received. In my opinion, that was just a huge endorsement.
Few people, even few 'pubs, outside CA know who Tom McClintock is.
Good for Fred. It's about time something - ANYTHING - good happened in that campaign. I pray that this will breathe some upward movement into his campaign.
Suzie
11-13-2007, 10:25 AM
Thompson Endorsed by Right to Life (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkuEzzlHhkgAzx3QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12ir21kuc/EXP=1195057412/**http%3a//abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/wireStory%3fid=3854228) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sch/bn/nw2.gif (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkuEzzlHhkgA0B3QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12ir21kuc/EXP=1195057412/**http%3a//abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/wireStory%3fid=3854228)
ABC News - 26 minutes agoFred Thompson Endorsed by National Right to Life Committee Tuesday.
:thumb: Can anyone say shot in the arm?
Rhino
11-13-2007, 11:29 AM
Better'n Robertson.
Suzie
11-13-2007, 11:35 AM
I'll take a whole group of support over one person any day. :D
Lazarus
11-13-2007, 12:59 PM
We need something to put some fire back into Fred's campaign... He's all but dropped off the radar these days... :sad:
HomeschoolrsRUs
11-13-2007, 01:05 PM
We need something to put some fire back into Fred's campaign... He's all but dropped off the radar these days... :sad:
Not unusual or unexplainable though -- the media doesn't want Thompson they want Giuliani. The GOP Power Machine doesn't want Thompson they want Giuliani. There are "plants" all over the place cheerleading for Thompson. We have persons in our own party* rah-rahing for a candidate who plainly is NOT Conservative, is NOT Republican, and those wanting to hold fast to the party foundation, well WE'RE the ones being told to suck it up and vote for Giuliani because of Hillary. Sorry, WE'RE not the ones straying from the farm, the wandering ones should be herded back into the fold.
This is a great endorsement, but I'll bet you'll see very little coverage, and if it DOES get coverage, it will be handled under the auspices of getting an endorsement from a "right-wing religious fringe group."
* This is not to be construed as a personal attack on anyone.
Lazarus
11-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Well the media is not the only source of promotional material... You can bet this organization will conduct its own mail-out campaign to its members...
Fred just might win this race while flying under the radar - And wouldn't that just enrage the MSM...;)
Lazarus
11-13-2007, 01:12 PM
Maybe we could get the two threads merged... Good comments on both...
Suzie
11-13-2007, 01:14 PM
The primaries might surprise a lot of people in both parties. If so, quite a few people have wasted a lot of our time.
HomeschoolrsRUs
11-13-2007, 01:17 PM
Threads merged.
Lazarus
11-13-2007, 01:22 PM
The primaries might surprise a lot of people in both parties. If so, quite a few people have wasted a lot of our time.Not to mention, Money... Laz glares pointedly at Romney...
Threads merged.Tanx, sweety...:)
Venus de Smilo
11-13-2007, 02:38 PM
Not unusual or unexplainable though -- the media doesn't want Thompson they want Giuliani. The GOP Power Machine doesn't want Thompson they want Giuliani. There are "plants" all over the place cheerleading for Thompson. We have persons in our own party* rah-rahing for a candidate who plainly is NOT Conservative, is NOT Republican, and those wanting to hold fast to the party foundation, well WE'RE the ones being told to suck it up and vote for Giuliani because of Hillary. Sorry, WE'RE not the ones straying from the farm, the wandering ones should be herded back into the fold.
This is a great endorsement, but I'll bet you'll see very little coverage, and if it DOES get coverage, it will be handled under the auspices of getting an endorsement from a "right-wing religious fringe group."
* This is not to be construed as a personal attack on anyone.
I disagree with you about the media. Rudy has very great name recognition in this country and is popular with Independents. For that reason, Rudy is who the media does NOT want running against Hillary because certainly at this point he has the greatest chance of beating her compared to other 'pubs, which is why the media keeps pounding on Rudy's social positions. Every single 'rat pundit and consultant who comes on TV brings it up over and over again. I'm sure they'd like to see one of the more obscure and poorly funded 'pub candidates get the nomination so their demon has an easier time of it.
You stated that there are people saying we conservatives should vote for Rudy because he can beat Hillary. I haven't seen anybody (except Rudy, his campaign and supporters, which is normal and no different from any other candidate) telling conservatives to vote for Rudy unless he gets the nomination. Can you give an example?
As to the good news about the Thompson endorsement and not being reported, it's been reported and discussed on Fox News numerous times. However, I would not be surprised to see other media outlets report it as a NEGATIVE about him, sad as that comment is.
Rhino
11-13-2007, 02:44 PM
Rudy has very great name recognition in this country and is popular with Independents.A valid point, particularly in light of the fact that independent, or 'swing', voters are usually the ones who decide elections.
d'urville
11-13-2007, 02:45 PM
Thompson Endorsed by Right to Life (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkuEzzlHhkgAzx3QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12ir21kuc/EXP=1195057412/**http%3a//abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/wireStory%3fid=3854228) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sch/bn/nw2.gif (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkuEzzlHhkgA0B3QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12ir21kuc/EXP=1195057412/**http%3a//abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/wireStory%3fid=3854228)
ABC News - 26 minutes agoFred Thompson Endorsed by National Right to Life Committee Tuesday.
:thumb: Can anyone say shot in the arm?
I guess Fred's shakeup of his campaign staff is really paying off - this is a surprise endorsement, but a big one - a blow to Romney most of all.
Thomspon's finally getting "on message", this was the perfect thing to do in the perfect place to do it:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/november/1113_thompson_military.shtml
The MSM has always wanted Rudy, because even if he won the presidency, he'd still be liberal enough and also most of the MSM is based in NY, and they've been wanting to see a Rudy v. Hillary showdown for years now.
It's not going to happen - Romney will take Rudy out in NH and Iowa and both will have problems in Super Tuesday. That's the day Fred has to do very well in, just to stop Romney. SC is key.
Venus de Smilo
11-13-2007, 02:52 PM
I guess Fred's shakeup of his campaign staff is really paying off - this is a surprise endorsement, but a big one - a blow to Romney most of all.
Thomspon's finally getting "on message", this was the perfect thing to do in the perfect place to do it:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/november/1113_thompson_military.shtml
The MSM has always wanted Rudy, because even if he won the presidency, he'd still be liberal enough and also most of the MSM is based in NY, and they've been wanting to see a Rudy v. Hillary showdown for years now.
It's not going to happen - Romney will take Rudy out in NH and Iowa and both will have problems in Super Tuesday. That's the day Fred has to do very well in, just to stop Romney. SC is key.
No, the NY media HATES Rudy. Do some research on THAT subject - it's pretty interesting.
The MSM does NOT want Rudy. They want Hillary, so whichever 'pub is at the top is their target.
d'urville
11-13-2007, 03:06 PM
No, the NY media HATES Rudy. Do some research on that subject.
The MSM does NOT want Rudy. They want Hillary, so whichever 'pub is at the top is their target.
Yes, it's not that the NY media wants to see Rudy win, it's that they want to see Hillary beat him one-on-one. But their worst case scenario would be "covered" with Rudy as president, the most RINO of them all.
Hillary has always been the Anointed One, too bad for them that she sucks as a candidate, they are throwing somebody up there with far too much baggage. I do find it funny that the MSM is trashing Rudy for "ethics" while Sandy Berger is on her team.
Her allies in the MSM will smear whoever they think is the biggest threat, but Thomspon knows that.
HomeschoolrsRUs
11-13-2007, 03:11 PM
I disagree with you about the media.
You're free to do so. We disagree about Rudy on more than this one front.
It is my opinion he is the media "frontrunner" because in the law of broadcasting, ANY coverage is better than no coverage. Someone once said (paraphrasing) "It doesn't matter what they say, as long as they are saying something; it's when they stop talking about me that I get nervous."
Again, it is my opinion the liberal mainstream media wants Rudy to be the candidate because 1) they know in him lies the best chance for a split: the religious, the conservative, and the RINO votes, which offers the best chance for a democrat victory, and 2) he's liberal-lite, so if he does win the Presidency they still have a chance, considering an "R" Presidency, for their liberal causes.
I purposefully included a disclaimer stating my position wasn't to be construed as a personal attack on anyone here at FC. Many I've spoken to in my neck of the woods, as well as friends I've spoken to in different places, who believe like I do, have had Rudy shoved down our throats ad nauseum and we have consistently been portrayed as traitors and complicit in wanting Hillary elected. That is simply not the case.
As you said, I disagree with you about the media, and about Rudy. Period. I will not argue this further in the thread. And as for this thread, I apologize for traveling off course, and will endeavor to bring it back around.
The National Right to Life Endorsement of Fred Thompson is good for his candidacy. This only provides icing on the cake of my support behind him.
Venus de Smilo
11-13-2007, 03:19 PM
I agree that the endorsement is good for his candidacy. At this point, just about any endorsement would be good news. And here's a more subtle aspect some may have not considered: it is surprising that McCain did not get their endorsement instead of Thompson. To me, THAT is what is very good about this endorsement and what suggests to me that Thompson may, just may, become viable (no pun intended) again.
Your disclaimer seems more of a way to get your say while stifling debate on the statements you make, as does your "bringing the thread back around" to the original thread subject AFTER you had your say. Don't you think that really isn't quite cricket?
And, lol, if the MSM and the DBM want Rudy to be the nominee, one would think they might say something positive about him instead of consistently and constantly hammering on about his social positions, mainly abortion. If they really wanted him to be the nominee, they would talk about his record as mayor, they would show photos of him at the high points of his career as they do for the Clintons, not photos of him besieged over his divorce, Bernie Kerik and the HS debacle, etc..
In the law of journalism (and celebrity), any attention is good attention. The same doesn't hold true in politics. Just ask Newt Gingrich.
jayson
11-13-2007, 03:21 PM
This is a great endorsement, but I'll bet you'll see very little coverage, and if it DOES get coverage, it will be handled under the auspices of getting an endorsement from a "right-wing religious fringe group."
Homes, you and I agree on a lot more than we disagree on. This is exactly how Ron Paul supporters, including me, feel.
And no, I'm not trying to start another Ron Paul thread, so anyone who wants to take this and run with it, I will ignore.
HomeschoolrsRUs
11-13-2007, 03:26 PM
Homes, you and I agree on a lot more than we disagree on.
I doubt that very seriously.
And anymore thread drift in the Ron Paul direction will be dealt with. Let's keep it on topic folks. And I'll endeavor to do my best to adhere to my own edict. :smirky:
d'urville
11-13-2007, 03:27 PM
Sad attempt to get it moved. ^^^, screw him. Typical tactic.
Venus - independents aren't a signifcant factor in a GOP primary, polls this far out really are meaningless. If Thompson plays it right, he can get about all of the McCain voters.
Lazarus
11-13-2007, 04:26 PM
...Venus - independents aren't a signifcant factor in a GOP primary, polls this far out really are meaningless. If Thompson plays it right, he can get about all of the McCain voters.That's a very good analysis and one I subscribe to... I mentioned before that when McCain drops out of the race, as he inevitably will do, I believe he will endorse Thompson for the simplistic reason that they sat next to each other in the Senate, and "old boy" bonds are strong from that exlcusive club...
McCain and Thompson never seem to have a cross word between each other, and as National Security is McCain's only real positive claim on the race, I believe he will see Thompson as the heir to McCain's endorsement if he gives one at all...
The_Elucidator
11-13-2007, 04:32 PM
That's a very good analysis and one I subscribe to... I mentioned before that when McCain drops out of the race, as he inevitably will do, I believe he will endorse Thompson for the simplistic reason that they sat next to each other in the Senate, and "old boy" bonds are strong from that exlcusive club...
McCain and Thompson never seem to have a cross word between each other, and as National Security is McCain's only real positive claim on the race, I believe he will see Thompson as the heir to McCain's endorsement if he gives one at all...
You don't think that McCain will just hand his endorsement to Romney... :evilgrin: McCain may have a few issues but he does carry some weight. His endorsement ultimately would be a real shot in the arm of FDT, when the time comes.
Lazarus
11-13-2007, 04:37 PM
i hope he doesn't get all petty and withold his endorsement... I hope he will put the good of the party, and the nation, first... Historically, when McCain has lost political fights, he has remained loyal to the party and I'm hoping that will hold true again this time...
Venus de Smilo
11-13-2007, 06:50 PM
That's a very good analysis and one I subscribe to... I mentioned before that when McCain drops out of the race, as he inevitably will do, I believe he will endorse Thompson for the simplistic reason that they sat next to each other in the Senate, and "old boy" bonds are strong from that exlcusive club...
McCain and Thompson never seem to have a cross word between each other, and as National Security is McCain's only real positive claim on the race, I believe he will see Thompson as the heir to McCain's endorsement if he gives one at all...
It's well known in political circles that Thompson and McCain are good friends. Thompson supported and voted for McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform when other conservatives were abandoning it. As far as I'm concerned, McCain owes Thompson a solid for that so, when McCain bails out, which he will have to do soon or eventually because he is now borrowing money to keep his campaign afloat (he just borrowed $3 mil), he asks his supporters to throw their weight behind Thompson.
Venus de Smilo
11-13-2007, 06:52 PM
i hope he doesn't get all petty and withold his endorsement... I hope he will put the good of the party, and the nation, first... Historically, when McCain has lost political fights, he has remained loyal to the party and I'm hoping that will hold true again this time...
I think he will formally endorse Thompson. I don't think he'll tank and pout publicly.
Rhino
11-14-2007, 08:08 AM
Venus - independents aren't a signifcant factor in a GOP primary, polls this far out really are meaningless. If Thompson plays it right, he can get about all of the McCain voters.We're not all that far out anymore. The primaries start in less than two months.
Suzie
11-14-2007, 10:04 AM
Anti-abortion group: Thompson best candidate to beat Giuliani (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkidGztHADIBXQ7QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjb3ZrYjN kBHBvcwM0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=13fbjepsq/EXP=1195142429/**http%3a//www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/13/thompson.endorsement/index.html%3fsection=cnn_latest) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sch/bn/nw2.gif (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkidGztHADIBXg7QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjb3ZrYjN kBHBvcwM0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=13fbjepsq/EXP=1195142429/**http%3a//www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/13/thompson.endorsement/index.html%3fsection=cnn_latest)
CNN.com - Nov 13 6:38 PMThe National Right to Life Committee, a key anti-abortion group, endorsed Fred Thompson for president Tuesday, saying the former senator was the best candidate to beat Republican front-runner Rudy Giuliani.
Lots of folks nation wide in this group to work on taking him down and bumping Fred up. :thumb:
Rhino
11-14-2007, 10:50 AM
Threads merged.
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