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DesertFox
11-13-2007, 07:11 AM
Selwyn Duke
American Thinker
13 Nov 07

In a racial profiling lawsuit against the Maryland State Police (MSP), a plaintiff's attorney named Eliza Leighton said that some training documents contain "startling examples of racial stereotypes about Hispanics." According to the Associated Press:

For example, one document cautions that Hispanics generally do not hold their alcohol well. They tend to drink too much and this leads to fights. And it notes, Hispanic males are raised to be MACHO and brave, while females are raised to be subservient. Other sterotypes [sic] include the assertion that the weapon of choice for Hispanics is a knife and that Hispanics are reluctant to learn English.

Regardless of the outcome of this lawsuit, we can now expect such information to be purged from the training documents. But, as I wrote about Dr. James Watson's comments regarding Africans, intelligence and genetics, this is part of a very distressing pattern. Everyone fixates on the fact that such comments constitute generalizations (about groups that are supposed to be immune from such things), as if this is an offense in and of itself. Yet, no one seems to ask the only relevant question.

Are the generalizations true?

Before anyone waxes stupid, please don't tell me that all generalizations are invalid because not every member of the given group will conform to a generalization. Intelligent people understand that legitimate generalizations are statements about a group's general characteristics, not individuals' specific ones. For example, if I say that men are taller than women, I don't mean that every man towers over every woman; nevertheless, it is an accurate relation of a general difference between the groups.

More (http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/stereotyping_101.html)

Wolfcounsel
11-13-2007, 07:24 AM
Well, if it makes Selwyn feel better, I use mosquito screen to barbecue beans.:evilgrin:

The_Elucidator
11-13-2007, 07:56 AM
Well, if it makes Selwyn feel better, I use mosquito screen to barbecue beans.:evilgrin:

And let me guess... If it weren't for tamales you wouldn't have anything to unwrap for Christmas?? :evilgrin:

HomeschoolrsRUs
11-13-2007, 08:02 AM
:claps::claps:Excellent article!

From the article cited:
"This isn't to say that every stereotype or generalization -- or what is known as a "profile" in the realm of law enforcement -- is completely accurate. But when one is found wanting, it simply warrants the alteration of its flawed elements, not the throwing out of the baby with the bath water. If a difference is frivolous and fun, it should be a source of mirth; if it indicates greater ability, it should be applauded; and if the difference is damning, remedy should be sought.
But this standard won't be embraced until we accept what is perhaps the most valid generalization of all: The leftist thought police are a menace to civilization and free speech. They are turning us into an ideological state, a place where ideology isn't rejected when it departs from truth but truth is rejected when it departs from ideology."

Lazarus
11-13-2007, 08:19 AM
Thought crimes are the latest evil attack on free societies... Once the concept becomes widely accepted as "righteous", then we will all live in fear of being turned in to the police for our alledged thoughts...

It is the essence of Marxist Revolution...

Wolfcounsel
11-13-2007, 08:27 AM
"And let me guess... If it weren't for tamales you wouldn't have anything to unwrap for Christmas?? :evilgrin:" --The_Elucidator

You got that right! I'm waiting to open up my present. It's a little steering wheel for my van, so that I can drive with my hands cuffed.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Sarah
11-13-2007, 09:01 AM
while females are raised to be subservient.
I grew up in NY around many Hispanics, Puerto Ricans mostly, and I can tell you first hand this stereotype isn't true at all. lol

As for the rest, yeah the guys were always acting macho but then all guys in Brooklyn were knuckleheads. I don't know about the holding alcohol and knives.

The_Elucidator
11-13-2007, 09:19 AM
"And let me guess... If it weren't for tamales you wouldn't have anything to unwrap for Christmas?? :evilgrin:" --The_Elucidator

You got that right! I'm waiting to open up my present. It's a little steering wheel for my van, so that I can drive with my hands cuffed.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Dude; diet soda burns when it comes out the nose!! :shame: Let me guess, a chain link steering wheel? :rotflmbo: Got the little crown for the dashboard?

The_Elucidator
11-13-2007, 09:23 AM
I can tell ya'll that the stereotypes the author mentions are spot on.. but like Sarah mentioned about Puerto Rican women, many of the Mexican women I encounter are breaking out of those stereotypes. For instance, I wear the pants in the family....she tells me which pair and what belt, which shoes and shirt. That's how I roll...

Rhino
11-13-2007, 09:24 AM
I grew up in NY around many Hispanics, Puerto Ricans mostly, and I can tell you first hand this stereotype isn't true at all.Maybe not in your experience, but it is true in many instances. That's why cops talk about it, including hispanic cops. I imagine the prevalence is less amongst Puerto Ricans, but that's just a guess on my part. I know cops in California, the southwest and in many other areas see this all the time.

Everyone fixates on the fact that such comments constitute generalizations (about groups that are supposed to be immune from such things), as if this is an offense in and of itself. Yet, no one seems to ask the only relevant question.

Are the generalizations true?Ain't that the truth?

DesertFox
11-13-2007, 10:00 AM
I grew up in NY around many Hispanics, Puerto Ricans mostly, and I can tell you first hand this stereotype isn't true at all.It's true in any classic latin family, but in Noo Yawk you don't find many of those. Puerto Rican women in Puerto Rico dominate the men in the northeast part of the isle (in and around San Juan). In the southern and western parts, more classical forms of the latin culture predominate and the women allow the men to think they dominate.

Families coming out of Mexico and CentrAm (i.e., illegals) will follow the classic latin pattern much more closely than those who've been here awhile.

The_Elucidator
11-13-2007, 10:06 AM
Families coming out of Mexico and CentrAm (i.e., illegals) will follow the classic latin pattern much more closely than those who've been here awhile.

You got that right!!! :thumb:

Sarah
11-13-2007, 10:11 AM
Puerto Rican women in Puerto Rico dominate the men in the northeast part of the isle (in and around San Juan).

I should get the family to move there and then my husband will HAVE to obey me! buahaha :devilangel: