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HomeschoolrsRUs
11-14-2007, 08:06 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/14/fox-news-huckabee-misled-us-about-tax-speech/
Fox News: Huckabee misled us about tax speech
The question is, did he do so intentionally? Huck told Bill Hemmer this morning that that YouTube video of him begging for a tax hike was actually from a speech delivered after a state supreme court mandate demanding that the state increase funding for education. Not so, claimed Arkansas Journal (http://arkjournal.com/2007/11/correction-huckabee-defenders-lying.html). The court wasn’t involved and there was nothing mandatory about it; it was a simple general revenue request. Carl Cameron looked into it and before you know it, voila — ...
ThomasMore
11-14-2007, 09:33 PM
...sigh...
Three flawed conservative candidates (Thompson, Romney and Huckabee), and one altogether liberal candidate (Giuliani).
It ain't going to be an easy primary season.
Venus de Smilo
11-15-2007, 01:46 AM
...sigh...
Three flawed conservative candidates (Thompson, Romney and Huckabee), and one altogether liberal candidate (Giuliani).
It ain't going to be an easy primary season.
Huck's turning into a stalking horse for Rudy. Huck is a social conservative only. Romney is mostly a phony conservative. Thompson is a conservative, but not as conservative as the Right to Life Committee would like us to believe and he can't get his butt in gear.
The truth is, we really have no excellent candidate.
ThomasMore
11-15-2007, 02:27 AM
A Ronald Wilson Reagan comes along once in a lifetime.
The Conservative movement has had some real heroes in the last 50 years:
1. Barry Goldwater, who had the courage to stand up and state conservative principles on the national stage. Even though he got trounced by LBJ, he set the stage for later conservative victories.
2. William F. Buckley, whose erudite and philosophically-based support for conservative principles gave the movement intellectual respectability. His books, his magazine "National Review" and his PBS debate program "Firing Line" presented an intelligent, well-thought-out conservatism to a wide public, and to the elites.
3. Ronald Reagan, whose spectacular presidency defined modern conservatism for many alive today. He proved that conservatism could be optimistic and forward-thinking without abandoning principles.
4. Newt Gingrich, for standing up to the Democrat juggernaut in Congress and its Republican lackeys, and for defining the Contract with America, the blueprint for conservative legislation.
5. Rush Limbaugh, who galvanized and gave a clear direction to the silent majority, and who single-handedly made talk radio and the alternative media a vital force in American society.
We don't have any new giants on the horizon right now.
Aaron
11-15-2007, 06:26 AM
Huckabee has expressed pro-illegal immigration views, which disqualifies him completely. Anyone not 100% for deportation is not worthy in my book.
Gay marriage is a non-issue, I can get past Giulani on that. His stance on abortion, however, is one I will never get past. Nor are his 'family values.'
Thompson, and Romney believe it or not, look like our best hopes. At least with Romney you know he is somewhat conservative, and Thompson may be able to pull off the actor thing in the general election.
I am still not clear on their views towards illegal immigration, so I have not disqualified either one yet. If someone would like to help me out, that would be excellent.
I don't care about voting whoever in just as long as Hillary doesn't win. That line of thinking does not fly with me. Voting for a lesser of two evils still means voting in evil. I will never compromise on my principles and vote someone like Ghoulani in. A race between Hitlery and Ghoulani is a race between Hitlery and Hitlery, considering they take the same positions on many important issues.
Rhino
11-15-2007, 08:34 AM
Three flawed conservative candidates (Thompson, Romney and Huckabee), and one altogether liberal candidate (Giuliani).How is Thompson supposedly flawed in your mind?
Lazarus
11-15-2007, 08:58 AM
Huckabee has expressed pro-illegal immigration views, which disqualifies him completely....That was a fact that I discovered yesterday to my shock... In my book, Huckabee is out of the running... I will not support any candidate who is pandering to this Illegal Invasion of our country... That info just put Huckabee in the same box with McCain as far as Im concerned... Just another traitor to American sovereignty...
That's ok, though... We need to start weeding out the field anyway... On Laz's list, Huckabee is out of the running... Done!
How is Thompson supposedly flawed in your mind?I too wish to hear an explanation of that... Other than him having trouble energizing his campaign, I see no major flaws in Thompson - He still is THE conservative candidate...
Eagle1
11-15-2007, 09:28 AM
Duncan Hunter!!!
Lazarus
11-15-2007, 09:34 AM
Yeah I could go with Duncan Hunter, except he has about as much chance as Tancredo does...
The_Elucidator
11-15-2007, 09:56 AM
How is Thompson supposedly flawed in your mind?
The big ass knot in his ties!!! :flame:
Rhino
11-15-2007, 09:59 AM
:lol:
ThomasMore
11-15-2007, 05:44 PM
How is Thompson supposedly flawed in your mind?
1. No fire in the belly -- I don't see any aggressive push for the office at all. He is counting on his charm and the conservative grassroots to carry him.
2. On the campaign trail, he states conservative principles, but is vague about them. He doesn't stand clearly, and unequivocally, on tough positions. I want to see him state specifics, stand up to the fire, and sell his positions.
3. No executive experience. Thompson's eight years in the Senate, by itself, doesn't impress me any more than Obama's one term means that he would be a fit Democrat nominee.
4. Fred voted pretty consistently in a conservative and principled manner in the Senate. This is the strongest point in his favor. However, I don't see that he exercised a lot in the way of leadership while he was there.
Bottom line, I think Fred Thompson is clearly a conservative, he is charming, and he makes a good legislative backbencher, but I don't see anything in the way of leadership abilities in him.
With the pit vipers our next President will have to deal with (both domestically and internationally), I want to see A LOT more steel and a lot more energy from him.
I like Fred Thompson. I have yet to be convinced that he is ready to deal with what is coming our way.
Rhino
11-16-2007, 09:34 AM
So, mostly your argument is not that he is flawed, but that his campaigning style is. I can somewhat relate to that. As for executive experience, I don't have any problem with that. Plenty of good presidents had no executive experience, and plenty of bad ones did.
The_Elucidator
11-16-2007, 10:22 AM
I think Fred is not only a candidate, I think Fred is THE candidate! I don't look at him as having flaws or even his campaign as having flaws. I look at our next POTUS as needing some minor tweaking!! If, and that is a huge if, I counld snatch one trait from Rudy and give to FDT it would be his nastiness!! I would like to see Fred tweak his nasty streak up a notch. Outside of that, there isn't a candidate that I would feel more comfortable with. With FDT you don't feel like there is any other agenda than taking care of this great country! :thumb:
ThomasMore
11-16-2007, 10:41 AM
So, mostly your argument is not that he is flawed, but that his campaigning style is.
That is it. It does have me concerned that he is ready to go up against Hillary in the general election, with the press throwing itself wholly behind her, and if elected, that he is ready to take on the Democrat Congress, China, Ahmadinejad, Putin and the other assorted scoundrels and murderers.
Plenty of good presidents had no executive experience, and plenty of bad ones did.
True.
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