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Naturalized-Texan
11-22-2007, 05:35 PM
There is only one guarantee for 2008: If Ron Paul ends up being the Republican nominee - God forbid - the Democrat nominee, whomever it may be, will win in the largest landslide in American history and both houses of Congress will have at least 3 to 1 Democrat majorities.
We can give thanks on this Thanksgiving Day that Ron Paul hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of winning anything.
Madbomber
11-22-2007, 05:43 PM
There is only one guarantee for 2008: If Ron Paul ends up being the Republican nominee - God forbid - the Democrat nominee, whomever it may be, will win in the largest landslide in American history and both houses of Congress will have at least 3 to 1 Democrat majorities.
We can give thanks on this Thanksgiving Day that Ron Paul hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of winning anything.
I beg to differ. If you put any Pro-war candidate up there against any Democrat that 70% of the people that want us out of Iraq that you keep denying are out there are going to show you a lanslide like we have never seen before.
The best option out there is the Conservative Anti-war candidate. It's quite a pickle we are in. Either way a lot of conservatives are going to be unhappy with thier representative.
MB
Naturalized-Texan
11-22-2007, 06:13 PM
I beg to differ. If you put any Pro-war candidate up there against any Democrat that 70% of the people that want us out of Iraq that you keep denying are out there are going to show you a lanslide like we have never seen before.
So, you're still grasping at straws with that false 70% claim. :rotflmbo:
The best option out there is the Conservative Anti-war candidate. It's quite a pickle we are in. Either way a lot of conservatives are going to be unhappy with thier representative.
1) Ron Paul has almost no support among Republicans, so he'll be lucky to get as much as 3 or 4 percent of the votes in the Republican primary elections. And that support will only come from the hate-America fringe.
2) Ron Paul is a traitor. The American people will not vote for a traitor.
3) He is even in trouble among voters in his congressional district who, as patriots, strongly support the troops AND their mission and are turning away from Ron Paul.
4) All indications are that he will be retired from public life after the 2008 elections.
It's a good thing that he is getting so many contributions from the hate-America left to provide him with some retirement income.
Jack_Savage
11-22-2007, 06:17 PM
I beg to differ. If you put any Pro-war candidate up there against any Democrat that 70% of the people that want us out of Iraq that you keep denying are out there are going to show you a lanslide like we have never seen before.
MB
In your dreams. Americans want to win. We are building an island of hope and opportunity in the swamp of terrorism. People can go shopping without fear of being thrown off the skyscraper balconys. Other nations of the region have made it clear they do not want us to leave.
It was a huge mistake for America to have such shallow pukes like Sen Reid and pelosi, then that little twerp Ron Paul Running after the direction they set for his campaign, calling for retreat. Especially because we now see Nancy and Reid covertly going along with staying in Iraq. ITs kind of the new unspoken foriegn policy. It is because we are going to do it, we are going to win the war waged against us. We are not going to surrender, and the polls will change and then bitch slap Ron Paul and his cowardly positions of phony self importance, showing what a complete embarrassment he has made of himself.
Then you and the others will latch onto some other totally different position in sinc with the new polls, just like the left is starting to do. Can't you feel it. Open up, let it in. Its happening right now. The penduleum has swung way to far to the punk-dweeb left, and is now coming back. Watch.
For the record, what is it underpinning your claim that two thirds of the citizens of the United States would vote for defeat? What is motovating them to leave that region in the middle of a war, and let Iran take control? What is it that you think those good Americans would want Iran to have nuclear weapons? All you do is say things, blatent hollow declarations, but you always leave out the underpinning intention or plan. What for?
Madbomber
11-22-2007, 06:31 PM
So, you're still grasping at straws with that false 70% claim. :rotflmbo:
1) Ron Paul has almost no support among Republicans, so he'll be lucky to get as much as 3 or 4 percent of the votes in the Republican primary elections. And that support will only come from the hate-America fringe.
2) Ron Paul is a traitor. The American people will not vote for a traitor.
3) He is even in trouble among voters in his congressional district who, as patriots, strongly support the troops AND their mission and are turning away from Ron Paul.
4) All indications are that he will be retired from public life after the 2008 elections.
It's a good thing that he is getting so many contributions from the hate-America left to provide him with some retirement income.
You keep dreaming the dream. It was your source that backs up the 70% claim not mine. The only claim you have that Ron Paul is a traitor is that he is ready to end the war that we have already won in Iraq. He is not a traitor. You still cant get around the fact that not every conservative is going to agree in lock step with you. You are deluding yourself.
MB
Naturalized-Texan
11-23-2007, 08:29 AM
You keep dreaming the dream. It was your source that backs up the 70% claim not mine. The only claim you have that Ron Paul is a traitor is that he is ready to end the war that we have already won in Iraq. He is not a traitor. You still cant get around the fact that not every conservative is going to agree in lock step with you. You are deluding yourself.
How can you live with yourself lying like that? I never provided any source about your 70% claim.
Ron Paul should change his name to Benedict Arnold since he's helping the terrorists to slaughter tens of millions of innocent American men, women, and children by failing to support our troops in a time of war - a war he voted to declare - and by advocating and voting for surrendering to the terrorists.
You are deluding yourself by pretending that ANY patriotic conservative is supporting or will support Ron Paul. The only "conservatives" who are supporting him are unpatriotic "conservatives," e.g., you.
UnkHiram
11-23-2007, 09:00 AM
You know it's not as much the fact that these Ron Paul Fanatics are supporting a man who would vote to cut off funding to our Troops during a war that bugs me. It's the fact that they are taking this holier than thou attitude about their candidate. If anyone presumes to point out his obvious faults and contridictions they stoop to calling us "names" and saying that we are buying into the "party propaganda".
I try hard to give folks on this board the benefit of the doubt most of the time. The majority of our posters are intelligent and well informed. Even when I disagree with them I can usally get an ideal or two worth pondering out of the discussion. I have enjoyed numerous debates with many of the folks on this boar. Unfortnately, they is not true with the Ron Paul Fanatics. Facts are irrelevant when it comes to Ron Paul, the only thing that matters is what he says, today. You cant even point out the contradictions with what he said 12 years ago when he ran as a Libertarian.
I am growing very weary of this Black and White, Never any Gray, Ron's Way or your idiot attitude that is being presented. Their is NO perfect Republican candidate out there this year, BUT at least the majority of them are Republicans not Libertarians LYING about the Party Preference. If You want to continue to promote CONgressman Paul, I would suggest you start every Post with the following Statement:
I support the Ron Paul, the Candidate LYING about which party he is a member of
Madbomber
11-23-2007, 10:10 AM
You know it's not as much the fact that these Ron Paul Fanatics are supporting a man who would vote to cut off funding to our Troops during a war that bugs me.
Im all for funding the troops, so is Paul, I just want them funded on our borders cutting off the invasion of illegals who pour through our borders like its a seive. The country would be much better served by using our troops to protect our borders than it is by having them play wet nurse in Iraq. We have already won there, let them stand on thier own two feet.
It's the fact that they are taking this holier than thou attitude about their candidate. If anyone presumes to point out his obvious faults and contridictions they stoop to calling us "names" and saying that we are buying into the "party propaganda".
For me it is not a holier than tho attitude, its that I am no longer willing to compromise and take a liberal-lite candidate like the ones cerrently being ramrodded through this election process. what you are dealing with are people who have said "Ive taken all Im going to take and Im not going to take this anymore." That makes for a very stubborn uncompromising lot.
I try hard to give folks on this board the benefit of the doubt most of the time. The majority of our posters are intelligent and well informed. Even when I disagree with them I can usally get an ideal or two worth pondering out of the discussion.
I find this to be the case as well.
I have enjoyed numerous debates with many of the folks on this boar.
Agree.
Unfortnately, they is not true with the Ron Paul Fanatics. Facts are irrelevant when it comes to Ron Paul, the only thing that matters is what he says, today. You cant even point out the contradictions with what he said 12 years ago when he ran as a Libertarian.
Facts are very relevant. Dont think that Ron Paul supporters are the only ones to ignore facts they dont like. Several people on these boards totally disregard facts even after they are pulled from thier own sources. They tend to think that becuase they are such firm believers in a thing that no one else could possibly qualify as a conservative if they dont believe in that thing. Im sick of being called a liberal solely becuase Im satisfied that we have accomplished our goals in Iraq and am now ready to pull the troops out and stop the hemoraging of lives and dollars we have there.
I am growing very weary of this Black and White, Never any Gray, Ron's Way or your idiot attitude that is being presented.
Do you realize that a lot of Pauls supporters are sick of the Black and white attitude on the war in iraq? Either you join us in being a warmonger Or your a liberal traitor pussy. What horseshit.
Their is NO perfect Republican candidate out there this year, BUT at least the majority of them are Republicans not Libertarians LYING about the Party Preference. If You want to continue to promote CONgressman Paul, I would suggest you start every Post with the following Statement:
You are right, there deffinately isnt a perfect candidate. Ron Paul is not perfect either, but as far as Im concerned he will do more to put this country back on the right track than any of the other candidates. Contrary to popular belief he is VERY Conservative. If a liberal is voting for him for a single issue the chances are good that they are in for a rude awakening if he wins. Also, he not lying about being a republican any more than several of the other RINOs at least he is true to what used to be the core principles.
MB
UnkHiram
11-23-2007, 10:24 AM
I all for funding the troops, so is Paul, I just want them funded on our borders cutting off the invasion of illegals who pour through our borders like its a seive. The country would be much better served by using our troops to protect our borders than it is by having them play wet nurse in Iraq. We have already won there, let them stand on thier own two feet.
Bovine Droppings --- Ron Paul Voted to cut off funds to our troops while they were under fire. Spin that anyway you would like but the FACT is that he voted to cut off funding.
For me it is not a holier than tho attitude, its that I am no longer willing to compromise and take a liberal-lite candidate like the ones cerrently being ramrodded through this election process. what you are dealing with are people who have said "Ive taken all Im going to take and Im not going to take this anymore." That makes for a very stubborn uncompromising lot.
Bovine Dropings --- Instead you support a man that votes to cut off funding to our troops, endorsed the Libertarian Platform. Which is for Removing all Drug Laws and Gay Marriage. Paul is not Liberal-Lite he is Liberal.
Do you realize that a lot of Pauls supporters are sick of the Black and white attitude on the war in iraq? Either you join us in being a warmonger Or your a liberal traitor pussy. What horseshit.
Bovine Droppings --- Either you support the Troops or you dont! Paul Does not!
You are right, there deffinately isnt a perfect candidate. Ron Paul is not perfect either, but as far as Im concerned he will do more to put this country back on the right track than any of the other candidates. Contrary to popular belief he is VERY Conservative. If a liberal is voting for him for a single issue the chances are good that they are in for a rude awakening if he wins. Also, he not lying about being a republican any more than several of the other RINOs at least he is true to what used to be the core principles.
Bovine Droppings --- Have you read the Libertarian Platform he endorsed and ran on? Gay Marriage? Drug Legalzation? He is also quoted as being a "Lifelong Libertarian". Was he lying then or now? EIther way he is a Freaking Liar. By the way you left out the mandatory quote for Ron Paul Fanatics!
Naturalized-Texan
11-23-2007, 10:31 AM
Im all for funding the troops, so is Paul, I just want them funded on our borders cutting off the invasion of illegals who pour through our borders like its a seive. The country would be much better served by using our troops to protect our borders than it is by having them play wet nurse in Iraq. We have already won there, let them stand on thier own two feet.
Of course, as Rhino pointed out, it is illegal to send our troops to patrol our borders. However, it is completely legal for our troops to defend the American people in a war that was declared by Congress with Ron Paul's affirmative vote.
The_Elucidator
11-24-2007, 02:30 PM
No use arguing with the idiot! Ron Paul WILL NOT be the nominee; and his analysis of a pro-war candidate losing in a landslide is pure Horsecrap. Book it!
DesertFox
11-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Book it!Do we have to? Can't Danno do that? :question:
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