Ron Paul Blows Away Another Straw Poll

[THEBIRD]

Paul Wins Virginia Straw Poll

Ron Paul vanquished the competition in the annual Virginia GOP retreat straw poll by collecting 182 votes (38%). Despite having former senator George Allen and current Virginia Attorney General Bob McDonnall speaking on his behalf, Fred Thompson managed only 112 votes (23%). While Mike Huckabee, who was represented by his wife, finished a distant third with 51 votes (11%).

Several long-time Republican leaders including conservative icon Morton Blackwell complemented the Paul campaign on their strong organization and mobilization efforts, according to Ron Paul National Field Director Dennis Fusaro, who spoke on Dr. Paul's behalf at the event. Fusaro went on to say that, while this reflects the organizational strength of the Paul campaign around the country, it is essential that Virginia Ron Paul Republicans replicate this turn-out on a county-by-county basis at next year's mass meetings. Fusaro went on to congratulate the grassroots for, once again, coming out to support Dr. Paul in an unprecedented manner.

Virginia GOP Retreat Straw Poll Results:

Ron Paul 182 (38%)
Fred Thompson 112 (23%)
Mike Huckabee 51 (11%)
Rudy Guiliani 45 (9%)
Mitt Romney 43 (9%)
John McCain 23 (5%)
Duncan Hunter 19 (4%)
Tom Tancredo 4 (<1%)

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[The_Elucidator]

Straw polls are as worthless as man boobs!! When Scott Rasmussen says that Ron Paul has 38% of the Primary vote in the Commonwealth of Virginia I will be a believer.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

:yawn: http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/snore000.gif

[THEBIRD]

The way the Paulettes struggle so hard to spin something out of nothing,

Really? You're the one who compared Paul to a child rapist. Who's spinning?

[Eagle1]

Ron Paul Blows (Away Another Straw Poll)

[Madbomber]

They had to cancel the San Fransico Republican's straw poll, Too many Ron Paul supporters showed up. LOL (I didnt know they had republicans in San Fran 8P)

[THEBIRD]

Somebody just called Rush and told him that Ron Paul came in first at his Union straw poll. Edwards came in first on the Dem side.

Dec. 16th and beyond is going to bring about some surprises for a lot of folks.

[The_Elucidator]

Dec. 16th and beyond is going to bring about some surprises for a lot of folks.

Yeah, it's called Christmas!!

Outside of that there isn't much for a Paulian to hang their hat on... Here's hoping that Santa leaves all you Paulians a few Comet or Blitzen nuggets in your stocking and a "Who shot JFK" book under the tree!!!

[Naturalized-Texan]

Dec. 16th and beyond is going to bring about some surprises for a lot of folks.
The surprise will be for you when he finally faces the reality that he hasn't a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the nomination and announces that he is retiring from public life.

[DesertFox]

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[jayson]

The way the Paulettes struggle so hard to spin something out of nothing, really shows the void in his campaign.

Oh, D4R, you are a card.

I sure can't wait until December 16th when we break records.

I also can't wait until the primaries when we show America the polling procedures have failed in getting accurate assessments.

[Rhino]

Republican Presidential Nomination
RCP Average: Giuliani +6.8%

Giuliani 23.6%
Huckabee 16.8%
McCain 13.6%
Thompson 12.4%
Romney 11.8%
Paul 4.6%

Ain't no straws in that poll, except maybe for the ones you guys are grasping at.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html

[The_Elucidator]

I sure can't wait until December 16th when we break records.



Not a chance...

[Madbomber]

Republican Presidential Nomination
RCP Average: Giuliani +6.8%

Giuliani 23.6%
Huckabee 16.8%
McCain 13.6%
Thompson 12.4%
Romney 11.8%
Paul 4.6%

Ain't no straws in that poll, except maybe for the ones you guys are grasping at.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html

Strange thing about polls. "Likely Republican voters" Arent always likey republican voters. If you take into consideration that the rabid following that Ron Paul has, chances are that they will turn out in higher percentages than the regular, meh, /shrug, its primary time, republicans. A very motivated base can magnify the percentage. Add into that that Ron Paul is attracting independants and even some Dems to convert to vote for him, something that none of the other republican nominees are getting and you can see where it is entirely possible to see him getting into the 30% range if not more. But, of course, we will have to let things play out before we know for sure.


Its going to be a very interesting election process this go around.

[Madbomber]

Not a chance...

It is looking like they willl blow the November 5th numbers out of the water. If you look here: http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/ you can see where there are nearly 27000 comminted donators for Dec 16 as opposed to around 18000 that officially signed up for the Nov.5 event. A lot of people are sneaky, like me, and wont sign up for the event but donate of the required date in order to get that surprize effect. Dont be surprize if he nets 7mil+ on Dec 16 which would definately break records.


How come none of the other republicans aren't organizing events like this? Hell the free publicity that it brings is priceless.

[jayson]

How come none of the other republicans aren't organizing events like this?

Lethargic and unexcited supporters.

[Jack_Savage]

Its so obvious when we listen to paul heads looking for any little straw to give even a remote amout of validity to him even being in the race, and to watch as those small expectations fail, and hear them try to make it into something, showing what a void and shallow tent he is operating out of. It begs the question: What are they wasting their time for unless as spoilers, working for Soros? That is the only logical conclusion a sane person would come to. Has anyone seen any passion or ideals from those who pound the paul drum? Of course not. Its anything but that.

[Madbomber]

Its also obvious how much non-Ron Paul supporters want to be able to discount his support and yet cannot show proof that thier own candidates are getting the same if not a higher level of support. The polls which require people to get up off thier fat asses and vote (you know like the actual election) Ron Paul is winning regularly. And the polls that only require you to sit on your fat ass and talk on the phone He isnt winning. (well if you believe them anyway)

If you cant see the obvious ramifications of him winning polls that actually require his people to show up that is your problem.

Like I said its going to be a very interesting election cycle. there is the potential to be some very big surprizes.

[Kathy30]

I've heard that a lot of Paul's money is coming from the Soros crowd.

It's amazing to me. Really. Ron Paul has won every debate, won every straw poll, yet his popularity across the board continues in the single digits. Paul supporters just aren't facing reality, but they are constructing one of their own.

[Naturalized-Texan]

I've heard that a lot of Paul's money is coming from the Soros crowd.
No doubt about it.

It's amazing to me. Really. Ron Paul has won every debate, won every straw poll, yet his popularity across the board continues in the single digits. Paul supporters just aren't facing reality, but they are constructing one of their own.
The only people who think that he has won every debate are the radical Paul-heads. Real people know that he has been demolished in every debate. By the same token, he only wins straw polls among the Paul-heads, but not among real people.

[Madbomber]

I've heard that a lot of Paul's money is coming from the Soros crowd.

It's amazing to me. Really. Ron Paul has won every debate, won every straw poll, yet his popularity across the board continues in the single digits. Paul supporters just aren't facing reality, but they are constructing one of their own.


He has recieved money from over 125,000 different donors just in Q4. Keep discounting him though. Also, he hasnt won every straw poll, just a majority of them.

[Suzie]

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[Lubbock]

I've got a hundred dollars that says I could run a poll that would put my Boxer pup in first place, leading the pack for the nomination of either party. Or both.

[garlicguy]

I've heard that a lot of Paul's money is coming from the Soros crowd. :dunce1:

No doubt about it. :deadhorse:

Amazing! Effect and cause right before our eyes!!!

That settles it then. It MUST be truth. :roar::roar::rotflmbo:

gg :cowboy:

[TeenageRepublican]

I've got a hundred dollars that say I could run a poll that would put my Boxer pup in first place, leading the pack for the nomination of either party. Or both.

I could see that. Dogs are man's best friend. Hillary is man's worst fear.

[Madbomber]

I've got a hundred dollars that say I could run a poll that would put my Boxer pup in first place, leading the pack for the nomination of either party. Or both.


That is kind of the point isnt it. Polls that require no effort by the person polled can be manipulated. It wouldnt surprize me in the least to find out that NONE of the polls are accurate. The thing is though, polls that require action are probably closer to the truth in that the actual election will require action. People that are highly motivated will be there. People that are marginally motivated might be there.

[Naturalized-Texan]

From the video that Suzie posted we see that Ron Paul and his Paul-heads are in bed with the IslamoFascist terrorists. No surprise there. I've known that all along.

That explains why Ron Paul is opposed to fighting fascists - he doesn't see fascists as his enemies.

[Madbomber]

It is a nice bit of neo-con propaganda isnt it.

[The_Elucidator]

It is a nice bit of neo-con propaganda isnt it.

Truth is a bitch; eh scooter? :rolleyes:

[Suzie]

And the cast and characters on the view :love: Ron Paul. If that doesn't scare you nothing will.

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[Jack_Savage]

Anyone ever wonder why the Paulies are here posting instead of at moveon.org or the Democrat forums? Its because their trying to spoil the election to get Hillary in. Nobody, and that means everyone knows Ron Pauls candidacy is not about him getting elected to anything.

So it time for his troops to start addressing that issue. What in the hell are you doing anyway? What is the purpose of all your efforts. Unless your genuinly stupid, thinking this is some contribution to something? Is that the case?

[The_Elucidator]

So it time for his troops to start addressing that issue. What in the hell are you doing anyway? What is the purpose of all your efforts. Unless your genuinly stupid, thinking this is some contribution to something? Is that the case?

They will tell you they are tired of the "establishment" and they are doing this on principle. But most (not all) are willing to gloss over his Code Pink anti war stance that is killing our troops, so they are either dupes or have nefarious intentions, either way they can't and shouldn't be taken seriously... :shame:

[THEBIRD]

Anyone ever wonder why the Paulies are here posting instead of at moveon.org or the Democrat forums? Its because their trying to spoil the election to get Hillary in. Nobody, and that means everyone knows Ron Pauls candidacy is not about him getting elected to anything.

So it time for his troops to start addressing that issue. What in the hell are you doing anyway? What is the purpose of all your efforts. Unless your genuinly stupid, thinking this is some contribution to something? Is that the case?


I'd rather vote for a third party candidate and put Hillary in the White House then hold my nose and vote for a gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician like Rudy.

And then hopefully send a message to the GOP, "If you ever want to win an election again, DON'T RUN RINO'S"

[Jack_Savage]

I'd rather vote for a third party candidate and put Hillary in the White House then hold my nose and vote for a gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician like Rudy.

And then hopefully send a message to the GOP, "If you ever want to win an election again, DON'T RUN RINO'S"

Exactly. You'd rather do that than anything else. Thats your number one objective. Not because of Rudy or anyone else, its the objective, always has been, all the silly reasons you use are just convenient excuses.

Man, its good we finally got that one out in the open. Hey, Jason, GG and Madbomber, come on out of the closet. Its time to get up in front of the group and admit your all spoilaholics. Self absorbed addictive ego's pure and simple.

[The_Elucidator]

I'd rather vote for a third party candidate and put Hillary in the White House then hold my nose and vote for a gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician like Rudy.

And then hopefully send a message to the GOP, "If you ever want to win an election again, DON'T RUN RINO'S"

Got news for ya scooter; being anti-GWOT makes RP a RINO!! :rolleyes:

[Seabee]

I'd rather vote for a third party candidate and put Hillary in the White House then hold my nose and vote for a gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician like Rudy.

Cmon Sparky, let's explore your definition of Guliani and Clinton and see how they stack up.

Guliani: gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician.

Clinton: gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician, universal health care giving, submitting to the Middle East, handing the U.S. over to the globalist U.N. on a silver platter, welfare state loving, political correctness shaman of a bitch. I am sure there are many more that could be added.

Wow, you swayed me to understand your opinion, Guliani is sooooo much worse than Hitlery. How could I have missed it? Damn!!! I am an idiot.

[THEBIRD]

Cmon Sparky, let's explore your definition of Guliani and Clinton and see how they stack up.

Guliani: gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician.

Clinton: gun grabbing, tax robbing, wife cheating, baby killing politician, universal health care giving, submitting to the Middle East, handing the U.S. over to the globalist U.N. on a silver platter, welfare state loving, political correctness shaman of a bitch. I am sure there are many more that could be added.

Wow, you swayed me to understand your opinion, Guliani is sooooo much worse than Hitlery. How could I have missed it? Damn!!! I am an idiot.


Right SeaBee, You're voting for the lesser of two evils. I won't do that anymore. I voted for Bush twice and instead of a Conservative Cowboy, I got a Globalist Care Bear.

I won't give my vote anymore to someone who is 100% opposite from my main views.

[Naturalized-Texan]

I won't give my vote anymore to someone who is 100% opposite from my main views.
But you would give your vote to a former Reagan conservative who sold his soul to the hate-America/pro-terrorist left to raise funds for his imminent retirement. I'm referring, of course, to that traitor, Ron Paul.

[Seabee]

I won't give my vote anymore to someone who is 100% opposite from my main views.


Don't plan on voting much in the near future then do you?

[Timberwolf]

Don't plan on voting much in the near future then do you?
Not unless the GOP pulls its head out of its collective ass and learns a lesson from the Gingrich revolution of 1994 and begins to run CONSERVATIVE candidates.

[Jack_Savage]

The one question that is yet to be answered is, is what are the Paul-Pimps doing it for? They know he cannot win, thats a given, yet they continue to blabber on and on about how bad everone else is. What is it they get out of doing that???

[Timberwolf]

There was no way Bush was gonna beat Gore...or sKerry, for that matter. Don't count him out....yet.

[Seabee]

Not unless the GOP pulls its head out of its collective ass and learns a lesson from the Gingrich revolution of 1994 and begins to run CONSERVATIVE candidates.

Agreed, but trying to find a candidate that espouses 100% of your main views is utterly ridiculous. If everyone felt this way no one would vote. I loved Reagan but I did not adhere to 100% of his views. But I still think he was the greatest President of the 20th Cnetury.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Not unless the GOP pulls its head out of its collective ass and learns a lesson from the Gingrich revolution of 1994 and begins to run CONSERVATIVE candidates.
But birdbrain, oops, THEBIRD, would still vote for a candidate who promises to work to secure America's defeat in World War IV - the War on Terror.

[DoctorDoom]

Not unless the GOP pulls its head out of its collective ass and learns a lesson from the Gingrich revolution of 1994 and begins to run CONSERVATIVE candidates.In the world of realpolitik, idealism is in the back seat. When the Pub voters, gven a choice between real conservatives and "moderates"/RINOs, continue to vote for the "moderates"/RINOs in the primaries, it is not at all surprising that the GOP soon starts offering "moderates" and RINOs as the standard fare.

The market prevails.

IAC, after having seen what happened to the Gingrich Revolution after a few years in power, one wonders if the GOP really grasps what having control means. And the Pubs seem willing to eat their own in order to suck up to the DBM and the RATs. Newt himself was a victim of the RAT-ass-kissers .

When the GOP learns that being nice is suicidal in DC, and that the only way to survive and prosper is to be ready to sink razor-sharp fangs into RAT jugulars at the first sign of weakness or error, the RATs will retain control even if there is only one of them in Congress.