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THEBIRD
12-14-2007, 08:11 AM
This is one infantry vet who will be voting for a Conservative...not a Globalist.

Notice THAT HE SAYS HE PUSHED FOR A DECLARATION OF WAR IN IRAQ!!!
He opposes this invasion because like most things....our current president doesn't do things by the rule book (Constitution).

The below was sent out in South Carolina and he is now beating McCain and Thompson in the polls there.:thumb:

http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul%20sc%20mail%201.jpg
http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul%20sc%20mail%202.jpg

The_Elucidator
12-14-2007, 09:14 AM
<CENTER>Voted NO on approving removal of Saddam & valiant service of US troops.

</CENTER>States that the House of Representatives:

affirms that the United States and the world have been made safer with the removal of Saddam Hussein and his regime from power in Iraq;
commends the Iraqi people for their courage in the face of unspeakable oppression and brutality inflicted on them by Saddam Hussein's regime;
commends the Iraqi people on the adoption of Iraq's interim constitution; and
commends the members of the U.S. Armed Forces and Coalition forces for liberating Iraq and expresses its gratitude for their valiant service.
<CENTER>Reference: War in Iraq Anniversary resolution; Bill H Res 557 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.res.00557:) ; vote number 2004-64 (http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2004&rollnumber=064) on Mar 17, 2004 </CENTER><CENTER> </CENTER>The Truth about Rupaul (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_War_+_Peace.htm)

THEBIRD
12-14-2007, 09:20 AM
Not the same as a Declaration of War....sorry.

What you posted above is the politically correct version of a declaration by our globalist president.

Jack_Savage
12-14-2007, 09:23 AM
<CENTER>Voted NO on approving removal of Saddam & valiant service of US troops.

</CENTER>States that the House of Representatives:

affirms that the United States and the world have been made safer with the removal of Saddam Hussein and his regime from power in Iraq;
commends the Iraqi people for their courage in the face of unspeakable oppression and brutality inflicted on them by Saddam Hussein's regime;
commends the Iraqi people on the adoption of Iraq's interim constitution; and
commends the members of the U.S. Armed Forces and Coalition forces for liberating Iraq and expresses its gratitude for their valiant service.
<CENTER>Reference: War in Iraq Anniversary resolution; Bill H Res 557 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.res.00557:) ; vote number 2004-64 (http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2004&rollnumber=064) on Mar 17, 2004 </CENTER><CENTER></CENTER>The Truth about Rupaul (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_War_+_Peace.htm)


They just can't face the truth. I understand it, if they did nothing they say would make sense, which it doesnt. It would be so much easier for them if Rupaul was not Rupaul. But every day, he becomes more and more like Rupaul.

THEBIRD
12-14-2007, 09:24 AM
Besides how idiotic is it to think that somehow we and our troops are going to bring peace to a place in the world that has never really experience it.

Paul is all for attacking nations that pose a threat to us....but to station troops in Iraq for the next 30 years is not going to do any good for the region that has been at war since the beginning of time.

PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST

Its never going to happen....trust me, I've read the book.

Wyatt_Junker
12-14-2007, 09:30 AM
http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul%20sc%20mail%201.jpg
http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul%20sc%20mail%202.jpg

The only thing missing on this Kinko's special is a bald eagle, the face of George Washinton and Dog the Bounty Hunter without a shirt.

Ron Paul Supports Our Troops

If it has to be said....

Elgalad
12-14-2007, 09:40 AM
This is one infantry vet who will be voting for a Conservative...not a Globalist.

This is one Marine Corps veteran who will be fulfilling his Oath to Protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and Domestic by voting against a naive liberal isolationist who has absolutely no comprehension of foreign policy or the threat posed by Global Terrorism whatsoever (Ron Paul), and instead will vote for an honest Conservative candidate who understands the direct correlation between national security and the proper application of military force that is required to preserve it.

Notice THAT HE SAYS HE PUSHED FOR A DECLARATION OF WAR IN IRAQ!!!
He opposes this invasion because like most things....our current president doesn't do things by the rule book (Constitution).

Notice THAT HE VOTED FOR THE USE OF FORCE AFTER 9/11 BEFORE HE REALIZED HE NEEDED TO CURRY THE LIBERAL VOTE BY DEMONSTRATING HIS CAPACITY TO SURRENDER TO CODE PINK!!! He opposes fighting our nation's enemies and instead pursues a policy of peace at any cost because unlike our current President and every Republican candidate for President 2008....he has absolutely no real understanding of the rule book (the Constitution) and how it mandates the chief Executive to preserve national security.

The below was sent out in South Carolina and he is now beating McCain and Thompson in the polls there.:thumb:

http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul%20sc%20mail%201.jpg
http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul%20sc%20mail%202.jpg

This below link is an actual link to a real poll taken today in South Carolina where the reality demonstrates Huckabee and Thompson are leading, McCain is in 5th place while...

Ron Paul is in 7th place. :smirky:

S.C. poll: Huckabee bolts to top of GOP; Obama cuts into Clinton lead (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/14/sc-poll-huckabee-bolts-to-top-of-gop-obama-cuts-into-clinton-lead/)

Nice Try.

Actually, I take that back.

Pretty pathetic try. :rolleyes:



-Elgalad

Wyatt_Junker
12-14-2007, 10:30 AM
Ron Paul Supports Our Troops

And jockstraps support the privates also.

Madbomber
12-14-2007, 10:34 AM
Ron Paul is up to 11% even in the MSM polls now? Sounds like good news to me. Its going to be very interesting this election cycle. A lot of people are going to be surprized, just dont know who yet.

Sarah
12-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Ron Paul is up to 11% even in the MSM polls now? Sounds like good news to me. Its going to be very interesting this election cycle. A lot of people are going to be surprized, just dont know who yet.
Don't get your hopes up. The man plans to do away with the IRS, they'll have him rubbed out if it looks like he has a chance.

MarlinsFan
12-14-2007, 10:48 AM
Hopefully, Ron doesn't run as a third party candidate. If his stance on the war on terror were different, he would be an ideal candidate, much more than liberals like Huckabee and anti-gun Rudy.

THEBIRD
12-14-2007, 11:53 AM
Hopefully, Ron doesn't run as a third party candidate. If his stance on the war on terror were different, he would be an ideal candidate, much more than liberals like Huckabee and anti-gun Rudy.

Um...he voted for the War on Terror and to tackle Afghanistan for their protection of terrorist involved in the 9/11 attack. He is not against defending this nation...he is very much for it.

MarlinsFan
12-14-2007, 12:00 PM
What is going on Iraq now is very much part of the war on terror.

The_Elucidator
12-14-2007, 12:29 PM
Not the same as a Declaration of War....sorry.

What you posted above is the politically correct version of a declaration by our globalist president.

Actually it was nothing more that a resolution recognizing the troops and saying that Iraq is better off without Saddam. It was during the 2nd Session of the 108th Congress in 2004... :smirky:

Again, nice try! If he is supporting the troops, voting no is a hell of a way to show his "appreciation."

Naturalized-Texan
12-14-2007, 03:50 PM
Ron Paul Supports Our Troops by advocating policies that will get more of them killed.

Madbomber
12-14-2007, 04:42 PM
Ron Paul Supports Our Troops by advocating policies that will get more of them killed.


You are finally learning sarcasm. :claps:

Timberwolf
12-14-2007, 10:31 PM
That wasn't sarcasm, that was the truth.

It is the one reason I won't vote for the man.

Naturalized-Texan
12-15-2007, 09:22 AM
Ron Paul Supports Our Troops by repeatedly voting to get more of them killed.

Suzie
12-15-2007, 09:39 AM
Ron Paul Supports Our Troops by repeatedly voting to get more of them killed.

Only after he himself asks them to step forward. His idea of support is equal to telling them to go run thru that mine field and if they ask for a mine sweeper he shoots them in the back.

Maggie_T
12-15-2007, 10:41 AM
Ron Paul Supports Our Troops


Oh, puh-lee-ze! :rolleyes:

BIRD, demunists profess to support the troops, too. Even the most knee-jerk peacenik "supports the troops."

That's what they SAY. What they DO in lieu of support is a totally different matter. And it is far from supportive.

C'mon, man. Don't be naive. Rupaul and his ilk support the troops as long as the troops stay at home twiddling their thumbs. Once they are out in the field, their "supporters" immediately get angsty and do their best to undermine our troops' mission(s).

And please spare us the tiresome, self-righteous "he's a soldier/Marine/Veteran/etc. and he's against the war in Iraq."

Kerry is a veteran. Murtha is a veteran. Even Algore is a veteran. And we all know about them.

Nice try, mate. But we've heard it all before. And it wasn't convincing then, either.



Sheesh. One born every minute.

DesertFox
12-15-2007, 10:43 AM
There are plenty a reasons I won't vote for Paul, but the main one is that he's a flake and I don't want a flake running MY country.

Maggie_T
12-15-2007, 10:53 AM
You are finally learning sarcasm. :claps:

Good. Now it's your turn to finally learn to spell.

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"Surprised" carries a second 's', not a 'z.' And you seem to be oblivious of the existence apostrophes and all that.

MB, this website offers spell check. It was installed especially for people with your tendency to "creative" spelling.

When you get your Reply window, look on the upper righ hand, over the smilies. The logo for spell check is ABC with a check underneath. I strongly advise you to use it.

It's bad enough that we have to endure your, ah, "curious" ideas. At least, spare us your atrocious spelling. :rolleyes:

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 12:33 PM
Good. Now it's your turn to finally learn to spell.



"Surprised" carries a second 's', not a 'z.' And you seem to be oblivious of the existence apostrophes and all that.

MB, this website offers spell check. It was installed especially for people with your tendency to "creative" spelling.

When you get your Reply window, look on the upper righ hand, over the smilies. The logo for spell check is ABC with a check underneath. I strongly advise you to use it.

It's bad enough that we have to endure your, ah, "curious" ideas. At least, spare us your atrocious spelling. :rolleyes:


I leave the bad spelling in so that people with no good arguement or logic will have a leg to stand on. Pointing out bad spelling is always the first sign of an emotional responder that cant find a better way to support his "logic" than attacking the writer.


No wut eye meen?

Maggie_T
12-15-2007, 03:25 PM
I leave the bad spelling in so that people with no good arguement or logic will have a leg to stand on. Pointing out bad spelling is always the first sign of an emotional responder that cant find a better way to support his "logic" than attacking the writer.


Oh, stop it, MB. :rolleyes: That's the typical excuse the semi-illiterate give when their bad spelling is point out to them.

And if you call your repeating lefty, anti-war bumper sticker slogans "making an argument" (please notice correct spelling) and "using logic," then there's really no hope for you.

Oh, and MB? I see that you threw in the E word willy-nilly again. Well, let me tell you a) I don't give a damn, b) your calling me emotional does not mean that I am. But if it makes you feel bigger and better, by all means, be my guest.

Sheesh. You try to help some people and this is what you get for your trouble.

TeenageRepublican
12-15-2007, 03:45 PM
I leave the bad spelling in so that people with no good arguement or logic will have a leg to stand on. Pointing out bad spelling is always the first sign of an emotional responder that cant find a better way to support his "logic" than attacking the writer.


No wut eye meen?

No, I don't know what you mean. Bad spelling is asking for it on a political board.
My writing group wouldn't even consider you a writer with the way your writing. They would come down on you faster than Bill Clinton came down on Monica the first time he saw her.
FC and the writing group (if you haven't figured it out) does not tolerate that kind of crap. It's one thing if you do bad spelling by accident and it doesn't happen often. It's another thing if you do it on purpose.

Timberwolf
12-15-2007, 04:06 PM
I leave the bad spelling in so that people with no good arguement or logic will have a leg to stand on. Pointing out bad spelling is always the first sign of an emotional responder that cant find a better way to support his "logic" than attacking the writer.


No wut eye meen?
Know. Axually its a whey two point out how rediculusly ignernt won soundz win won repeetedly spelz rong.

Nohting mor, nothing less...

THEBIRD
12-15-2007, 04:24 PM
MAggie....I don't totally agree with Ron Paul on the war on terror....but I absolutely agree with everything else he believes in like spending, arming the border, 2nd Amendment, taxes, education, power of government, abortion, and others. Those are conservative views that liberals like Kennedy hate.

The war on terror is NOT the most important issue. America (or any other country) is never going to bring peace to the middle east so why try?

Even if we did, what good will it do to elect someone like Thompson or Rudy who will continue the war in Iraq and if we continue to lose battles at home like the war on Eminant Domain, or the border, or the 2nd Amendment for pete's sake?

Bush Sucks on all those issues. He is ignoring the border and the eminant domain issues and he said he would have signed the assault weapons ban if congress would have brought it to his desk.

I WON'T VOTE FOR ANOTHER GLOBALIST....EVER!!!! :flame:

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 04:25 PM
Oh, stop it, MB. :rolleyes: That's the typical excuse the semi-illiterate give when their bad spelling is point out to them.

And if you call your repeating lefty, anti-war bumper sticker slogans "making an argument" (please notice correct spelling) and "using logic," then there's really no hope for you.

Oh, and MB? I see that you threw in the E word willy-nilly again. Well, let me tell you a) I don't give a damn, b) your calling me emotional does not mean that I am. But if it makes you feel bigger and better, by all means, be my guest.

Sheesh. You try to help some people and this is what you get for your trouble.


You make it sound like I actually care what you think of me. Trust me I dont. Not worrying about what others think and just doing the right thing is what has made me successful in real life, I see no reason to try any harder to impress people that mean nothing to me on a message board. please. Oh and you arent trying to help, its thinly veiled condescension in an attempt to try and make yourself look superior, and Im not biting. I might spell like shit (and always have) but Im successful where it counts, and thats good enough for me. (even if it does cheese off spelling Nazis which is also fun in itself)

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 04:26 PM
No, I don't know what you mean. Bad spelling is asking for it on a political board.
My writing group wouldn't even consider you a writer with the way your writing. They would come down on you faster than Bill Clinton came down on Monica the first time he saw her.
FC and the writing group (if you haven't figured it out) does not tolerate that kind of crap. It's one thing if you do bad spelling by accident and it doesn't happen often. It's another thing if you do it on purpose.


Junior, I couldnt give a shit really.

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 04:27 PM
Know. Axually its a whey two point out how rediculusly ignernt won soundz win won repeetedly spelz rong.

Nohting mor, nothing less...

Exaxelee..... Maybee.:rotflmbo:


Actually, most of the spelling errors are typos, Im a busy person, Im not really worried what it looks like. Ive never been much of the secretarial type.

Sarah
12-15-2007, 04:29 PM
You make it sound like I actually care what you think of me. Trust me I dont. Not worrying about what others think and just doing the right thing is what has made me successful in real life, I see no reason to try any harder to impress people that mean nothing to me on a message board. please. Oh and you arent trying to help, its thinly veiled condescension in an attempt to try and make yourself look superior, and Im not biting. I might spell like shit (and always have) but Im successful where it counts, and thats good enough for me. (even if it does cheese off spelling Nazis which is also fun in itself)
If you use firefox or opera they have spelling checkers.

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 04:31 PM
If you use firefox or opera they have spelling checkers.


If everything was done right they wouldnt have anything to whine about. Let them have thier small pleasures right?

Naturalized-Texan
12-15-2007, 05:11 PM
If you use firefox or opera they have spelling checkers.
If he were educated enough to know how to spell, he would be able to think for himself and wouldn't be here parroting the left-wing-media Big Lie Propaganda about World War IV - the War on Terror.

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 06:36 PM
If he were educated enough to know how to spell, he would be able to think for himself and wouldn't be here parroting the left-wing-media Big Lie Propaganda about World War IV - the War on Terror.

LOL Does it annoy you Texxie?

At least I know there have only been 2 World Wars. You cant say that can you? :roar:


LOL World War 5, War on Texan's Hemorrhoids!!

Elgalad
12-15-2007, 08:05 PM
LOL Does it annoy you Texxie?

At least I know there have only been 2 World Wars. You cant say that can you? :roar:


LOL World War 5, War on Texan's Hemorrhoids!!

I won't speak for NT or anyone else you've felt obliged to personally attack, but you annoy Me.

Do you honestly believe that your puerile behavior here will convince anyone that your candidate has merit?

You are a classic example of the sort of followers Ron Paul is attracting to his campaign, and it's absolutely no wonder at all that his political future is swiftly plummeting towards oblivion.

But don't let me stop you now. I'd hate to get in between a True Believer and his ultimate destiny..

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-Elgalad

Sarah
12-15-2007, 08:10 PM
^^ Love that movie!

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 08:12 PM
I won't speak for NT or anyone else you've felt obliged to personally attack, but you annoy Me.

Do you honestly believe that your puerile behavior here will convince anyone that your candidate has merit?

You are a classic example of the sort of followers Ron Paul is attracting to his campaign, and it's absolutely no wonder at all that his political future is swiftly plummeting towards oblivion.

But don't let me stop you now. I'd hate to get in between a True Believer and his ultimate destiny..


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-Elgalad

Attack the messenger. That is fine. You have no recourse for the message though do you?

Beowulf
12-15-2007, 08:18 PM
Let them have thier small pleasures right?

I before E, except after C!!

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 08:19 PM
I before E, except after C!!

Dont tell anyone /wink. :evilgrin:

Elgalad
12-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Attack the messenger. That is fine. You have no recourse for the message though do you?

No need to attack you, you're doing plenty of damage to yourself as it is. :smirky:

As for your message.. you have yet to come up with one.

Other than that you love your fuehrer candidate.

Already got that. Anything else? :listen:



-Elgalad

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 08:34 PM
No need to attack you, you're doing plenty of damage to yourself as it is. :smirky:

As for your message.. you have yet to come up with one.

Other than that you love your fuehrer candidate.

Already got that. Anything else? :listen:



-Elgalad

HAHA. Ok you keep thinking that from mama's basement. All Im doing is poking holes in people's *indisputable* logic.

Elgalad
12-15-2007, 08:56 PM
HAHA. Ok you keep thinking that from mama's basement. All Im doing is poking holes in people's *indisputable* logic.

Oh, that's what you call it. I see now. Very well, indulge yourself. :smirky:



-Elgalad






**Psst, this is for all the rest of you..**
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5524/2002pooflingmonkeyxs7.jpg

Naturalized-Texan
12-15-2007, 08:57 PM
The Paulbots keep proving their ignorance of history. Of course, their Fuhrer candidate is also.

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 08:59 PM
Oh, that's what you call it. I see now. Very well, indulge yourself. :smirky:



-Elgalad






**Psst, this is for all the rest of you..**
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5524/2002pooflingmonkeyxs7.jpg


HAHA. Ok Ill admit it. That was good. could almost smell the crap on the screen. Doesnt do much in discounting an argument though. Still it was funny.

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 09:01 PM
The Paulbots keep proving their ignorance of history. Of course, their Fuhrer candidate is also.

Did you have something to say Neuterized-texan?

Gonzo67
12-15-2007, 10:49 PM
Do you little Ron Paul Fan-Boys know anything about your man? I understand you are quite used to "following the crowd", and I don't fault you for it. It's not your fault. I'm quite aware that all Ron Paul followers share a single brain, and I'm not sure which one of you have custody of it tonight. But let's just take a look at your candidate shall we?

Ron Paul:

According to his lackies...

"Ron Paul's message of freedom, peace, and prosperity resonates with Americans from all walks of life," said Ron Paul 2008 spokesman Jesse Benton. "The American people are ready to unite behind the principles of freedom on which this nation was founded."

Ron Paul is a medical doctor who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He is a military veteran and ten-term congressman, and is also the leading advocate for freedom in our nation's capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for a strong national defense, limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies.

(Source: Ron Paul 2008.com (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/70/ron-paul-addresses-hispanic-voters-in-miami-debate/))

So, "Dr. Paul" makes it known he's delivered over 4,000 babies. He must surely be devoted to ending abortions in America... his voting record proves that...

Abortion Pain Bill
Bill Number: HR 6099

Vote to suspend the rules and pass a bill that outlines several protocols that abortion providers must follow before performing an abortion on a fetus/unborn child that is 20 or more weeks into development.

- Requires the physician to provide the woman with the following information or material:
the approximate age of the fetus/unborn child
the “Unborn Child Pain Awareness Brochure”
the possibility that drugs administered to the mother may not prevent pain for the fetus/unborn child
risks and costs associated with the use of pain-reducing drugs

-Requires the “Unborn Child Pain Awareness Brochure” to state that evidence exists suggesting fetuses/unborn children 20 weeks or more into development are capable of experiencing pain, and that the woman may request pain-reducing drugs for the fetus/unborn child, and that there may be additional risks associated with the use of some pain-reducing drugs

Ron Paul: Declined To Vote

Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act
Bill Number: HR 748

Vote to pass a bill that prohibits the transportation of a minor across state lines to obtain an abortion without the consent of a parent or legal guardian.

- Allows for exemptions to the law if the life of the minor is in danger or if a court in the minor's home state waive the parental notification required by that state

- Allocates fines and/or up to one year imprisonment of those convicted of transporting a minor over state lines to have an abortion

- Penalizes doctors who knowingly perform an abortion procedure without obtaining reasonable proof that the notification provisions of the minor's home state have been satisfied

- Requires abortion providers in states that do not have parental consent laws and who would be performing the procedure on a minor that resides in another state, to give at least a 24 hour notice to the parent or legal guardian

- Permits any parent or legal guardian to pursue civil action against those who violate parental notification laws

- Specifies that neither the minor nor her guardians may be prosecuted or sued for a violation of this act

Ron Paul: Voted NO

Child Custody Protection Act
Bill Number: HR 1218

Vote to pass a bill that criminalizes the act of transporting a minor across state lines to avoid parental notification laws and obtain access to abortion services.

- Allows for exemptions to the law if the life of the minor is in danger or if a court in the minor's home state waives the parental notification required by that state

- Allocates up to $100,000 in fines and/or up to one year imprisonment of those convicted of transporting a minor over state lines to have an abortion

- Allows any parent or guardian to pursue civil action against those who violate parental notification laws

- Specifies that neither the minor nor her guardians may be prosecuted or sued for a violation of this act

Ron Paul: Voted NO

Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2001
Bill Number: HR 503

Vote to pass a bill that criminalizes harming an unborn child/fetus while committing any of 68 federal offenses.

- Defines “unborn child” as: a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb

- Treats woman and unborn child/fetus as separate victims

- Exempts doctors who perform abortions and other medical treatments from prosecution

- Prescribes sentencing guideline of up to life in prison if convicted of intentionally terminating a pregnancy

Ron Paul: Voted NO

Motherhood Protection Act (Substitute Amendment)
Bill Number: HR 503

Vote to adopt a substitute amendment that assigns additional punishment for violence committed against a pregnant woman that interrupts or terminates her pregnancy.

- Defines crime in terms of effect on woman's pregnancy, not in terms of effect on unborn child/fetus

- Exempts legal abortions

- Prescribes sentencing guideline of up to 20 years' imprisonment for acts that cause pre-natal injury

- Prescribes sentencing guideline of up to life in prison for acts that cause termination of the pregnancy

Ron Paul: Voted NO

While Ron Paul has done a fair job of voting against things like Partial Birth Abortions and other high profile points, he falls utterly short at actually CARING for the welfare of pregnant teens and their unborn babies by giving them to the "go ahead" to just skipping over state lines to get their abortions.

Clearly the man doesn't want Abortions in his own back yard, but has no problem with them being done in MY back yard. In fact, he's clearly stated he prefers the abortions to be done in MY back yard.

There's plenty to criticize him for...

Ron Paul On Latin America:
"Let me tell you why we have a problem in South America and Central America: because we've been involved in their internal affairs for so long. We have been meddling in their business."

(Source: Ron Paul 2008.com (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/70/ron-paul-addresses-hispanic-voters-in-miami-debate/))

Yeah... you're right Ron... The problems in Latin America are all OUR fault.

You Ron paul supporters fail to see how he plays both sides. But that's ok. Remain blind. Remain loyal to him. He's going no where and he's getting there fast. He could use the company. It's a long walk back, hope ya got good shoes.

Madbomber
12-15-2007, 11:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSuHq_TvTI

Learn it. Love it. Live it.

Sarah
12-15-2007, 11:12 PM
So Paul is two faced.

THEBIRD
12-15-2007, 11:19 PM
Totally stupid....Like the war in Iraq...those bills as he has stated in the past had unconstitutional merit rolled into them.

Paul is very clear that he would do whatever it takes to end abortion in the United States. Doctors who perform abortion are murderers....not my words...his. He has always, always held this view.


I think its funny that you are doing whatever it takes to attempt to destroy the man. The fact that main stream GOP lackies hate him so much, lets me know that I'm on the right track with voting for him.

The GOP is currently led by a liberal and whomever they are for...I'm against...same as the democrats. There is no difference between them anymore.

Gonzo67
12-16-2007, 12:03 AM
Totally stupid....Like the war in Iraq...those bills as he has stated in the past had unconstitutional merit rolled into them.


They had "unconstitutional merit" rolled into them because HE said. Just as he's ahead in all these polls because HE says he is. You're a parrot, unable to think for yourself. YOU read the bills and ask yourself WHY he voted no. Don't rely on what HE tells you. Look it up for yourself. Do you need HIM to read everything for you?


Paul is very clear that he would do whatever it takes to end abortion in the United States.


Sure he has... like making it illegal for people to transport underage children over state lines to give them an abortion without parental consent... oh... wait... he didn't vote to make that a crime did he...

Well SURELY he wants to protect the unborn by making it a crime to kill an unborn child by victimizing a pregnant woman. Charging the CRIMINAL with both a crime against the woman, and a crime against the unborn child she's carrying... oh... wait... Ron doesn't care about that... hmmmm....

Yeah, he's a champion of the unborn alright.


I think its funny that you are doing whatever it takes to attempt to destroy the man.


I'm not doing a thing to destroy the man. He casted them votes on his own, without my help. How ever, I'm flattered that you think I have that much power that I can force you're presidential sugar daddy to cast those votes. Thank you! :)


The fact that main stream GOP lackies hate him so much, lets me know that I'm on the right track with voting for him.


And what have I ever said that could lead anyone to believe that I am a "main stream GOP Lackey"? LOL I think 99% of my posts have loudly stated otherwise.

But, the fact that a Ron Paul Zombie believes he's "on the right track with voting for HIM" just lends weight to the belief that the majority of the "main stream GOP lackeys" might know what they are talking about.


The GOP is currently led by a liberal and whomever they are for...I'm against...same as the democrats. There is no difference between them anymore.


That is the first accurate comment you have made... You are for Ron Paul simply because the majority of the Republicans do not like him... Just like a Democrat. Yes, You're absolutely right... there is no difference between Ron Paulites and Democrats. You've finally admitted your illness... you're on the road to recovery... good luck.

THEBIRD
12-16-2007, 12:27 AM
WE all know that "extras" get rolled into these bills sometimes. Its how you poison them. I guess you don't spend time talking to legsilators like I do.

Oh and all the polls on his site have a source....look them up. I can't hold your hand with everything. You've got to grow up eventually.

Naturalized-Texan
12-16-2007, 08:26 AM
Ron Paul is a master at the art of Big Lie Propaganda. He has learned his lessons well at the feet of that master propagandist, Josef Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda and the originator of the Big Lie Propaganda technique - if you tell a big enough lie often enough, people will begin to believe it.

The Paulbots are so ill-informed that they have been easy prey to Ron Paul's Big Lie Propaganda.

UnkHiram
12-16-2007, 08:30 AM
Ron Paul voted to cut off Funding to our troops while they are being fired at. My only question is WHOSE troops is Ron Paul supporting cause it sure as hades isn't American Troops!

The_Elucidator
12-17-2007, 08:45 AM
Nice research Gonzo... Spot on!! No excuse for voting against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act... ZERO!!

Nutrider99
12-17-2007, 09:04 AM
Totally stupid....Like the war in Iraq...
What's stupid about fighting our enemies on their turf rather than in our city streets? Do you even know who the enemy is that we're fighting over there? Do you even have a clue what would happen if America abandoned Iraq now?
The GOP is currently led by a liberal and whomever they are for...

Bush is center-right. You don't really know much about politics, do you?