Sunday Sunday Sunday!!!!

[THEBIRD]

Sunday is almost here and that means the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party!

The website at www.teaparty07.com (http://www.teaparty07.com) is boasting tens of thousands of online pledges for tomorrow Sunday the 16th! Meet up groups all over the Union are planning on hitting the streets and passing out information about Ron Paul.

I'll be donating my $100 in the morning before my family heads out to church. A number of folks from my Sunday school class are also donating on Sunday so I know what the disscussion will mostly be about when we get there to Sunday school.

Looking forward to the headlines that will give another shot in the arm to the Paul campaign when it comes to name recognition.

Get ready folks!!!!

:claps::claps:

[Madbomber]

Im waiting til the last minute for that extra little push. I also didnt sign up for it, would rather there be a big surprize, dont like telegraphing my moves and all.

[THEBIRD]

Im waiting til the last minute for that extra little push. I also didnt sign up for it, would rather there be a big surprize, dont like telegraphing my moves and all.

I didn't pledge either...how many more thousands are like us? :thumb:

[Beowulf]

Heh! Isn't it ironic that the state that started the Revolutionary War over British taxation and religious freedom is the very state that is taxing people out of existence and curbing religious freedom now?

[jayson]

I didn't pledge either...how many more thousands are like us?

Quite a few, let me tell you. And many aren't just donating $100, they are maxing out.

Oh goody, it's going to be like Christmas morning when I wake up tomorrow. :D

[jayson]

Heh! Isn't it ironic that the state that started the Revolutionary War over British taxation and religious freedom is the very state that is taxing people out of existence and curbing religious freedom now?

They don't call it Taxachussetts for nothin!

[DoctorDoom]

It's fascinating to see how the Paulbots live in their magical, mystical, wonderfully naive fantasy world where Ron Paul has a chance of being elected.

Out here in Realityland, his chance is on a par with that of Frosty the Snowman in a blast furnace.

As for Massholechusetts, anyone foolish enough to think that this hemorrhoid on the arsehole of America is a model for other states needs to be reminded that it was the only state that went for George McGovern in 1972.

[Madbomber]

It's fascinating to see how the Paulbots live in their magical, mystical, wonderfully naive fantasy world where Ron Paul has a chance of being elected.

Out here in Realityland, his chance is on a par with that of Frosty the Snowman in a blast furnace.

As for Massholechusetts, anyone foolish enough to think that this hemorrhoid on the arsehole of America is a model for other states needs to be reminded that it was the only state that went for George McGovern in 1972.


He has a hell of a lot more chance then you are giving him credit for. Think about it. What would happen if someone like him were to win? It would be a huge message to the republican party and to the country as a whole. As much as you might hate him, you have to understand that what has been going on for the last 20-30 years has been a complete cluster ****. The best possible thing we could do is to send a clear message to the powers that be. Let them ALL know that thier shit does indeed stink. and that we are not going to put up with it anymore. At the very least you should conceed that haveing a shitty conservative is better than having a good liberal in office.

[Madbomber]

And Ron Paul started with $11,559,631.75.


Lets see how far he gets.

[Madbomber]

15 minutes into it he is at: $11,719,844.37.


Man I wish I could make money like that!

[Sarah]

Hit the tables in Vegas.

[Madbomber]

Hit the tables in Vegas.


Poker has better odds, unless you can count cards then blackjack.

[Sarah]

Don't they have poker tables in Vegas?

[THEBIRD]

Gosh....when should I make mine?

[THEBIRD]

15 minutes into it he is at: $11,719,844.37.


Man I wish I could make money like that!


LOL....so does Fred Thompson:D

[THEBIRD]

Heh! Isn't it ironic that the state that started the Revolutionary War over British taxation and religious freedom is the very state that is taxing people out of existence and curbing religious freedom now?


Exactly why I'm supporting Ron Paul....this shit has to stop! Bush, Clinton, Thompson, Rudy....none of them have the balls to actually turn things around.

[THEBIRD]

A friend of mine who works in Jefferson City once told me,

"It takes two types of people to be successful in the political arena. A John Adams to be diplomatic and to work in the smoke filled rooms behind the scenes, and a Samuel Adams to storm the British boats and throw the tea into the harbor. The agenda at hand lacking either one will be doomed to fail."

I'm enjoying a nice cold Samuel Adams right now while watching the numbers role in. He's got almost a million dollars in the first 2 hours.

[THEBIRD]

This Graph updates when your refresh your screen.



http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/dec_16_extended_total.png

Live Donation Graph

[Sarah]

lol is that real?

[THEBIRD]

LOL...yes its real....about $700,000 in the first two hours, the GOP is peeing in its pants!

[Sarah]

That has to be a first in history

[Madbomber]

Don't they have poker tables in Vegas?

Sorry my bad, when I hear "table" plus "vegas" I think Crapps.

[Madbomber]

Just hit $1.5 million at 9:36 AM. EST.

Not bad considering people have been asleep most of that time.

[UnkHiram]

Just hit $1.5 million at 9:36 AM. EST.

Not bad considering people have been asleep most of that time.

Brings to mind that old adage "A Fool and his Money are soon parted". Considering who is getting the money I would guess that his best bet is sleeping people. If they are paying attention they would not give money to a man who VOTED TO CUT OFF FUNDING TO OUR SOLDIERS WHILE THEY WERE BEING SHOT AT!!! Soldiers that he voted to send over there. Of course facts and the truth dont matter much to the Lunatics that are supporting this Lying sack of Clinton. Again I will remind you that Your Darling little Nutjob said that he was a lifelong Libertarian, but now he is running as a Republican. Ron Paul is the Howard Dean of the 08 cycle, watch him shoot off his mouth before the votes are counted and watch him fade away after the votes are counted.

[DoctorDoom]

Reality time, Paulbots: if the loon raised a billion dollars, it would not make him electable. One can't buy credibility. Do the names Al Gore, John Kerry and Ross Perot ring a bell?

[DoctorDoom]

Sorry my bad, when I hear "table" plus "vegas" I think Crapps.In this case, just think "crap". And remember that Paul's supporters are twits like bomber and bird.

[THEBIRD]

The only twit is the one who will continue to support whatever lesser than evil candidate that the liberal Mel Martinez puts in front of you.

[Suzie]

Cults are always good at getting money from the mindless.

[Madbomber]

Brings to mind that old adage "A Fool and his Money are soon parted". Considering who is getting the money I would guess that his best bet is sleeping people. If they are paying attention they would not give money to a man who VOTED TO CUT OFF FUNDING TO OUR SOLDIERS WHILE THEY WERE BEING SHOT AT!!! Soldiers that he voted to send over there. Of course facts and the truth dont matter much to the Lunatics that are supporting this Lying sack of Clinton. Again I will remind you that Your Darling little Nutjob said that he was a lifelong Libertarian, but now he is running as a Republican. Ron Paul is the Howard Dean of the 08 cycle, watch him shoot off his mouth before the votes are counted and watch him fade away after the votes are counted.

$2 million as of 11:17 AM est.

[Madbomber]

Reality time, Paulbots: if the loon raised a billion dollars, it would not make him electable. One can't buy credibility. Do the names Al Gore, John Kerry and Ross Perot ring a bell?


Has the hunter become the hunted?

[Madbomber]

Cults are always good at getting money from the mindless.


Over 150 thousand donators this quarter. Thats one big cult :evilgrin:

[DoctorDoom]

And if he finds enough idiots to give him $100M, will that make him electable? Kid, you're suffering from a delusion that the size of the warchest is based on a candidate's qualifications for office. Paul is NOT fit for the office of POTUS, and no amount of money will alter that cold, hard fact.

Feel free to continue to deceive yourself, but be ready for a kick in the nuts when the elections are over and Paul is outside looking in.

[DoctorDoom]

Has the hunter become the hunted?Madbomber - Posts: 511
DoctorDoom - Posts: 34,887

Far better than you have tried and failed, troll.

[DesertFox]

Perot had $3 billion to spend and he still didn't make it.

[THEBIRD]

Perot had $3 billion to spend and he still didn't make it.

Thats because Perot quit half-way.

Cults are always good at getting money from the mindless.

Not mindless here....just lots of pissed off people at the republican party for going left.

Open Borders.
Increased Spending.
Eminent Domain.
Bowing to Political Correctness.
Ignoring the Second Amendment

An much more...

**** the GOP. They won't get another vote from this Bible believing, Gun owning, conservative....I don't care what their views on the war on terror are.

[Suzie]

If he keeps going there will be extra kool aid for everyone when he loses :biglaugh:

[TeenageRepublican]

Watch out Paulbots, Fred Thompson's about to have his moment in the sun. ;)
Dear Friend of Fred,

In the 1980 campaign, I worked for Ronald Reagan. I was proud to be part of his team.

Now, I am just as proud to be part of Fred Thompson's team.

That's why I am writing to seek your help today.

In 1980, the defining moment for President Reagan was in a New Hampshire debate when he refused to kowtow to a belligerent moderator.

Fred had a defining moment on Wednesday in the Iowa debate, when he refused the liberal moderator's demand to raise his hand to say yes or no to a complex question.

The similarities were incredible.

We have reached a critical juncture in the campaign--and we need you to step up once again.

On Monday, Fred kicks off "The Clear Conservative Choice: Hands Down!" Bus Tour in Iowa. The tour will take Fred to 50 cities and towns across Iowa in the most aggressive retail campaigning of the whole campaign.

Just in time for the Iowa caucuses on January 3! In fact, Fred will be there virtually the entire time except Christmas until the vote.

We call it "The Clear Conservative Choice" tour because Fred is the only clear, consistent conservative in the race. He was conservative in the past, he is today and he will be so in the future. You can count on him.

We just added the "Hands Down" to commemorate his dominating performance in the Wednesday debate.

I believe this tour can make the difference in the Iowa caucuses. It will bring Fred in contact with thousands of caucus goers--it will build off the momentum of Fred's performance.

Fred is really energized...and he's already come out swinging.

But that's where you come in.

We need "air cover" in the form of media for our tour and our first rate ground game.

As you can imagine, Fred is the best on TV and his bold proposals have been highly praised by conservative publications and commentators.

But we need additional funding for our final media push.

Can you help?

Could you contribute $25, 50, $100 or more today? Your contribution will help us get a powerful new ad on the air just as the caucuses conclude.

We want 2400 donors in 24 hours to show the liberal media that we are tired of of their games. No More Hand Shows! (http://www.fred08.com/Virtual/StopTheHandShows.aspx)

Then send an e-card to all your friends and family letting them know you have had enough of the liberal media's games.

Your help is crucial--can you respond immediately? Go here to contribute. (http://www.fred08.com/Virtual/StopTheHandShows.aspx)

I know things are tight this time of year, just before Christmas...BUT NOW IS WHEN WE NEED YOU THE MOST!

Please make your contribution today.

Help Fred keep his bandwagon rolling--and the momentum increasing!

Just think about Fred's defining moment--and make your contribution now.

The time is right--the time is NOW.

Thanks so much for your help.

Sincerely,

William B. Lacy, Campaign Manager

PS Fredheads, spread this in email and PM everywhere!

[Naturalized-Texan]

George Soros and his fellow hate-America leftists are cranking millions of dollars into Ron Paul's retirement fund to reward him for his efforts to force America's surrender to the terrorists in World War IV - the War on Terror.

[4Hydroxytryptamine]

reward him for his efforts to force America's surrender to the terrorists in World War IV - the War on Terror.

Sorry to hijack, but Texan, seriously. You go too far out of your way to call the War on Terror "World War IV"

The mere fact that you have to mention it by both percieved names should show you that "World War IV" is not, nor will it ever be the accepted name for The War on Terror.

Show me one shred of proof that this war will go down in history books as the forth world war and I will never make mention of it again and apologize completely.

BTW, a couple of books written by some neo-cons does not count, that falls under the category of opinion.


World War III (abbreviated WWIII), or the Third World War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war), is a term used to describe a hypothetical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical) conflict on the scale of World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) and World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II), or even larger, such as a nuclear holocaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_holocaust). Most usages of the term assume the use of weapons of mass destruction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction) such as nuclear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon), biological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare) or chemical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare) weapons. On rare occasions, actual events, such as the Cold War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War)<sup id="_ref-0" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III#_note-0)</sup> or the War on Terror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism),<sup id="_ref-1" class="reference">[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III#_note-1)</sup> are referred to as World War III. (emphasis added for Texan) Also, there is no entry for World War IV.

[Naturalized-Texan]

The Cold War was World War III. The Global War on Terror is World War IV. It's no more than simple logic that future historians will be sure to recognize.

[DoctorDoom]

This being an opinion board, N-T has as much freedom to call the WoT "World War 4" as you have to do your tedious liberal nitpicking about it.

[ThomasMore]

Tex is not the only, or the first, writer to use the term "World War III" for the Cold War, or the term "World War IV" as the war on Islamofascism.

There are a number of books and articles on the subject:

A former head of French intelligence, Comte Alexandre de Marenches, wrote a book in 1992, "The Fourth World War: Diplomacy and Espionage in the Age of Terrorism. (http://www.amazon.com/Fourth-World-War-Diplomacy-Espionage/dp/0688092187/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197860428&sr=8-1)"

On November 20, 2001, Johns Hopkins professor Elliot Cohen wrote a column on the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal, titled: "World War IV: Let's Call This Conflict What It Is."

The Cold War was World War III, which reminds us that not all global conflicts entail the movement of multimillion-man armies, or conventional front lines on a map. The analogy with the Cold War does, however, suggest some key features of that conflict: that it is, in fact, global; that it will involve a mixture of violent and nonviolent efforts; that it will require mobilization of skill, expertise and resources, if not of vast numbers of soldiers; that it may go on for a long time; and that it has ideological roots.

In 2003, the former Clinton administration's CIA Director, James Woolsey, referred to the middle east conflict as World War IV (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.woolsey.world.war/):

In the address to a group of college students, Woolsey described the Cold War as the third world war and said "This fourth world war, I think, will last considerably longer than either World Wars I or II did for us. Hopefully not the full four-plus decades of the Cold War."

This year, author Norman Podhoretz wrote a book titled "World War IV: The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism (http://www.amazon.com/World-War-IV-Struggle-Islamofascism/dp/0385522215)."

Since you are using wikipedia as a resource, the entry on "World War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_IV#Subsequent_world_wars)" has an entire section titled "'War on Terrorism' as World War."

FWIW, I agree with the usage.

[4Hydroxytryptamine]

On November 20, 2001, Johns Hopkins professor Elliot Cohen wrote a column on the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal, titled: "World War IV: Let's Call This Conflict What It Is."



In 2003, the former Clinton administration's CIA Director, James Woolsey, referred to the middle east conflict as World War IV (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.woolsey.world.war/):



This year, author Norman Podhoretz wrote a book titled "World War IV: The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism (http://www.amazon.com/World-War-IV-Struggle-Islamofascism/dp/0385522215)."

Since you are using wikipedia as a resource, the entry on "World War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_IV#Subsequent_world_wars)" has an entire section titled "'War on Terrorism' as World War."

FWIW, I agree with the usage.

That's great that you wish it to be called WWIV but let me spell this out simply:

For every 1 person that calls The War on Terror (the acronym for this really doesn't work out) I'll show you 100 that don't.

The simple fact that someone calling this WWIV being newsworthy, or that it makes for a sensationalist book title should show you that it's against the commonly held view.

I guess only time will tell though.

[UnkHiram]

Excuse me, it's late and I am in a bad mood. Who Gives a Flying Crap what the war is called? World War 4, The War on Terrorism or Just Plain Fred, forget the da** name and concentrate on electing a President that wants to win it, not slink off like some coward in the night.

[DoctorDoom]

For every 1 person that calls The War on Terror (the acronym for this really doesn't work out) I'll show you 100 that don't.I beliieve the appropriate response to your petty, niggling trivia is "BFHD!" (Big F'ing Hairy Deal).

We will call it whatever the hell pleases us, and your opinions about our choices amount to zip, liberal.

[jayson]

Looks like we finished the day with 6.4-6.5 million.

[ThomasMore]

4Hydrox, you don't deserve the courtesy of what I am about to say, but I will say it anyway.

You claimed that Tex had no business using the term World War IV to refer to the war against Islamofascism. First, you have no right to try to censor him or anyone else from expressing their opinions. Second, you don't have a clue whereof you speak.

In response to your ill-mannered and ill-informed attempt to shut Tex down (it was doomed to failure anyway), I calmly and factually provided a number of references -- any ONE of which would have refuted your position.

Two of those references came from former heads of their nations' intelligence agencies (one from France, one a former Clinton administration CIA Director). Both of those men were serious-minded administrators. Both used the term intentionally. Those two examples, standing by themselves, provide more than enough authority for others to adopt the reference. Professors, pundits and journalists have used the term since then. I provided only a sampling of those.

You referred to Wiki, and said the reference didn't appear. I showed you where it did.

I provided all of those references without attack, without insult. Simple, bare facts which refuted your assertion.

If you couldn't muster the intellectual honesty and the good manners to apologize or to acknowledge your error, you would still have served yourself better by dropping the subject.

Instead, having been explicitly shown that YOU ARE WRONG, you want to live in your own make-believe world:

That's great that you wish it to be called WWIV but let me spell this out simply:

IT IS NOT SOMETHING EITHER TEX OR I MADE UP.

GROW UP AND GET SOME MANNERS -- THEN GO OUT AND GET SOME EDUCATION.

[4Hydroxytryptamine]

If you couldn't muster the intellectual honesty and the good manners to apologize or to acknowledge your error, you would still have served yourself better by dropping the subject.
I'll just drop it, in order to end this meaningless discussion (to which I do apologize)

Also, I never said it was anything Tex "made up."

THEN GO OUT AND GET SOME EDUCATION.
Whether it means anything to you at all, I'm willing to bet I have more formal education. (Currently working on a M.S.-PhD program in coordination with UConn While doing research with Dr. Lichtman at Alfred University -- Neuropsych-related, should take me a bit longer than the estimated two years, as I am going to Norway to do some study [where much of my family resides])

Before your respond angrily, keep in mind the bold-face section.

[The_Elucidator]

The only twit is the one who will continue to support whatever lesser than evil candidate that the liberal Mel Martinez puts in front of you.

Mel Martinez? Your homework assignment is to find out who is now in charge of the RNC...

Way to keep up on politics!!!

[The_Elucidator]

As much as you might hate him, you have to understand that what has been going on for the last 20-30 years has been a complete cluster ****. The best possible thing we could do is to send a clear message to the powers that be. Let them ALL know that thier shit does indeed stink. and that we are not going to put up with it anymore. At the very least you should conceed that haveing a shitty conservative is better than having a good liberal in office.

Yeah; thanks for reminding Doc, I'm sure he doesn't have any idea what has been going on within the GOP over the last 20 - 30 years.. :rolleyes:

RP is no more conservative than Huckabee.

[Rhino]

Threads merged.

[ThomasMore]

I'll just drop it, in order to end this meaningless discussion (to which I do apologize)

Also, I never said it was anything Tex "made up."

Whether it means anything to you at all, I'm willing to bet I have more formal education. (Currently working on a M.S.-PhD program in coordination with UConn While doing research with Dr. Lichtman at Alfred University -- Neuropsych-related, should take me a bit longer than the estimated two years, as I am going to Norway to do some study [where much of my family resides])

Before your respond angrily, keep in mind the bold-face section.

No anger here... :D

[4Hydroxytryptamine]

No anger here... :D

Good to hear :thumb:

[Naturalized-Texan]

No anger here. Being a former teacher, I was just trying to educate.