Question for Ron Paul Supporters

[stegjohn]

Lets say Ron Paul does not get the nomination. Lets just say. Do you vote for the Republican nominee or do you vote third party?

[THEBIRD]

We vote for Ron Paul.

Listen, he's not going to get the nomination....I know it, you all know it, he even knows it. He is going to run third party.

He stated on TV that running as an independent had not crossed his mind but I can tell you, that is not the case. Both the libertarian party leadership and Constitution party leadership have come together in private meetings and its rumored that they will put their endorsments behind Paul together.

Former Congressman Bob Barr who I had a chance to meet earlier this year was even hinting at a run as the Libertarian candidate but has ceased talking about it because of Paul's popularity.

Ron Paul WILL BE THE SPOILER this time around. I'm completely for a spoiler this year because I think the republicans need a good boot to the head to wake them up. Wake them up to spending issues and the border especially.

Rush Limbaugh doesn't mention Paul on his show almost never because he knows Paul's message of low-no taxes, armed borders, 2nd Amendment absolutism, pro-life, small government will hit home with a lot of conservatives in his audience and that will only increase the Paul spoiler chances.

The loss in 2006 was not about underage sexual advances or name calling by a Senator. It was because the GOP has gotten away from its conservative base and has become politically correct.

Plain and simple.

[stegjohn]

Well the intent of the thread was that Ron Paul was not running third party, should have clarified that.

[THEBIRD]

I understand....but as I stated, the third party candidate will be Ron Paul after he loses the nomination.

But for the sake of the thread...yes.....I'll vote third party no matter what GOP candidate gets the nomination. I might have been tempted to vote for Thompson or Tancredo but they don't have a prayer and I don't think Thompson is off the reservation enough to bring real change.

[jayson]

I won't vote.

But I really am thinking, as every day passes, that Ron has a real shot at the nomination.

[Jack_Savage]

He is a counterfit Republican sent in to spoil the election. He's Ross Perot all over again.You remember Ross Perot, he's the guy who ran for President then coincidentally, at just the perfect time, dropped out in favor of Bill Clinton. Ross Perot, the other spoiler. But it won't work this time. We are at war and Americans don't back cowards. Ross Perot had the image of a Hero for his daring mission into Iran with retired military backing him. No the only operatives supporting Ron Paul are George Soros people who find his cowardace usefull.

[THEBIRD]

He is a counterfit Republican sent in to spoil the election. He's Ross Perot all over again.You remember Ross Perot, he's the guy who ran for President then coincidentally, at just the perfect time, dropped out in favor of Bill Clinton. Ross Perot, the other spoiler. But it won't work this time. We are at war and Americans don't back cowards. Ross Perot had the image of a Hero for his daring mission into Iran with retired military backing him. No the only operatives supporting Ron Paul are George Soros people who find his cowardace usefull.

You added absolutely nothing to the thread that the original author asked for in this thread. Just more name calling and insults. Way to go! Par for the course again I see.:shame:

[Naturalized-Texan]

But Ron Paul has pledged not to run as a 3rd party candidate. Of course, we all know that his pledges are meaningless.

[The_Elucidator]

You added absolutely nothing to the thread that the original author asked for in this thread. Just more name calling and insults. Way to go! Par for the course again I see.:shame:

How is D4R's post any different than that mindless babble in your 1st post about Rupaul being a spoiler which mirrors what Ross Perot did in 92? You insinuate that Rush is conducting some sort of covert Rupaul cover-up and bash D4R for calling a spade a spade.

[mkafrica]

He is going to run third party.

He stated on TV that running as an independent had not crossed his mind but I can tell you, that is not the case.

I know this may be off topic to the original question stated on this thread, but wouldn't this make RP a liar? If he stated on TV that he would not run as an independent third party, and then he did?

How could you vote for someone who does the exact opposite of what he said he would do? And how could that action be condoned as being 'conservative'?

Again, I don't want to derail this thread, so please don't everyone take this much farther, but it was just something that struck me when reading THEBIRD's post.

I am just looking for a quick reply...

[jayson]

You added absolutely nothing to the thread that the original author asked for in this thread. Just more name calling and insults. Way to go! Par for the course again I see.

Ehh, don't get too flustered with Democrat4Liberal... It's doubtful that anyone on these boards takes him seriously, and with a name like that, I can't blame them.

[THEBIRD]

He never made a pledge to NOT run as an independent....he said the idea was not on his mind at the moment or something to that effect. Nothing about a pledge was mentioned. Texan likes to stretch the truth.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

He never made a pledge to NOT run as an independent....he said the idea was not on his mind at the moment or something to that effect. Nothing about a pledge was mentioned. Texan likes to stretch the truth.

He absolutely did say he would not run as an Independent ... said it at the Republican YouTube Debate.

Republican YouTube Debate Transcript (Part II) (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/28/debate.transcript.part2/index.html)
Debate Question: "This question is for Ron Paul.
Mr. Paul, I think we both know that the Republican party is never going to give you the nomination. But I'm hoping that you're crazy like a fox like that and you're using this exposure to propel yourself into an independent run.
My question is for Ron Paul: Mr. Paul, are you going to let America down by not running as an independent?
Thank you."

Paul: Now that's what I call a tough question, because I have no intention of doing this. I am a Republican. I have won 10 times as a Republican and we're doing quite well. ...

Cooper: I'll take that as a no.

And he (Ron Paul) offered no dissent from his assertion.

[The_Elucidator]

He absolutely did say he would not run as an Independent ... said it at the Republican YouTube Debate.

Republican YouTube Debate Transcript (Part II) (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/28/debate.transcript.part2/index.html)
Debate Question: "This question is for Ron Paul.
Mr. Paul, I think we both know that the Republican party is never going to give you the nomination. But I'm hoping that you're crazy like a fox like that and you're using this exposure to propel yourself into an independent run.
My question is for Ron Paul: Mr. Paul, are you going to let America down by not running as an independent?
Thank you."

Paul: Now that's what I call a tough question, because I have no intention of doing this. I am a Republican. I have won 10 times as a Republican and we're doing quite well. ...

Cooper: I'll take that as a no.

And he (Ron Paul) offered no dissent from his assertion.

Hey sis; I also posted another thread about him stating unequivocally that he WAS NOT going to run as a 3rd party candidate.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Hey sis; I also posted another thread about him stating unequivocally that he WAS NOT going to run as a 3rd party candidate.

That "great-minds" thing isn't just hereditary, it's more like contagious -- keep hanging around my threads and you'll end up close to genius, :D.

[The_Elucidator]

That "great-minds" thing isn't just hereditary, it's more like contagious -- keep hanging around my threads and you'll end up close to genius, :D.

We're quite high on ourself tonight aren't we... :notworthy:

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

We're quite high on ourself tonight aren't we... :notworthy:

High and mighty, my friend. Your worship is well recieved and I grant you the honor of a response, :D.


(Had a good night ... we had our Christmas Party for the girls weightlifting team tonight, and it went really well. Looks like my daughter has a really good chance of making it to State!!!)

[THEBIRD]

He absolutely did say he would not run as an Independent ... said it at the Republican YouTube Debate.
Paul: Now that's what I call a tough question, because I have no intention of doing this. I am a Republican. I have


Ok...NOWHERE DID HE SAY HE PLEDGED!!!!!!! (TEXAN)

There are no guarentees in that sentence.....no promises.....no I swear's....

Dream on folks....you don't raise 18 million in the fouth quarter of the year before an election and just roll over.

He's gonna run ....betcha!

[Nutrider99]

I understand....but as I stated, the third party candidate will be Ron Paul after he loses the nomination.
Oh, a hillary supporter! Why did that not surprise me? I guess you didn't learn anything from eight years of crime, cover-up and abuse of power did you? Perhaps your underdeveloped mind simply buys into the all the lies of the libs about President Bush (not one of which was proven) and you ignore the glaring evidence of felony after felony by the most corrupt white trash to ever infest the White House.

If that criminal hillary gets into office, I will hold people like you PERSONALLY responsible.

[Nutrider99]

I won't vote.
The get the hell out of here. If you have no intention of expressing your opinion at the ballot box where it counts, then you're wasting band width expressing that opinion here.

[Nutrider99]

He is a counterfit Republican sent in to spoil the election. He's Ross Perot all over again.You remember Ross Perot, he's the guy who ran for President then coincidentally, at just the perfect time, dropped out in favor of Bill Clinton. Ross Perot, the other spoiler. But it won't work this time. We are at war and Americans don't back cowards. Ross Perot had the image of a Hero for his daring mission into Iran with retired military backing him. No the only operatives supporting Ron Paul are George Soros people who find his cowardace usefull.
Absolutely! :claps::claps:

[DoctorDoom]

Dream on folks....you don't raise 18 million in the fouth quarter of the year before an election and just roll over.I will continue to ask this until one of you Paulbots answers it: WHY is having millions of dollars a qualification to be the POTUS, and HOW will it buy the election? You chilluns cite money as though it's a magic wand that can be waved to put Paul in the White House, but you have yet to explain the "logic" behind it.

Do so or cut the schitte about his millions.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Ok...NOWHERE DID HE SAY HE PLEDGED!!!!!!! (TEXAN)

There are no guarentees in that sentence.....no promises.....no I swear's....

Dream on folks....you don't raise 18 million in the fouth quarter of the year before an election and just roll over.

He's gonna run ....betcha!

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/biglaugh.gifSounds like we need a clarification, like, it depends on what the definition of the word "is", is.

You can parse till you're blue in the face. He CLEARLY said he has no intention of running third party, and REITERATED that he "is" a Republican (which certainly WE all question, :smirky:). If he "changes his mind" and runs third party, he will be going back on what he said -- clearly not someone deserving of the Presidency. If, in fact, there is truth to the story that he started as a 'Pub with the intention of going third party as the spoiler, then he will be guilty of fraud and an all out liar.


(Dog-gone it, I promised myself I was going to stay out of the FootPaul quicksand swamp, and here I am dragged under once again, LOL.)

[The_Elucidator]

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/biglaugh.gifSounds like we need a clarification, like, it depends on what the definition of the word "is", is.

You can parse till you're blue in the face. He CLEARLY said he has no intention of running third party, and REITERATED that he "is" a Republican (which certainly WE all question, :smirky:). If he "changes his mind" and runs third party, he will be going back on what he said -- clearly not someone deserving of the Presidency. If, in fact, there is truth to the story that he started as a 'Pub with the intention of going third party as the spoiler, then he will be guilty of fraud and an all out liar.


(Dog-gone it, I promised myself I was going to stay out of the FootPaul quicksand swamp, and here I am dragged under once again, LOL.)

That is exactly what I was thinking about the Rupaulbots parsing words! The loyalty is almost, shall I say, Hitleresque? Just look at Glenn Beck who the Rupaulbots have sent death threats to because they think he is a traitor. If this tool runs third party it will only verify what we have known all along, that is not about the country but about him stroking his pathetic ego.

As far as playing in the Rupaul swamp..... Ain't it cool??? Keeps me energized!!! :biggrin:

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Just look at Glenn Beck who the Rupaulbots have sent death threats to because they think he is a traitor.

Ohh brudder, did you see Beck interview Ron Paul last night? (I missed it, dog-gone it, was at my daughter's weigtlifting Christmas Party!) I found the transcript:

GLENN BECK - Honest Questions with Ron Paul (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/18/gb.01.html)

Found some video footage courtesy of HotAir.com:

Video: Glenn Beck Grills Ron Paul About Threats, Conspiracy Theories (http://ianschwartz.com/2007/12/18/video-glenn-beck-grills-ron-paul-on-threats-conspiracy-theories/)

[mkafrica]

Just look at Glenn Beck who the Rupaulbots have sent death threats to because they think he is a traitor.

I got Beck's book signed when he was in town a few weeks ago. There were a ton of RP protesters standing outside the Borders I went to. It was fun!

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I got Beck's book signed when he was in town a few weeks ago. There were a ton of RP protesters standing outside the Borders I went to. It was fun!

I asked for Beck's book for Christmas! :thumb:

[Naturalized-Texan]

I asked for Beck's book for Christmas! :thumb:
Me too, but it won't be delivered until after Christmas. It had been sold out at Amazon.com.

[The_Elucidator]

There were a ton of RP protesters standing outside the Borders I went to. It was fun!

Which is highly commendable on their part as they no doubt had to take time off from their Hitler Youth Rally to do so... :smirky:

[jayson]

I wouldn't say Ron was "grilled". In fact, I thought the interview was one of the best yet. Great exposure and Ron was able to back up his message by not being cut up into 30 second sound bites.

[THEBIRD]

Glenn Beck was very very fair to Ron Paul. Didn't Glenn say something about wanting to French kiss him? LOL

Glenn and Paul differ only on the war. Other than that, they are inline with their views on the UN, guns, taxes, over-reaching govt, and spending.

[Seabee]

Glenn and Paul differ only on the war. Other than that, they are inline with their views on the UN, guns, taxes, over-reaching govt, and spending.

So what? Thompson and Paul share plenty of views. Still does not mean they are the same candidate. After "some" of Paul's common sense approaches he goes completely off the deep end with his conspiracies and isolationism. Which are two very broad topics that make him lose complete credibility.