Ron Paul Insinuates Christians are Fascists!

[The_Elucidator]

He could have said any one of a MILLION things about Mike Huckabee's ad but he chose to quote Sinclair Lewis.

Of course the Rupaulbots will spin the shit out of this but the fact reamains that he said what he did!

More Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4)

What a tool!!

[DoctorDoom]

Charming! What an arsehole.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Ron Paul sounded senile in that video clip. For someone who opposes fighting fascism to say that about Christians is reprehensible and proves that he is the mindless kook that all informed people think he is.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Fascism is fashionable.

And with Ron Paul that means fascism comes wearing a bra and holding a purple dildo.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Crying 'fascism' is like showing your gym membership card to lefties when you weigh 98 lbs. No. Not at Gold's Gym. Some other lesser, organic mineral. Cardboard Gym.

Say 'fascism', suddenly you're an insider, and 'in the know'.

I just keep wondering when the secret decoder rings will be shipped out to team rEVOLution so that we can DaVinci code this entire religious sham.

[The_Elucidator]

Fascism is fashionable.

And with Ron Paul that means fascism comes wearing a bra and holding a purple dildo.

I have told myself over and over again not to read Wyatt's posts while partaking of my usual 44 oz Diet Pepsi.... But Nooooooooo... And now it's time to change my shirt. Ya dick!

[jayson]

I don't know how you are arriving at the conclusion that Ron is suggesting that Christians are fascists. He is Christian himself...

He makes a good point, though. The Huckster is blatantly using his religion for political gain. He is a big-spending, lying and deceitful liberal in a pastors clothes. He is courting the religious voters, especially the ones who don't think, they just look at which candidate has the most religious background, whether their policies are sound or not.

Let me leave you with something Jesus himself said:

Yea, and I say unto you verily, that there is no worse thing here upon earth than this, that a man cover himself with profession and garb of religion to cover his wickedness.

[THEBIRD]

Ron Paul is completely correct. Did you hear the rest of what he said after that quote. Huckabee is trying to tell voters that he is the only "Christian Choice" That is absurd.

Paul is very much a born again believer and is rightly upset as should the rest of the candidates be that the Huckster is trying to make himself out to be the only one worthy of the evangelical voter.

Paul hits the nail on the head again!




CORRECT!!!!
Yea, and I say unto you verily, that there is no worse thing here upon earth than this, that a man cover himself with profession and garb of religion to cover his wickedness.

[DoctorDoom]

It was expected that when the above link was posted, the mindless, kneejerk Paulbots would leap to the defense of that butthole.

"Who is the greater fool, the fool, or the fool who follows him?"
-- Obi-Wan Kenobi


Paul's words, verbatim:

Question: "I want to ask you about something. Mike Huckabee has started running an ad in Iowa, where you are right now, and also in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and in the back is a window pane, but it looks a lot like a cross. And we had a guest a little while ago, he said he thought it was inappropriate to be using religion for political purposes. Congressman I'm just curious what you think."

Paul: "Well, I haven't thought about it completely, but, you know, it reminds me of what Sinclair Lewis once said. He said when fascusm comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross. Now I don't know whether that's a fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using the cross like he is the only Christian, or implying that subtlely, so I don't thing I would ever use anything like that."

At the very least, your vacuous idol is calling Huckabee a fascist, but since one man does not bring fascism to a nation, he is equating Christians as a group to fascists. You can spin that until you fall on the floor with dizzyness, but you cannot change what he said into what you want us to believe that he said.

Paul is a senile ass.

[Neil Peart]

Jayson, where in the Bible is that from?

[mkafrica]

Jayson, where in the Bible is that from?

Per Google, it's from the Epistle of Barnabas.

[DoctorDoom]

Ergo it's not in the Bible. It's one of the apocryphal books.

[mkafrica]

Ergo it's not in the Bible. It's one of the apocryphal books.

Yup.

[Nutrider99]

Ergo it's not in the Bible. It's one of the apocryphal books.
Ergo, Jesus didn't say it.

[Lubbock]

Can just one person here tell me what in the hell this huge flap is over Huckabee's "ad"?

Fox and Friends started off with an anal analysis of it this morning when I turned the television on at 5:00am Lubbock time.

I just got home and turned on Gibson's afternoon talker, and damned if he didn't lead with another analysis and put down of the ad.

A window pane appears as a cross in the shot behind Huckabee, while he wishes Merry Christmas to everyone, and reminds up to KEEP CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS.

I have no clue as to what has set the media off.

Huckabee is a BAPTIST MINISTER. AN ORDAINED MINISTER.

What did you expect him to use as a backdrop in a MERRY CHRISTMAS message?

EDIT: That rant may be thread drift. I heard RP's statement on the Huckabee spot. I already knew RP is a Major League Asshole, as does every sane person here, so why comment on the Thread Topic?

[MarlinsFan]

He called Huck a fascist, I don't think he is generalizing to include all Christians. It also brings up the fact that Huck is acting as if he is the only Christian in the race, which he is not.

[DoctorDoom]

One man can be a fascist. Fascism requires a force.

[The_Elucidator]

It was expected that when the above link was posted, the mindless, kneejerk Paulbots would leap to the defense of that butthole.


Paul is a senile ass.

Exactly Doc! I knew when I posted this that they would accuse Huckabee of pretending to be the only Christian choice and twist it to say he wasn't talking about Christians in general.

Fact is; Huckabee has the nuts to come out and wear his religion on his shirt sleeve like Rupaul wears his BS anti-war stance on his. All the candidates have the choice of doing the very same thing and have all chosen not to. I respect the hell out of him for doing just that for the simple reason that this mythical separation of Chuch and state is just that...a myth. Good on Huck for doing this.

Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
(Matthew 5:10)

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven.
(Matthew 5:11,12)


Huck wins the nominiation - HE HAS MY VOTE!!
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[jayson]

What did you expect him to use as a backdrop in a MERRY CHRISTMAS message?

Maybe a crucifix and a Christmas tree? Hell, he could have even worn a visible cross necklace and it wouldn't have seemed so obviously cheeky. To me, this comes off as a bad attempt to subtly send his "the only 'real' Christian" message, which is terribly condescending.

Personally, I could care less what religion a candidate prefers, so long as they promote American ideals and support freedom... but more importantly, they are genuine in their convictions.

Huck is none of the above, and at this point in time, he is only attempting to court the non-thinking religious right. The same folks who simply vote for whomever has the best religious track record, oblivious to the candidate's actual policy choices.

[The_Elucidator]

Maybe a crucifix and a Christmas tree? Hell, he could have even worn a visible cross necklace and it wouldn't have seemed so obviously cheeky. To me, this comes off as a bad attempt to subtly send his "the only 'real' Christian" message, which is terribly condescending.


Whatever... :rolleyes: Just because your candidate doesn't have the nuts, now Huck is a condescending fascist.

Personally, I could care less what religion a candidate prefers, so long as they promote American ideals and support freedom... but more importantly, they are genuine in their convictions.

Who are you to say that he isn't genuine in his convictions. Seems to me like he is the only candidate willing to show his spiritual convictions.


Huck is none of the above, and at this point in time, he is only attempting to court the non-thinking religious right.

Non-thinking religious right - well with that statement you just boxed yourself nicely into Rupaul's anti-Christian majority base!


The same folks who simply vote for whomever has the best religious track record, oblivious to the candidate's actual policy choices.

Oh, you mean like not supporting the troops like Rupaul...

[Lubbock]

. . . attempting to court the non-thinking religious right. . . .

And this is where the Non-Thinking-In-General Loony Left have completely missed the boat.

The Religious Right does think.

Something has become abundantly clear to me after listening to twelve hours of Television Talker Upscut over the Huckabee Merry Christmas Card: Just as there are more of us who carry guns legally and uphold the Second Amendment, there are more of us who carry Bibles and uphold the Judeo Christian beliefs upon which this nation was founded.

If anyone of you out there believes for a minute that the Huckabee "Keep The Christ In Christmas" message doesn't resonate with the electorate, think again.

This is where to Godless Left miss the boat: There are more Bibles and Guns in homes across America than any one of them would ever dream possible.

And that is the very reason why I don't fear for this nation as much as many do.

When push comes to shove, Bibles and Guns will keep us free.

The Loony Left and Militant Muslims don't stand a chance against those of us who are armed with Bibles and Guns.

[Jack_Savage]

And this is where the Non-Thinking-In-General Loony Left have completely missed the boat.

The Religious Right does think.

Something has become abundantly clear to me after listening to twelve hours of Television Talker Upscut over the Huckabee Merry Christmas Card: Just as there are more of us who carry guns legally and uphold the Second Amendment, there are more of us who carry Bibles and uphold the Judeo Christian beliefs upon which this nation was founded.

If anyone of you out there believes for a minute that the Huckabee "Keep The Christ In Christmas" message doesn't resonate with the electorate, think again.

This is where to Godless Left miss the boat: There are more Bibles and Guns in homes across America than any one of them would ever dream possible.

And that is the very reason why I don't fear for this nation as much as many do.

When push comes to shove, Bibles and Guns will keep us free.

The Loony Left and Militant Muslims don't stand a chance against those of us who are armed with Bibles and Guns.

I can only hope your correct Lubbock, but if I accept that, I become a bit apathetic instead of fighting them tooth and nail untill this election is over. I sincerely hope your correct and if what you were watching gave you hope, that is surely good news, but I will stay on guard for now.

[jayson]

Just because your candidate doesn't have the nuts, now Huck is a condescending fascist.

I don't know about fascist, but he is certainly condescending.

Who are you to say that he isn't genuine in his convictions. Seems to me like he is the only candidate willing to show his spiritual convictions.

Just look at the man's history in politics! He says one thing and does something completely else... which means he is usually talking up conservative points while being a "compassionate conservative" liberal.

As for spiritual convictions... you are sounding no different than those who I am talking about. I obviously can't speak for you, but from my point of view, you are saying exactly what I am talking about. "He is an ordained minister... Let's make him President!" while completely disregarding the fact that he doesn't represent conservatives.

Non-thinking religious right - well with that statement you just boxed yourself nicely into Rupaul's anti-Christian majority base!

You would have a point if I weren't Christian myself... but since I am, well... that argument is null and void.


Mark my words. If the Huckster gets the nomination, the Republicans have just given up their one chance at averting disaster-- a government completely controlled by ultra-Liberal 60s-holdout Democrats... because Huck WILL lose in a general election. There is no doubt about that. I just still can't see why the GOP would shoot itself in the foot, and willingly to boot.

[DoctorDoom]

Mark my words. If the Huckster gets the nomination, the Republicans have just given up their one chance at averting disaster--Doom's Law #2: Never take medical advice from someone who wants you dead.

[THEBIRD]

Paul doesn't need to be defended.

Huck is trying to say that he is the only real evangelical in the race and Paul took offence to that as I'm sure others did as well.

This could be Huck's Howard Dean Moment.

[THEBIRD]

Its so funny how some of these folks on here think that Pauls fans are nothing but athiest, hippies and friends of george soros. LOL!!

Seriously, do athiest, hippy, george soros people usually support pro-life, pro-gun, closed border, small government, anti-welfare type politicians??...because if thats the case....I'm in the wrong crowd.

[DoctorDoom]

Paul doesn't need to be defended.Translated from Paulese: "We can't defend that fool without making ourselves look like utter asses."

Its so funny how some of these folks on here think that Pauls fans are nothing but athiest, hippies and friends of george soros. LOL!!Not at all. We think that you're clueless, immature, fawning groupies of the kind that think their idols cause the sun to rise and set, that throw rubbers and panties onto the stage at their "concerts", and that woiuld give them BJs to show how much they are loved.

Having watched that clip a few times, I conclude that Paul is growing senile (he's 72) and is no longer fit for office (not that it stops the dinosaurs in Congress from occupying seats despite their incompetence).

One does wonder how a man who hasn't thought much about Huckabee's ad had handy an obscure quote from Harry Sinclair Lewis:

It is, I think, an error to believe that there is any need of religion to make life seem worth living.
-- Sinclair Lewis, in Will Durant, On the Meaning of Life, quoted from James A Haught, 2000 Years of Disbelief

God give me unclouded eyes and freedom from haste. God give me quiet and relentless anger against all pretense and all pretentious work and all work left slack and unfinished. God give me a restlessness whereby I may neither sleep nor accept praise until my observed results equal my calculated results, or, in pious glee, I discover and assault my error. God give me strength not to trust God.
-- Sinclair Lewis, Arrowsmith (scientist's creed)

So Paul, who "is Christian himself", quotes an atheist to support his bigotry against Christians. And you're defending that.

[Nutrider99]

Its so funny how some of these folks on here think that Pauls fans are nothing but athiest, hippies and friends of george soros. LOL!!
No, I just consider them morons. Ron Paul has two groups of supporters. A. democreeps who want the weakest possible Republican opponent, or even better a third party who will help elect hillary like Perot did for Bill, and B. Stupid people who look up to an idiot and are dazzled by his brilliance.

[The_Elucidator]

You would have a point if I weren't Christian myself... but since I am, well... that argument is null and void.

It is far from null and void!! In one sentence you lump evangelicals into the "non thinking" religious right and in another you say, "If I weren't a Christian myself." Are you bipolar or are you part of the "christian left," who believes that it is ok for homo bishops and abortion?

The fact that Rupaul has an issue with Hucks ad and the fact that all his minions are defending him, obviously lends credence to my opinion.

[jayson]

In one sentence you lump evangelicals into the "non thinking" religious right

If you would carefully re-read my post, I am calling out the non-thinking religious right. There are folks like myself, yourself, and others who actually think for themselves, yet are evangelical. I'm not saying anything about them.

An example is, say, Homes... She is supporting Fred Thompson, because she thinks for herself. She isn't supporting Huckabee just simply because he is an ordained minister. If that were the only requirement, thousands of people in this nation should be running for the presidential nomination. Sorry, but I need more substance than that.

Are you bipolar or are you part of the "christian left," who believes that it is ok for homo bishops and abortion?

Homo bishops- no. Abortion- no.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

An example is, say, Homes... She is supporting Fred Thompson, because she thinks for herself. She isn't supporting Huckabee just simply because he is an ordained minister.

Believe it or not, there are those here that would disagree with you on that, :smirky:.

[The_Elucidator]

If you would carefully re-read my post, I am calling out the non-thinking religious right. There are folks like myself, yourself, and others who actually think for themselves, yet are evangelical. I'm not saying anything about them.

An example is, say, Homes... She is supporting Fred Thompson, because she thinks for herself. She isn't supporting Huckabee just simply because he is an ordained minister. If that were the only requirement, thousands of people in this nation should be running for the presidential nomination. Sorry, but I need more substance than that.



Homo bishops- no. Abortion- no.

I did read your post jayson and you didn't single out just those who would vote for him for no other reason than he is an ordained minister; you just said non-thinking religious right!

But with that I will somewhat agree with you! I am not, nor have I ever been just a 1 issue voter; although I know many folks that are. But my priorities do lead me to vote in the following order; social, security, fiscal... But it doesn't stop there! Patriotism plays a major roll in how I look at a candidate.

[Lubbock]

I'm back to Thread Drift --because I frankly don't give a Rat's Hiney about Paul, and have no desire to engage in any discussion --pro or con, about the man . . .

For whatever firestorm Huckabee created with his Merry Christmas spot, I consider the fallout POSITIVE.

Huckabee may have just accomplished what seemed an impossibility a month ago: HE PUT MERRY CHRISTMAS BACK IN CHRISTMAS.

The Afternoon Talkers on FOX are still yammering about it.

And guess what: OsamaObama, Hillary and Rudy have all had to follow Huckabee and have made MERRY CHRISTMAS spots for air.

Good on you, Huck.

I don't want you anywhere on a Republican Ticket in the fall, 2008, but you stuck it to 'em on MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Good on you Huck.

[jayson]

I did read your post jayson and you didn't single out just those who would vote for him for no other reason than he is an ordained minister; you just said non-thinking religious right!

Perhaps I should have used punctuation more liberally. Non-thinking, religious right. Or maybe non-thinking-religious-right. Either way, I wasn't focusing on the religious right... just the ones who are so zealously Christian that any and all policy choices are unimportant so long as the candidate in question is Christian.

But with that I will somewhat agree with you! I am not, nor have I ever been just a 1 issue voter; although I know many folks that are.

I'm glad to hear that. You and I may not agree on much, but we can both agree that a democracy fails when people become infatuated with niche interests, which is always when the welfare of the country becomes collateral damage.

[Lubbock]

Uh, oh.

Y'all brace yourselves. Take up an extra hitch in those seatbelts, because I don't want to see anyone go splat on the windshield.

I think I just may have found one thing that Jayson and I agree on: One Issue Voters.

They are VERY dangerous.

Doesn't matter which side of the Political Aisle you come from --Lib or Conservative, if you're a one-issue voter, you are a Danger to everyone.

Strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.