Zogby: Ron Paul Will Surprise You

[jayson]

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Zogby:_Ron_Paul_Will_Surp/2007/12/21/59011.html

Ron Paul: He's going to do better than anyone expects. Look to Paul to climb into the double-digits in Iowa. Why? He's different, he stands out. He's against the war and he has the one in four Republicans who oppose the war all to himself.

[DesertFox]

He's against the war and he has the one in four Republicans who oppose the war all to himself. Yes, IF that's the onliest issue they take into consideration.

[The_Elucidator]

Ron Paul: He's going to do better than anyone expects. Look to Paul to climb into the double-digits in Iowa. Why? He's different, he stands out. He's against the war and he has the one in four Republicans who oppose the war all to himself.

Which is exactly why he won't win!

And 25% of Republicans don't oppose the war they are disappointed in how Bush has conducted his PR campaign in handling the hate America DBM.

[THEBIRD]

I LOVE THIS PART!!!


Fred Thompson: I've never seen the point of his candidacy. I still don't get it. There are some who suggest that he's caught some fire and he could come in second or third place in Iowa, as Huckabee or Romney fades. But right now, his candidacy has all the qualities of Baltic Avenue in a Republican sea of St. Charles Places. (Note: If Thompson wins the nomination, my comments here are for entertainment purposes only.)

[Jack_Savage]

I LOVE THIS PART!!!

I don't follow? Your the one saying the best you can hope for is for RP to be the key factor for a Hillary win???

[The_Elucidator]

Since he likes using the monopoly analogy...

Fred Thompson: I've never seen the point of his candidacy. I still don't get it. There are some who suggest that he's caught some fire and he could come in second or third place in Iowa, as Huckabee or Romney fades. But right now, his candidacy has all the qualities of Baltic Avenue in a Republican sea of St. Charles Places. (Note: If Thompson wins the nomination, my comments here are for entertainment purposes only.)

Just like in monopoly; all of the "Money" that Rupaul collects will go back in the box after he loses... :rotflmbo: Actually he might want to store some of his money away cause it's lookin' like he will be out of his congressional job next year also!!!

[THEBIRD]

I'm actually writing this in East Texas. I've been here on Christmas break for a week. The amount of Ron Paul bumper stickers is amazing. Texas is a fan of Ron Paul.

This sites local rep from Texas is sitting in his basement with the lights off aparently.

[DesertFox]

This sites local rep from Texas is sitting in his basement with the lights off aparently. Huh? What site you talkin' about?

[The_Elucidator]

I'm actually writing this in East Texas. I've been here on Christmas break for a week. The amount of Ron Paul bumper stickers is amazing. Texas is a fan of Ron Paul.


East Texas is a hot spot for inbreeding, so that doesn't surprise me. Also, you are probably in his congressional district... duh! Here in "South Texas" I have yet to see the FIRST Rupaul bumper sticker (FACT). But like I said before, Mexicans don't make good Nazi's! Outside of Winter Texans, unless you're a Hispanic running for office you won't get your name on the back of a car or in somebody's front yard!

:roar:About the only surprise Ron Paul has, is for any candidate who drops the soap in the post debate shower rooms.

[garlicguy]

East Texas is a hot spot for inbreeding,...

:roar:About the only surprise Ron Paul has, is for any candidate who drops the soap in the post debate shower rooms.

You sound like the voice of personal experience, Luc.

[garlicguy]

I'm actually writing this in East Texas. I've been here on Christmas break for a week. The amount of Ron Paul bumper stickers is amazing. Texas is a fan of Ron Paul.

This site's local rep from Texas is sitting in his basement with the lights off aparently.

More likely that the "Lights are on, but nobody's home" or a simple case of the blind trying to lead the blind. Both common conditions in those parts.

:biggrin: gg

[The_Elucidator]

More likely that the "Lights are on, but nobody's home" or a simple case of the blind trying to lead the blind. Both common conditions in those parts.

:biggrin: gg

Rupaul is barely polling 5% in texas in the most recent Texas Poll (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/new-hampshire-iowa-texas-polls-112007.html), :roar:Yeppers, the lights are on, they just ain't shining on any Rupaul Yard signs... :rotflmbo:

[garlicguy]

Rupaul is barely polling 5% in texas in the most recent Texas Poll (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/new-hampshire-iowa-texas-polls-112007.html), :roar:Yeppers, the lights are on, they just ain't shining on any Rupaul Yard signs... :rotflmbo:

Thanks for the link, Luc. I didn't realize that Dr Paul is leading FDT by a 2-to-1 margin in NH already even in MSM polls! Great news for Conservative, Constitutional supporters!

[DoctorDoom]

"De PLANE, boss! De PLANE!"

[garlicguy]

Or, if your audience is more intelligent: "Decamp! Decamp!"

[namvet527]

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Zogby:_Ron_Paul_Will_Surp/2007/12/21/59011.html


Ru Paul will not surprise any one. He is a TRAITOR & lunatic. The only thing that suprises me is the fact that any so called conservatives would vote for this pile of trash.

I don't believe in polls. They are very easilty manipulated and who says they are not lieing about the result. I feel that polls are just used as fodder for talk show.

The only talk show host that don't believe in polls is Rush Limbaugh. No wonder he is NUMBER ONE.

Any anti war Americans are just COWARDS & TRAITORS. His being against the war is gonna SINK HIM to negative digits.

[Timberwolf]

What? He's gonna withdraw from the race?? Wahooo!!

Well, that's the only way he COULD surprise me...either that or get on board with supporting our troops.

[jayson]

I don't believe in polls. They are very easilty manipulated and who says they are not lieing about the result. I feel that polls are just used as fodder for talk show.

Which is the exact reason he is going to surprise everyone in the first place! I think Ron is going to do much better than everyone is currently predicting.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Why would anyone vote for a pseudo-conservative like Ron Paul when there is a REAL conservative like Fred Thompson in the race. After all, Fred is conservative on every issue where Ron Paul is conservative AND is conservative on every issue where Ron Paul is not.

[Timberwolf]

Thanks for the link, Luc. I didn't realize that Dr Paul is leading FDT by a 2-to-1 margin in NH already even in MSM polls! Great news for Conservative, Constitutional supporters!
Who gives a fig about New Hampshire? I'd be more concerned with South Carolina.

Ya don't have to even 'show' in NH to become President...besides, isn't that where Dean had his Yeeeeaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!! "moment"?

[THEBIRD]

Why would anyone vote for a pseudo-conservative like Ron Paul when there is a REAL conservative like Fred Thompson in the race. After all, Fred is conservative on every issue where Ron Paul is conservative AND is conservative on every issue where Ron Paul is not.

Yeah but he fizzled out about 3 months ago. He just doesn't have the energy required to run this kind of race.

The energy you see at the Paul campaign is coming from people being just plain pissed off and fed up.
If I see one more eminent domain case in St. Louis taking away real estate for some stupid Starbucks store....you're libel to read about me in drudge the next day.

Something needs to be done to take back freedom in this country and Paul is the only one saying that this shit needs to stop. PERIOD!

[The_Elucidator]

Something needs to be done to take back freedom in this country and Paul is the only one saying that this shit needs to stop. PERIOD!

No he isn't, which is why nobody on this board like Rupaul supporters. You guys make up crap as you go, which shows your complete lack of integrity. Rupaul is not the only candidate that is preaching this! He is however, the only cowardly candidate running in the GOP that has his head stuck in the sand on the GWOT, which is why he got spanked in the first annual Freecon poll by a poo flinging monkey! :shame:

[Naturalized-Texan]

Something needs to be done to take back freedom in this country and Paul is the only one saying that this shit needs to stop. PERIOD!
Ron Paul will surrender to the terrorists and that would be the end of any dreams you may have about taking back freedom. Ron Paul clearly wants you dead or being forced to bow down to Mecca. Your hate-America devotion to that hate-America traitor and coward, Ron Paul, is disgusting.

[jayson]

Ron Paul clearly wants you dead or being forced to bow down to Mecca.

I'm really happy that I don't wake up every morning thinking THAT!

That's really asinine NT. To arrive at that conclusion because Ron wants to pull the plug on a war that is impossible to win by attrition (you can't kill ideas), and a war that we can't afford, really astounds me.

Let us just say that the terrorist threat is as imminent as you purport. Say Islam has finally conquered Europe (after we have deposed the leaders of all of the middle eastern countries) and turned it into a giant cesspool of religious hate and Sharia law.

How do you propose that we pay our soldiers and build our planes and tanks and manufacture our bullets when the dollar has become worthless due to government spending? I'm not just talking about the war, I am also talking about the entitlement generation sucking Aunt Sam's teet and the baby boomers bankrupting Social Security, which then the government will have to pay into to make sure the 70 million old people don't go hungry.

How to you propose we fight this global jihad then?

It all comes back to money NT. That's why I support Ron Paul first and foremost. He wants to cut spending, get rid of wasteful departments that are unconstitutional and serve no purpose (Department of Education immediately comes to mind!), and try and cut these problems off at the pass. He wants to abolish the Fed, which is the organization that creates the bubbles that always burst as well as printing new money which makes everyone's dollar have less value. He wants to get rid of the fiat money policy that encourages wasteful spending at the expense of us, the tax payers.

War on Terror or not, the most important issue on the table is monetary policy, hands down. It is THAT which enables us to defend ourselves, it is THAT which enables our economy to thrive, it is THAT that ensures American's standard of living remains so high compared to the rest of the world. It is THAT which ultimately ensures our survival. I think we have to take a good long look at who the greater threat is: some ragheads who got lucky with a few planes or wasteful spending, the country $9 trillion in debt, we import more than we export in dangerous proportions, and we keep printing money which is devaluing the dollar... which will ultimately lead to those countries that are holding our notes to dump them for better investments. I think the bigger threat is very, very obvious.

[Timberwolf]

I'm really happy that I don't wake up every morning thinking THAT!
Too bad for you...one day, if the country votes for your guy, you will wake up one day with a scimitar at your throat and the dude on the other end of it will be telling you, "Worship allah or lose your head."

That's really asinine NT. To arrive at that conclusion because Ron wants to pull the plug on a war that is impossible to win by attrition (you can't kill ideas), and a war that we can't afford, really astounds me.You want to fight it over there or over here? I opt for the former.

Let us just say that the terrorist threat is as imminent as you purport.It is...make NO mistake about that.

Say Islam has finally conquered Europe (after we have deposed the leaders of all of the middle eastern countries) and turned it into a giant cesspool of religious hate and Sharia law.Pull yer head outta yer ass. Islam IS conquering Europe! Look at Denmark, Britain, France, Spain...muzzies have made their inroads and are now dictating policy.

How do you propose that we pay our soldiers and build our planes and tanks and manufacture our bullets when the dollar has become worthless due to government spending?By ending welfare? Just a guess. Maybe we could put all the welfare recipients to work in the factories that produce the goods you've mentioned.

I'm not just talking about the war, I am also talking about the entitlement generation sucking Aunt Sam's teet and the baby boomers bankrupting Social Security, which then the government will have to pay into to make sure the 70 million old people don't go hungry.Privatize SS and we won't have to worry about it. But, if your guy gets his way, we won't have to worry about it because a nuke will go off in NYC by the end of his 2nd year in office because we will have allowed the fight to come to us.

How to you propose we fight this global jihad then?The way we have been seems to be working fairly well.

It all comes back to money NT. That's why I support Ron Paul first and foremost. He wants to cut spending, get rid of wasteful departments that are unconstitutional and serve no purpose (Department of Education immediately comes to mind!), and try and cut these problems off at the pass.Good for him...seems to me, Fred wants to do that, too.

He wants to abolish the Fed, which is the organization that creates the bubbles that always burst as well as printing new money which makes everyone's dollar have less value. He wants to get rid of the fiat money policy that encourages wasteful spending at the expense of us, the tax payers.Too bad there isn't enough gold, silver, platinum, and rhodium in the world to put us ON the "gold" standard...so, get over it, Chuckles.

War on Terror or not, the most important issue on the table is monetary policy, hands down. It is THAT which enables us to defend ourselves, it is THAT which enables our economy to thrive, it is THAT that ensures American's standard of living remains so high compared to the rest of the world.If ignorance is bliss, you've got to be the happiest buffoon on the planet. If we don't keep terrorism at bay, we WON'T HAVE an economy TO worry about!! Capice??

It is THAT which ultimately ensures our survival. I think we have to take a good long look at who the greater threat is: some ragheads who got lucky with a few planesLUCKY?? If you keep your head in your ass, you're only gonna get a crappy hairdo...and ring around the collar. :rolleyes:

or wasteful spending,How can RP reduce the wasteful spending? Seems to me that's something for Congress to do.

the country $9 trillion in debt,Are YOU debt free? I'm not. My debt is manageable as is the US debt. Again, pull yer head out.

we import more than we export in dangerous proportions, and we keep printing money which is devaluing the dollar...Agreed...again, HOW is RP going to be able to affect either one?

which will ultimately lead to those countries that are holding our notes to dump them for better investments. I think the bigger threat is very, very obvious.Don't BS yourself...when Wall Street sneezes, the world gets the flu. It is still true. Those foreign countries dump our bonds and they commit economic suicide.

So then, WHY should anyone vote for a man who voted to send our troops into harms way and now wants to cut off the funding necessary for them to complete their mission?

I'm voting for Fred, I suggest you do the same.

[gnome]

It all comes back to money NT. That's why I support Ron Paul first and foremost. He wants to cut spending, get rid of wasteful departments that are unconstitutional and serve no purpose (Department of Education immediately comes to mind!), and try and cut these problems off at the pass. He wants to abolish the Fed, which is the organization that creates the bubbles that always burst as well as printing new money which makes everyone's dollar have less value. He wants to get rid of the fiat money policy that encourages wasteful spending at the expense of us, the tax payers.

Are you aware of the reasons the gold standard was given up, and the reasons the Fed operates the way it does? If you want to suggest that the leadership of the Federal Reserve banks are making poor decisions that's one thing... but what you suggest is akin to taking the gas pedal and brake out of a car because you don't like the driver.

Wealth is not measured in gold but in production.

[jayson]

You want to fight it over there or over here? I opt for the former.

Even though we can't afford it? Money just can't be printed out of thin air.

By ending welfare? Just a guess. Maybe we could put all the welfare recipients to work in the factories that produce the goods you've mentioned.

Ending welfare alone isn't the only thing we need to do. So far, the war on terror has consumed $1.6 trillion dollars (by conservative estimates, some studies put it at $3.5 trillion). We need to realize that this war on terror is sucking up so much cash that there is no way we can sustain it monetarily.

But, if your guy gets his way, we won't have to worry about it because a nuke will go off in NYC by the end of his 2nd year in office because we will have allowed the fight to come to us.

Like I said, I sure am happy I don't wake up in that mindset everyday.

Too bad there isn't enough gold, silver, platinum, and rhodium in the world to put us ON the "gold" standard...so, get over it, Chuckles.

You don't need a strictly gold backed currency. You could do other things like introduce a competing currency or tie the dollar to the price of gold.

If ignorance is bliss, you've got to be the happiest buffoon on the planet. If we don't keep terrorism at bay, we WON'T HAVE an economy TO worry about!! Capice??

No comprende. My point is exactly the opposite to yours. If we keep allowing this rampant debasement of our currency, runaway spending and the inflationary "tax", we won't be able to defend ourselves from legitimate enemies in the first place!

LUCKY?? If you keep your head in your ass, you're only gonna get a crappy hairdo...and ring around the collar.

So if they weren't lucky, then what were they? Highly trained masterminds? I think not!

How can RP reduce the wasteful spending? Seems to me that's something for Congress to do.

One man cannot do it alone. He would, however, be planting these ideas in generations to come... the same generations that will bear the burden of cleaning up this mess that we have been left with.

Are YOU debt free? I'm not. My debt is manageable as is the US debt. Again, pull yer head out.

I am debt free, yes. I don't buy something if I don't have the money in the bank and can afford it in the long run. I use debit cards instead of credit cards. My college tuition was paid by me. I don't own a home, but then again I don't need to at this point in my life.

Agreed...again, HOW is RP going to be able to affect either one?

Same answer as above.

I'm voting for Fred, I suggest you do the same.

I'm all for people supporting their candidate. But I'm still sticking with Ron.

[jayson]

If you want to suggest that the leadership of the Federal Reserve banks are making poor decisions that's one thing... but what you suggest is akin to taking the gas pedal and brake out of a car because you don't like the driver.

I can't fathom for a moment why you would prefer to have the Federal Reserve in charge of the value of your dollar, when the Constitution clearly states that Congress is to have this authority? At least with Congress, they are somewhat accountable.

[Timberwolf]

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
You want to fight it over there or over here? I opt for the former.
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Even though we can't afford it? Money just can't be printed out of thin air.
I thought you just said that's exactly what the Fed was doing...which is it? Can we or can't we?

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
By ending welfare? Just a guess. Maybe we could put all the welfare recipients to work in the factories that produce the goods you've mentioned.
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Ending welfare alone isn't the only thing we need to do. So far, the war on terror has consumed $1.6 trillion dollars (by conservative estimates, some studies put it at $3.5 trillion). We need to realize that this war on terror is sucking up so much cash that there is no way we can sustain it monetarily.
What was the impact on our economy in the aftermath of 9/11? NYC lost $17 Billion ALONE. Not to mention the effect on travel, stocks, insurance rates, lawsuits, the service industries, etc...then again, how DOES one put a price on the 3000 lives lost in the ONE attack?

MONEY is the least of our worries. It's really sad that you can't see that.

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
But, if your guy gets his way, we won't have to worry about it because a nuke will go off in NYC by the end of his 2nd year in office because we will have allowed the fight to come to us.
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Like I said, I sure am happy I don't wake up in that mindset everyday.
You're not paying attention to world events and therefore, I must conclude you don't frequent the realm of reality.

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
Too bad there isn't enough gold, silver, platinum, and rhodium in the world to put us ON the "gold" standard...so, get over it, Chuckles.
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You don't need a strictly gold backed currency. You could do other things like introduce a competing currency or tie the dollar to the price of gold.
That is not what RP advocates, though. Besides, look up those precious metals I've listed...Silver is presently $14+/oz...Gold is $840+...Platinum is $1500+...Rhodium is almost $6800/oz. And if we used all 4 there still ain't enough to cover OUR currency, let alone other currencies.

Besides, you say "you could go to other things"...got news for ya Chuckles...we already HAVE. Our currency is tied to our productivity.

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
If ignorance is bliss, you've got to be the happiest buffoon on the planet. If we don't keep terrorism at bay, we WON'T HAVE an economy TO worry about!! Capice??
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No comprende. My point is exactly the opposite to yours. If we keep allowing this rampant debasement of our currency, runaway spending and the inflationary "tax", we won't be able to defend ourselves from legitimate enemies in the first place!
I don't like the inflationary nature of our currency any more than you do. BUT, I realize that we must deal with REALITY, not THEORY. Truth is, RP could do little to change things because EVERYONE in Congress would be working against him. The Demunists cuz he's a "Republican" and the Republicans because he's stabbed our troops in the back. Not a real rosy outlook.

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
LUCKY?? If you keep your head in your ass, you're only gonna get a crappy hairdo...and ring around the collar.
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So if they weren't lucky, then what were they? Highly trained masterminds? I think not!
You weren't paying attention 6 years ago were you? They were trained pilots. They were trained RIGHT HERE IN THE USA...on expired visas. I suggest you Google "Operation Bojinka" and buy a clue. Oh heck, I've already done it...here:
Operation Bojinka (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=operation_bojinka)

Operation Bojinka (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bust_and_boom.html)

http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/world-trade-center-attack.html (http://%5BSIZE=2)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID={245984FA-D9DF-46E9-8EF3-7B5259A51C0D} (http://%5B/SIZE)
Naaaah, they didn't mastermind 9/11...not at all...
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How can RP reduce the wasteful spending? Seems to me that's something for Congress to do.
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One man cannot do it alone. He would, however, be planting these ideas in generations to come... the same generations that will bear the burden of cleaning up this mess that we have been left with.
Yeah, Fred would too...thing is, he hasn't stabbed our troops in the back...and he'd have the luxury of having the support of about half the Congress (possibly more).

Quote: <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Timberwolf http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/../images/patriot/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=620011#post620011)
Are YOU debt free? I'm not. My debt is manageable as is the US debt. Again, pull yer head out.
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I am debt free, yes. I don't buy something if I don't have the money in the bank and can afford it in the long run. I use debit cards instead of credit cards. My college tuition was paid by me. I don't own a home, but then again I don't need to at this point in my life.
Be VERY careful with debit cards...they have NOWHERE NEAR the safeguards a credit card does. Besides, if you pay off the credit card every month, what's the difference?

So, you're wasting your money on rent? How fiscally responsible is that?

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Agreed...again, HOW is RP going to be able to affect either one?
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Same answer as above.
Ditto.

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I'm voting for Fred, I suggest you do the same.
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I'm all for people supporting their candidate. But I'm still sticking with Ron.That is not a very logical, nor rational response, but it is your decision to make.

Heaven help us if you get your way...

[DoctorDoom]

It will be President Ron Paul when

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[Timberwolf]

LOL!!!

[The_Elucidator]

jayson was the one Rupaul supporter that I had hopes for.......but.....

This is why RP is full of shit...

Protecting the citizens is the ONE thing that the Constitution does allow us to spend money on. You and the rest of the Rupauletts keep defending Rupauls lie of the "illegal" war and saying that it is/will bankrupt us. There are many things that ARE bankrupting us and this war ain't it. That's like saying we need to stop making our house payment because it takes money away from our cable, phone, high speed internet, cell phone, landscaper, pool maintenance and eating out...

And if you think for one minute that the GWOT is not necessary, then there is no hope for you!!

[gnome]

I can't fathom for a moment why you would prefer to have the Federal Reserve in charge of the value of your dollar, when the Constitution clearly states that Congress is to have this authority? At least with Congress, they are somewhat accountable.

This is really a different question than whether to tie it to gold isn't it?