NH: Jailed in Defense of the Constitution

[DadaOrwell]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xUtYGrGbcyM

Would welcome Bearpitter feedback on this video-illustrated version of my civil disobedience story. I was jailed earlier this year for handing respectful leaflets to IRS workers, then refusing to pay the Federal "distribution of handbills" fine...a penalty which violates Amendments One and Ten. But I was not alone even then!

Now, Ron Paul has advocated civil disobedience...and he has millions of supporters. I wonder if some of them will step forward with civil disobedience of their own?

[jayson]

So you are the guy in the video who was jailed for attempting to hand out leaflets to IRS workers?

[DadaOrwell]

So you are the guy in the video who was jailed for attempting to hand out leaflets to IRS workers?

yep, well i'm the second guy who did it not the first.

for the first few minutes you learn about the guy Russell Kanning who did it in July 06...then later the story becomes more about my own experience when I imitated him.

[Gonzo67]

Well, if you are the maker of that video, and you want an honest critique....

I warn you, I'm not gentle.

First off, the next one you make (God forbid there BE a next one) Don't try to be "funny" Because you don't pull it off. Try speaking in a NORMAL voice if you want people to take your "cause" seriously. The way you presented it, your whole "activist agenda" was nothing more than a sad little joke.

Second, if I had to listen to that annoying ass "free keen dot com" with the notepad moving in and out one more time, I was going to become an activist for dropafukingnukeonkeen.com Seriously dude, you're not funny.

Second, try segments that are more than 2 seconds in length, without the constant cutting and splicing. It's distracting, and made me want to turn the video off after the first 3 seconds. Seriously, I had to force myself to NOT gouge out my own eyes and eat my own frigging brain.

Finally, your video, to me, doesn't sound like so much of an "activist" as it does yet another bleeding heart liberal butt-nugget that believes the US is guilty of war crimes and unnecessary "torture" of those poor oppressed terrorists. Tell ya what, you don't like paying taxes to support our troops? You think America is the "bad guy" in this war, then I got your solution right here...

It's called a turban and a plane ticket to go live with them rag headed camel fuking terrorists you apparently feel so bad for. Take your ass OUT of this country, and you wont have to pay them taxes you're so broken up over.

There, that's my critique of that joke of a video. I hope it helped, though I realize it was probably not what you were looking for. But you asked.

[Lazarus]

I dont agree with Civil Disobedience as a method of achieving political goals...

We have a legitimate legal system thru which such grievances can be aired... Civil Disobediance, despite all its romantic glorification in our shallow pop culture, is nothing less than a popular system of anarchy and lawlessness... And in most cases the one exercising such methods succumbs to the attraction of living outside the law... Such is the stuff that terrorists are made of...

Get a constitutional lawyer - Go to court...

[Gonzo67]

Civil Disobedience, despite all its romantic glorification in our shallow pop culture, is nothing less than a popular system of anarchy and lawlessness...


I disagree. There is a time and a reason for "civil disobedience", but it's NOT because "Ron Paul says it's cool".

Our own Revolutionary war was the ultimate act of "civil disobedience". But if you are going to resort to that method, you need to be sure that the majority of the population is willing to stand with you.

This crap of not paying your taxes because you don't like how terrorist prisoners are being treated is not "civil disobedience", it's nothing more than blind, idiotic liberalism.

All these little no brain, self glorifying "activists" are nothing more than pathetic jokes. People like the creator of this so called "video protest" are nothing more than mindless sheep. Doing it because they think "it's cool". They have no clue what the hell is going on, because their brain is completely taxed by the act of making their cute little signs.

They cry about how terrorists are being "victimized" and "tortured" by this cruel evil empire we named America. They want us to rally to their ignorant, and idiotic banners to stop the injustice that's being committed against these poor, helpless little terrorists that are sitting in prison. But they all have one thing in common. For all their speeches, and for all their slogans, I've never seen one tear shed by them for the AMERICAN people in those terrorist countries being "tortured". I've never heard one word of protest out of their pathetic mouths for the AMERICAN CIVILIANS that were killed in terrorists attacks here on our shores.

Personally, I think it's a damn shame that one or two of those American Citizens killed by terrorists were not their children, or mothers, or fathers, or sisters or brothers. Had a member of THEIR family been killed in those attacks, I wonder what kind of "civil disobedience" they'd be conducting today? I wonder what the pamphlets this asshat was passing out would have said if HIS child was killed on 9-11? Or if HIS brother was beheaded in some dirty alley in Afghanistan? As a matter of fact, I wonder just how many alquida "freedom fighters" this asshole has invited into his house for a nice home cooked meal?

But you know, I agree with one thing they are saying. I agree that we should STOP torturing these prisoners. It's boring. been there, done that... it's getting old.

I propose we instead, drag these worthless sacks of shit OUT of their cells by their ankles, and drag them into the street. I propose we saw each and every one of their heads off. I want to see the little children dancing and laughing in puddles of their blood while they're happily pissing on their rotting carcasses. And I want it all video taped. I want the video to be shown on the news, every hour, on the hour. I want copies of it sent to the families of the executed, formerly "tortured" terrorists. Wrapped in little red bows. Cute little tags saying To: Mother Abdul, with much love, America. And I want copies sent to the leaders of these terrorist supporting nations, with an invitation to come visit us. I want them to know what waits for them when they get here. I want them to look at those video tapes and understand, This is how we say "Welcome to our country you piece of shit".

And when we're done, if the little activists want to keep complaining, well, we can just call them terrorists too.

I have no love for the terrorists rotting in our prisons right now, and I have even LESS love for the traitorous little assholes who want to sympathize for them, while totally disregarding their fellow countrymen who have been butchered by these animals. People like the maker of this video are beyond contempt, deserve only scorn and ridicule, and have no place in this country. They should be down on their hands and knees kissing the ass of every American they see, because they have YET to even begin to earn the name "American".

[Lazarus]

I disagree. There is a time and a reason for "civil disobedience", but it's NOT because "Ron Paul says it's cool".

Our own Revolutionary war was the ultimate act of "civil disobedience"..Not so... Ours was a War for Independance, not a Revolution to overthrow King George nor a pathetic act of Civil Disobedience - and to make the comparison belittles the incredible sacrifice those men and women made on behave of establishing a free and sovereign nation...

Civil Disobedience is a tantrum thrown by self-absorbed social rebels looking for public attention... There is no honor nor virtue in it whatsoever...

On this point we'll just have to disagree...

[DesertFox]

Well, it WAS a revolution but it was NOT an act of civil disobedience.

To be sure, these concepts can all be spread along a continuum. Much of how they're used depends on one's preference in semantics. But a revolution is a complete overthrow of the existing order, whereas civil disobedience implies no such overthrow, but rather reform.

[PrezLeefun]

And civil disobedience can be good IMO. Thats what helped snowball the civil rights movement.

[namvet527]

Ru Paul is a supporter of all the LEFT WING ANTI IRAQ WAR TREASONOUS BUFFOONs?

This guy is so left wing he makes mccain seem like a staunch conservative & that is saying something.

Anyone who is against the Iraq war does not understand terrorism or how to defend America.

Jayson have you ever been to war? I HAVE. I have seen the horrors of war & see friends die. I hate war. But I hate to be a slave of another worse. You do not stay free hidding your head in the sand.

Iraq war has been a big part of keeping America safe since 911. Hiding your head in the sand like sick willie KKKlintoon did for 8 yrs. brought us one terrorist attack after another culminating in 911.

I don't consider ru paul supporters conservatives. I consider them whacko liberals.

[namvet527]

Civil Disobedience Is Liberal Anarchy. Either You Believe In The Rule Of Law, Like A Conservative, Or You Don't, Like A Liberal.

You can not pick & choose which law you want to obey & not obey. Civil disobedienc is blatant LIBERALISM.

That is a big reason for this illegal alien travesty. Liberals do not want to ENFORCE LAWS on the books already concerning illegal aliens.

[PrezLeefun]

^^^ That is such a load of crap. Civil disobedience can be carried out by anyone with a cause whether good or bad, conservative or liberal.

The letter of the law is NOT always right. Roe v. Wade for instance is the letter of law and yet is it the perverse legalization of attacking innocent life.

Let me give you some advice. Watch what you post on here. No one here is gonna let you rant and be an ass.

[DesertFox]

:yeahthat:

[DadaOrwell]

Civil disobedience preceded the armed revolution...it included refusal to comply with the Stamp Act tax and refusal to buy British clothing.

[Rhino]

Civil disobedience preceded the armed revolution...In:
The Soviet Union
China
North Korea
Vietnam
...

Civil disobedience does not necessarily make a cause just. And has been previously noted, since this is not in the interest of independence, there is no comparison to our revolution.

[Timberwolf]

The letter of the law is NOT always right. Roe v. Wade for instance is the letter of law and yet is it the perverse legalization of attacking innocent life.
No, it isn't. It is one case that was to address ONE woman's situation. It has been bastardized and used by the leftists to make murder (absent due process) and irresponsible behavior, acceptable.

But, to date, Congress has passed NO law, yea or nay, considering abortion (except partial birth, I believe). Therefore, it is NOT the letter of the law, nor is it the law of the land...and if the executive branch would do its job, we wouldn't be murdering 1.5 MILLION innocents every year.

[Gonzo67]

I'm no advocate for or against abortion, but I have to fully agree with Timber on this one. Far too many people hold up their little "Roe V Wade signs and point at them saying "See! It's 'The Law'" and that's flat out wrong. It is NOT a "law" it's a DECISION. It's a Ruling by a COURT. And it's nothing more than a little spot on the wall for lawyers to point at and say "See, they let her get away with it, so it's only fair you let MY client get away with it.".

People need to quit trying to cite Roe versus Wade in support of there being a LAW that allows abortions. It's simply inaccurate. It's not true in the least. Precedents are NOT "laws". They do not HAVE to be followed.