NEW HAMPSHIRE; Ron Paul and his minions are lying about immigration!

[The_Elucidator]

Ron Paul's minions have been screaming about using troops on the border...His voting record says that he and his minions are full of shit!!! :rotflmbo:

Spin this Freaks! (http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TX&VIPID=787)

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Voted against authorizing the use of the military to assist in border control functions in 2005





</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep. Paul voted against the H. Amdt. 206 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HZ00206:) to H.R. 1815. The amendment authorizes the Secretary of Defense to assign members of the military, under certain circumstances, to assist the Bureau of Border Security and U.S. Customs Service of the Department of Homeland Security on preventing the entry of terrorists, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens into the United States The amendment, sponsored by Rep. Goode of Virginia, passed the House by a vote of 245-184 (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll214.xml).

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</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep. Paul voted against the Goode Amendment (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HZ00532:) to H.R. 4200, to authorize the Secretary of Defense to assign members of the military, under certain circumstances, to assist the Department of Homeland Security in the performance of border control functions. The Goode Amendment passed the House by a vote of 231-191 (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll196.xml).
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Voted against using the military to assist in border control functions in 2003





</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep. Paul voted AGAINST the Goode Amendment to H.R. 1588 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d108:2:./temp/~bdZopL::), to authorize members of the military, under certain circumstances, to assist the Department of Homeland Security in the performance of border control functions. The Goode Amendment passed the House by a vote of 250-179 (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll206.xml).


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=520 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Voted against authorizing the use of the military to assist in border control efforts in 2002 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep. Paul voted against H. Amdt. 479 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d107:9:./temp/~bdzisP::) to H.R. 4546 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR04546:@@@L&summ2=m&#summary), the Department of Defense Authorization bill. The amendment authorized the Secretary of Defense to assign members of the military, under certain circumstances, to assist the Bureau of Border Security and U.S. Customs Service of the Department of Homeland Security on preventing the entry of terrorists, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens into the United States The amendment, sponsored by Rep. Goode of Virginia, passed the House by a vote of 232-183 (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll154.xml).





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</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep. Paul voted AGAINST enforcing the border by opposing the Traficant amendment to H.R.4205. This amendment authorizes the Secretary of Defense to assign, under certain circumstances, members of the Armed Forces to assist the INS with border control duties. The Traficant amendment passed by a vote of 243 to 183 (http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2000&rollnumber=197), but the Clinton Administration never chose to exercise this power.









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[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Oops!

[DoctorDoom]

The "explanations" should be amusing. Bring 'em on, Pauloids.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

The "explanations" should be amusing. Bring 'em on, Pauloids.

Izzat anything like hemorrhoids? Ooh, painful! :smirky:

[THEBIRD]

None of you have worked in politics I see. He has talked about some of those bills in particular in the past and I'll see if I can find the transcript from the interview I read online about in particular 2586.

Poison pills are put into bills to kill them. That bill in particular was never even viewed by the Senate because it was loaded with poison pills.

PORK!!!!!!!!!

Also why Paul has voted against pro-life bills in the past. He has made it very clear that he is pro-life but when you have a bunch of greedy gut congressmen in D.C. willing to get their hands on money any way they can....then you will have people like Ron Paul voting against these bills!

And GOD BLESS HIM FOR THAT!!!!

Our current president sees nothing wrong with pork! That is the change I'm looking for.

Those bills you listed, if you look closely at the entire bill....you will probably see all kinds of things not related to the bill inside the bill.

I spend time in Jeff City and see it all the time on a state level and it happens on the fed level just as much if not more so.

AND THAT IS NOT SPIN! JUST FACTS!!! :thumb:

Ron Paul is very much PRO-LIFE and VERY MUCH FOR CLOSING OUR BORDERS!!!!!

[Suzie]

Well he seems to be a fan of Pork when it's on his plate. He sure has raked it in.

[THEBIRD]

Well he seems to be a fan of Pork when it's on his plate. He sure has raked it in.

He has explained his position on that....quit trying to change the subject.

[Suzie]

You brought up pork I didn't. And he has indeed had his fair share of it regardless of his "explanation". And as the original post says.....

His voting record says that he and his minions are full of shit!!! :rotflmbo:

[DoctorDoom]

'Nuff said. Mr. Spinjob spouts again. If Paul raped a Girl Scout on the Capitol steps, the Pauloids would claim that she asked for it. :rolleyes:

Reality time, Pauloids: there is only one God, and He isn't RuPaul.

[jayson]

I love it! You all must be really worried that Paul might place in 3rd or 4th and edge out FDT in Iowa. I surely wouldn't go through all this trouble for a "non-contender". :rotflmbo:

As for the earmarks bit, here is a good example of how earmarks work:

Suppose you and 2 co-workers have a common lunch fund. You are debating over what to order for lunch. You prefer Chinese food which costs less, but your two buddies want a fancy pizza with all the toppings.

Before you actually vote on where to order lunch from, you make it clear to them that if pizza wins, you are "earmarking" two slices for yourself. What the heck...it's YOUR money.

When the vote is cast, you vote AGAINST the fancy pizza expenditure in favor of the more economical Chinese food.

When you lose the vote, aren't you still entitled to the slices that you "earmarked" and paid for?

Ron Paul puts his earmarks in, but ALWAYS VOTES AGAINST THE FINAL BILL. When he loses the vote (which he always does because he is the most fiscally responsible man in Congress), he gets money earmarked for his district. If he doesn't earmark...that money will be spent elsewhere!...So if you don't mark your slices, your buddies get to screw you out of lunch.

[THEBIRD]

Don't bother Jayson. None of the above have ever worked in the sausage factory. They don't know.

[The_Elucidator]

'Nuff said. Mr. Spinjob spouts again. If Paul raped a Girl Scout on the Capitol steps, the Pauloids would claim that she asked for it. :rolleyes:

Reality time, Pauloids: there is only one God, and He isn't RuPaul.

Football 49

Monkey 0

Game over!!!

[The_Elucidator]

As for the earmarks bit, here is a good example of how earmarks work:



We know how earmarks work dork! But if he is serious about putting troops on the border he would have voted for it anyway. Sometimes one has to make tough decisions; and it is painfully obvious by his BS voting record that he can't.



http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m212/omahabob/moonbat200.jpg

[garlicguy]

We know how earmarks work dork! But if he is serious about putting troops on the border he would have voted for it anyway. Sometimes one has to make tough decisions; and it is painfully obvious by his BS voting record that he can't.



http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m212/omahabob/moonbat200.jpg

Luc: Shame on you! That's a picture of a moonbat, not an earmark! Although moonbats do bear a little resembles to an earwig. Maybe you were just being confused again??? :biggrin:

[Beowulf]

I love it! You all must be really worried that Paul might place in 3rd or 4th and edge out FDT in Iowa. I surely wouldn't go through all this trouble for a "non-contender". :rotflmbo:

That's not the point, Jayson. Paul got caught lying on immigration based on all those bills he voted against. It's obvious you and your Paul supporter friends can't handle that he's been busted!

Don't bother Jayson. None of the above have ever worked in the sausage factory. They don't know.
Bird, if you think that congressional pork is ever going to go away then you are delusional. Do I like it? No. would I like to see it reduced? Yes. Am I willing to put the security of my country on a back burner over some of this pork? Hell no!
If we were to vote down every bill over pork, even less than the nothing that is going on would get done!

[The_Elucidator]

Luc: Shame on you! That's a picture of a moonbat, not an earmark! Although moonbats do bear a little resembles to an earwig. Maybe you were just being confused again??? :biggrin:

Sorry, my photobucket doesn't have earmarks in it.... :smirky:

[The_Elucidator]

That's not the point, Jayson. Paul got caught lying on immigration based on all those bills he voted against. It's obvious you and your Paul supporter friends can't handle that he's been busted!


Bird, if you think that congressional pork is ever going to go away then you are delusional. Do I like it? No. would I like to see it reduced? Yes. Am I willing to put the security of my country on a back burner over some of this pork? Hell no!
If we were to vote down every bill over pork, even less than the nothing that is going on would get done!

EXACTLY, and I mean EXACTLY what the Beo dude opined.... :biggrin:

[jayson]

It's obvious you and your Paul supporter friends can't handle that he's been busted!

"We" can't handle it because there is nothing to handle in the first place. There just isn't anything to bust. :rolleyes:

[Beowulf]

"We" can't handle it because there is nothing to handle in the first place. There just isn't anything to bust. :rolleyes:
Oh really? Then I suggest you re-read the first post of this thread. This time, do it carefully!

[Bluemoon_Rising]

:deadhorse:

[TeenageRepublican]

'Nuff said. Mr. Spinjob spouts again. If Paul raped a Girl Scout on the Capitol steps, the Pauloids would claim that she asked for it. :rolleyes:

But... but... the Girl Scout gave him only two boxes of cookies instead of three...

[Maggie_T]

(shaking head) Rupaulists' fanatic devotion to their patron saint reminds me of the followers of Charlie Manson: for them, he just could do NOTHING wrong. Paulies are the same.

Incredible. And I thought Clintonistas were fanatics. :rolleyes: Rupaulies put pro-Hillary dykes and castrati to shame.