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MSGT
01-23-2008, 09:01 PM
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US heatwave, kills 10,000 June-Sept 1980
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April 1999
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MSGT
01-23-2008, 09:02 PM
It's not mine. You can google the title and it comes up on several pages.

Rhino
01-24-2008, 07:47 AM
Moved to more appropriate forum.

Timberwolf
01-24-2008, 11:51 AM
My cousin point out the correlation between natural disasters here in the states and implemented US policy that "thumbed its nose" at God's law. That was 25 years ago...I see nothing has changed.

MSGT
01-25-2008, 11:11 AM
I guess this is an ok place for this. I was trying to have an intelligent discussion on the matter though.

Conspiracy theories exist because people can see a plan or designed set of movements behind some action that can't be explained.. and when the investigation is completed.. and there was no plot to make said occurrence happen people do not believe the investigation. They just don't add to the equation, the spiritual forces at work.

Now, I won't defend everything on this list because some have too far a time line. There are much better list out but I couldn't find one when I posted this. I'll look further when I feel better. Nah, I've already been moved to the twilight zone:D. I better just leave it alone. I started looking as I listened to a speaker {no, I didn't catch his name or I would have his info} that tied several U.S. disasters in 07 to U.S. policy towards Israel within 2 days of a speech or visit from Condi.

I believe the Word of God. I believe if you try to divide the land of Israel, look out. I'll bet money if any land is given up, a great disaster will hit within a week. Just ask Sharon, oops can't do that.:D

ThomasMore
01-25-2008, 11:55 AM
If you believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then you believe that He will keep His word.

If you believe that Jesus arose from the dead, and trust Him with your salvation, than you believe that He performs the supernatural, and that He cares enough about each of our lives to intervene for each individual.

And Jehovah saith unto Abram, 'Go for thyself, from thy land, and from thy kindred, and from the house of thy father, unto the land which I shew thee. And I make thee become a great nation, and bless thee, and make thy name great; and be thou a blessing. And I bless those blessing thee, and him who is disesteeming thee I curse, and blessed in thee have been all families of the ground.' (Genesis 12:1-3)

And Isaac his father saith to [Jacob]...nations bow themselves to thee...those who curse thee are cursed, and those who bless thee are blessed.' (Genesis 27:26, 29)

And Balaam seeth that it is good in the eyes of Jehovah to bless Israel...He eateth up nations his adversaries, And their bones he breaketh, And with his arrows he smiteth...He who is blessing thee is blessed, And he who is cursing thee is cursed.' (Numbers 24:1, 8-9)

[The] honour of Jehovah hath risen on thee...For the nation and the kingdom that do not serve thee perish, Yea, the nations are utterly wasted...And bowed themselves to the soles of thy feet Have all despising thee, And they have cried to thee: 'City of Jehovah, Zion of the Holy One of Israel.' (Isaiah 60:1, 12, 14)

I can't say whether or not each of the events MSGT presented was directly related, but I do believe that God blesses those who bless Israel, and God curses those who curse Israel.

MSGT
01-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Zecharaiah 12:1-3
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

MSGT
01-25-2008, 12:39 PM
1st post edited to take out a couple of incidents that I couldn't see a link in.