McCain's Clintonesque Lie About Romney and Iraq Is Disappointing

[Naturalized-Texan]

McCain's Clintonesque Lie About Romney and Iraq Is Disappointing (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012808/content/01125108.guest.html)

So anyway, Saturday afternoon it got desperate here in Florida for the Senator McCain campaign. It's been written about all weekend. I don't know if you have been following it, but Kathryn Lopez at National Review Online has the best summary of this: "On Saturday afternoon, the McCain campaign issued the following statement: 'Mitt Romney's position on the war in Iraq has been a study in flexibility. Like every other issue of importance in this race, Mitt Romney has changed his position. On April 3, 2007, he advocated secret timetables for withdrawal from Iraq. His exact words were "of course you have to work together to create timetables and milestones." In October 2007, Romney said that Hillary Clinton, who supports Iraq withdrawal, is "not going to be demanding a dramatically different course in Iraq than the Republican nominee will." These statements, along with Romney's inability to stick with a consistent position, provide further evidence that he lacks the critical experience and judgment necessary to lead as commander in chief.'"

Now, this was totally dishonest. This attack by Senator McCain just wasn't true. Romney has never advocated timetables. The New York Times labeled this as untrue. The AP leveled it as untrue. Senator McCain had to change the subject because I think they got some bad polling data to indicate that they had to change the subject. But this really roiled a lot of people over the weekend. This was just blatant, this was just an out-and-out lie, and many people thought that the McCain camp thought they would get away with it because of their love and slavish devotion of the Drive-By Media. But it didn't work. He didn't get away with it. It remains to be seen what impact it will have on primary voters in Florida tomorrow. My friend Andrew McCarthy had the funniest take on this. I so wanted to steal this as my own, but I have ethics, and I think when people come up with great stuff, they deserve the credit for it. Andrew McCarthy, on Saturday afternoon in the midst of all of this, said, "I'm starting to think Senator McCain should not be allowed to mention the other candidates' names within 30 days before a primary."

[Naturalized-Texan]

Dishonor on the Campaign Trail (http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MzZhZWZlM2MzZjYzZTRmOTA4YzNmMmZiOTRmODBkYmM=)
By Kathryn Jean Lopez

On Saturday afternoon, the McCain campaign issued the following statement: “Mitt Romney’s position on the war in Iraq has been a study in flexibility. Like every other issue of importance in this race, Mitt Romney has changed his position. On April 3, 2007 he advocated secret timetables for withdrawal from Iraq. His exact words were ‘of course you have to work together to create timetables and milestones.’ In October 2007, Romney said that Hillary Clinton, who supports Iraq withdrawal, is ‘not going to be demanding a dramatically different course in Iraq than the Republican nominee will.’ These statements, along with Romney’s inability to stick with a consistent position, provide further evidence that he lacks the critical experience and judgment necessary to lead as commander in chief.”

It was a dishonest line of attack. During an April TV interview — as anyone who clicked on a link that was provided to me by the McCain campaign can see for themselves — Mitt Romney said that of course there have to be some agreed-upon benchmarks for progress (including, yes, timetables) between the U.S. and Iraq, at least privately. John McCain himself had been suggesting something even more official (http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/byauthor/166271), but along the same lines, in January of the same year.

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Whenever I’m worried I may be getting too critical of one of our Republican frontrunners, I tend to use Bill Bennett as a barometer. Bennett is a fan of all the primary/caucus winners with the exception of Huckabee (who’s piling on, too, in this dishonest attack on Romney). On CNN Saturday night, Bennett called on John McCain to apologize.

That would be honorable. John McCain and Mitt Romney are on the same side of this war. To pretend otherwise is wrong and is no honorable way to win.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Nixon, uh, I mean McCain (I get them confused.) is a lying piece of shit straight talk

[DesertFox]

:lol:

'Cain got some bad poop. Somebody didn't do his homework before opening his yap.

[Timberwolf]

Ya see, Tex? We agree on McCain!! LOL

[Uncle Ruckus]

HUMBUG!!!! He is taking notes straight from William Jefferson Clinton folks……..The COFFEE, the COFFEE. (Wake up and smell it maybe?) :rotflmbo:

[DeclinetoState]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/promos/politics/blog/29mccain-clinton190.jpg

Need I say more?

[Rhino]

"I'm starting to think Senator McCain should not be allowed to mention the other candidates' names within 30 days before a primary."http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/doggie.gif

[maxparrish]

Well today Rasmussen has the Florida race as a tie, and the Real Politics Average has a slight lead for McCain. I hope Romney can pull it out and stop this scum bag.

The real problem is the fractured field. In any two person race, I know that either Rudi or Mitt could flatten McCain. But Huckabee fractured the conservative vote, and McCain has been "winning" with a 33% or less of the vote AND 5-10% of that were independents.

The party majority hates McCain. A brokered convention will allow party representatives consider someone who might unite.

God I pray McCain loses to ANYONE...we wll have to wait.

[Lazarus]

Andrew McCarthy, on Saturday afternoon in the midst of all of this, said, "I'm starting to think Senator McCain should not be allowed to mention the other candidates' names within 30 days before a primary." Rush commented on this statement the other day saying it was so brilliant that he wished he had said it himself...

It is in relation to the McCain/Feingold Anti-Free-Speech Bill which prohibits political groups from running any ads 30 days prior to a primary... Therefore, conveniently the little Tyrannt McCain can say all the lies and spin he wants to about his opponents but their organizations can't refute his lies - its now illegal...

A taylor-made piece of tyranny that dovetails nicely with McCain's style of disingenuous campaigning... This is the kind of president McCain will be... The man has no integrity - He will not suddenly develop some on the day he wins the Whitehouse...

[Kathy30]

As of this morning, McCain as a 4% lead. I sincerely hope that the open borders lover loses.

[Lazarus]

Well today Rasmussen has the Florida race as a tie, and the Real Politics Average has a slight lead for McCain. I hope Romney can pull it out and stop this scum bag...No more polls, Bro:biggrin:... Only one poll counts now - and that is the one that is being voted on today by the people... Its time to sit quietly and pray and wait... No more speculation - We'll have the reality tonight...

Am I correct in understanding that Florida is a winner-takes-all state? Anyone know the score on that?

[maxparrish]

No more polls, Bro:biggrin:... Only one poll counts now - and that is the one that is being voted on today by the people... Its time to sit quietly and pray and wait... No more speculation - We'll have the reality tonight...

Am I correct in understanding that Florida is a winner-takes-all state? Anyone know the score on that?

Well, it was a proportional representation state. However, the Republican party chopped its deligate count in half as punishment for moving its primary forward. So the Florida party retaliated by saying that it will NOW be a winner take all.

So the winner gets 57 votes (I think). And the losers get nothing. As long as Rudi stays in the race after Florida, McCain can be stopped. Rudi is thought to be able to easily take 4 NEast States including NYork, Penn, NJ (and one other).

So if Romney loses, I hope it is by a tiny margin. He had a small lead till McCain smeared him and got the endorsements of Mel (no border) Martinez and (no border) Gov. Crist.

[Lazarus]

I don't think I've seen so much hand-wringing as I've seen over Florida... Yeah its a big chunk of delegates... And I can see McCain salivating over it like Shelob from the Lord of the Rings... Florida's delegates puts him back in the race...

This infighting between the states and the national committees of both parties is embarrassing and damaging to the process - and McCain is working it to his advantage like the political thug that he is...

Romney will not stop even if he loses Florida... He has plenty of cash to back his game... There will come a time when McCain's cash reserves begin to grow thin...

I agree with Max's assessment about Rudy... I don't believe he has a chance to win any longer, but I hope he hangs in long enought to go thru the primaries in the northeastern states... Connecticutt, Delaware, New Jersey, and New York come up on Super Tuesday... Hopefully Rudy will at least wait a week to test his chances there...

I wish we had a list of the total delegates available in each state and whether the state is proportional or winner-take-all... Then I could worry and wring my hands in a more informed manner...

[Naturalized-Texan]

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[Rhino]

I wish we had a list of the total delegates available in each state and whether the state is proportional or winner-take-all... Then I could worry and wring my hands in a more informed manner...http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/primaries/republicanprimaries/index.html

January 29, 2008

Winner-take-all primary (Closed)
57 delegates at stake

Based on the primary results, Florida will allocate 114 delegates to the national convention: 75 of those will be divided among candidates with the most votes in each of the state's 25 Congressional districts. The district-level delegates will be selected at caucuses held sometime between March and May. The rest of the 39 delegates — 36 at-large delegates and three party officials selected at a party meeting — are allocated to the candidate with the most votes statewide. National party officials have decided to count only half of the delegates from Florida as a penalty for holding its primary earlier than allowed.http://politics.nytimes.com/packages/html/election-guide/2008/primaries/states/FL.html

These paragraphs seem to contradict each other.

[Rhino]

Oh, now I get it. 114 was the number of delegates before they got penalized for moving the primary up. Now it's 57.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_delegate_count.html#upcomingstates

[Rhino]

Moved to Elections.

[MrSanity]

This has got to be one of the most important primaries, given all the buzz and the fuss.

Juan McPain's stunt only proves how full of it he really is. The man has never been hungrier for power, and he amazes me every time he betrays the GOP. It's a downward spiral.

[Jack_Savage]

McCain is hard to watch when he gloats about how he is the only one for the war on terror, while obstructing firm interrogation techniques. As far as Republican voting goes, at this time I havent seen the exit polls, but if he wins in Florida it only shows how confused the so called conservative voters are. First it was McCain, then Rudy, then back to McCain all the time following only what the polls say who is ahead.

I suppose if we wait for the general election it will be who the media says is ahead that will turn out to be the poll prophets favorate instead of who will do the best job.

[maxparrish]

McCain is hard to watch when he gloats about how he is the only one for the war on terror, while obstructing firm interrogation techniques. As far as Republican voting goes, at this time I havent seen the exit polls, but if he wins in Florida it only shows how confused the so called conservative voters are. First it was McCain, then Rudy, then back to McCain all the time following only what the polls say who is ahead.

I suppose if we wait for the general election it will be who the media says is ahead that will turn out to be the poll prophets favorate instead of who will do the best job.

YOU KNOW THIS SHOWS HOW INEFFECTIVE BLOGS AND MAGAZINES ARE. I AM SURE ROMNEY IS SUPPORTED 10 TO ONE AS THE BEST PERSON BY CONSERVATIVES, YET MCCAIN CAN GET AWAY WITH PRETENDING HE IS ONE. I AM SO DISGUSTED.

ROMNEY WILL FIGHT TO THE END, BUT ITS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD. HE MAY TAKE THE NE (NYORK, NJER) BUT SUPER TUESDAY IS GONNA HURT...

YA, THE POLLS SHOWED OLD FARTS LIKED MCCAIN, AND MCCAIN ACTUALLY GOT SLIGHTLY MORE VOTES THAN ROMNEY FROM THOSE CONCERNED WITH THE ECONOMY. MCCAIN WHO CONFESSED HE DOES NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ECONOMICS, NOR CARE, GETS MORE VOTES THAN A WALL STREET MANAGER...CHRIST OUR PEOPLE ARE DUMB TURDS.

I AM LIVID...