Sources: Giuliani To Drop Out, Endorse McCain

[Suzie]

Sources: Giuliani To Drop Out, Endorse McCain (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTksC4Z9HhLYAOx_QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12e97nt25/EXP=1201746562/**http%3a//wcbstv.com/local/florida.primary.rudy.2.640976.html) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sch/bn/nw2.gif (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTksC4Z9HhLYAPB_QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12e97nt25/EXP=1201746562/**http%3a//wcbstv.com/local/florida.primary.rudy.2.640976.html)
WCBS-TV New York - 12 minutes agoTwo sources in the Rudy Giuliani camp told CBS 2 HD's Andrew Kirtzman on Tuesday night that the former New York City mayor plans to pulll out of race before Super Tuesday and endorse John McCain for president. Sources told Kirtzman that the Giuliani is leaving the timing of the endorsement up to McCain so that the former mayor's endorsement can make the most impact. Giuliani was not expected

[ColonialMarine0431]

:sad:

[UnkHiram]

This night just gets worse and worse

[Taylor1]

Oh damn, when I heard about this my jaw dropped. I'm thinking how dumb can Giuliani be?

[PrezLeefun]

:(

[Elgalad]

He wants a Cabinet position. (shrug)

Not dumb, but short-sighted, I would think.

On the other hand, what more could he accomplish (personally) by staying in the race?


-Elgalad

[mudmagnet63]

He wants a Cabinet position. (shrug)

Not dumb, but short-sighted, I would think.

On the other hand, what more could he accomplish (personally) by staying in the race?


-Elgalad

McCain Pres.
Gramnisty VP
Rudy Sec of state

This is bad

[dajoga]

Rudy out? Good, now at least I'll vote.....between the lesser of two evils this Nov.

[Suzie]

If he's smart, or the GOP becomes smart for him, he will pick Fred for VP.

[mudmagnet63]

Get used to it cause this is what we will get to vote for in NOV.

[Elgalad]

Here's a thought..

What if Huck jumps shortly after Rudy, only he throws his support to Romney?

:question:

Probably very unlikely, but it could be interesting..


-E

[Air Force Guy]

My worst nightmare in this election just came true. Fornicating RINOs.

Guess who McCain will pick for his VEEP?

[RogerFGay]

Guess who McCain will pick for his VEEP.

He could pick whoever of the leading two loses the Democratic primary; an end around maneuver that would sweep the left; leaving the opposing candidate the option of running conservative to pick up votes.

[Air Force Guy]

He could pick whoever of the leading two loses the Democratic primary; an end around maneuver that would sweep the left; leaving the opposing candidate the option of running conservative to pick up votes.
Obama/Hillary will have to do something unusual during the General election campaign if they're going to differentiate their ideology noticeably from McCain's collaborative (capitulative) tendencies.

[The_Elucidator]

Guess who McCain will pick for his VEEP?

Three names I have heard floated in the last 24 hours have been:

Condi Rice
Sen Tom Coburn (R) Ok
Sen Lindsey Graham (R) SC

But don't count them chickens yet! It is still very fluid out there! The next 96 hours will tell the tale with post Fla polls, endorsements and the 'Rat race now that Edwards has been rumored to be dropping out. All of these things play directly/indirectly in the entire formula.

On the Fla exit polls - I believe that 43% of all those undecideds made up their minds to go with McCain after the Crist endorsement. The Governator has been rumored to be endorsing McCain... Let's see how this plays out.

[Suzie]

I think Rudy is shooting for Attorney General.

[Lazarus]

Here's a thought..

What if Huck jumps shortly after Rudy, only he throws his support to Romney?

:question:

Probably very unlikely, but it could be interesting..


-EA sweet thought, E, but I think you're desperately looking for a glimmer of hope... Huckabee has just enough delegates and just enough ego to stay in the race a while longer - At least thru Super Tuesday... The longer he stays in the race, the more steam he steals from Romney, and the more steam McCain builds... Huck would have to get out today and he'd have to publicly endorse Romney to counter Giuliani's backstabbing betrayal... IOW, a lot of stars and planets would have to line up before this is gonna happen...

Don't give up hope yet people - THAT is PRECISELY what that bastard McCain wants us to do...

Romney has one distinct advantage and that is his ability to skirt McCain's finance laws because he has all the cash needed to fund his own campaign right to the end...

Also, Florida represents...Florida, and only Flroida... And Florida is a unique political landscape - Its is NOT represntative of the country at large... We still have 44 states yet to speak and we don't know where those people stand...

Im willing to say that Giuliani's endorsement of McCain is significantly less effective than Kennedy's endorsement of Obama... While the media will play this up as a major event, Giuliani was trailing the pack with only one or two delegates in his bag... He wants to be relevant, but once he endorses McCain, his relevance is over... Oh he may secure a cabinet position, if the Emperor is in a good mood, but Giuliani does nothing for McCain in the VP slot... Once he endorses McCain, he become insignificant...

McCain has to secure the Conservative vote to win the election, assuming he wins the nomination... Right now he's looking at a major portion of his base who is seriously threatening to stay home or cast a protest vote to an irrelevant 3rd party...

McCain will not choose Graham or Giuliani - Neither one brings the Conservative in from the cold... He will offer the slot to a Conservative in an attempt to lure conservatives back to the polls... And if I have to choose a Conservative who is most likely to be chosen, it will be Fred Thompson... We are already seeing hints that Thompson's camp is working behind the scenes already with McCain... Thompson and McCain are personal friends, and idiology aside, sometimes friendship is enough to draw someone onto the team...

We're long from finished so I really don;t like getting into these predictions at this time because it just lends momentum to the rumor that McCain has it wrapped up...

One thing is for sure, if the American people can't see what a thug McCain is from the tactics he used to twist the truth to win in Florida, then America deserves to be raped by this Communist bastard...

[Suzie]

Giuliani to exit presidential race today (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani;_ylt=At2W7Bapq7HZLr7yuw4f1IKs0NUE) AP - 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Following his third place finish in Florida, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani is expected to drop out of the presidential race today and endorse Sen. John McCain.
Last night, Giuliani stopped short of announcing he was stepping down, but delivered a valedictory speech that was more farewell than fight-on.
The former mayor finished a distant third to the winner, McCain, and close second-place finisher Mitt Romney. Republican officials said Giuliani would endorse McCain on Wednesday in California. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in advance of the public announcement.
"I'm proud that we chose to stay positive and to run a campaign of ideas in an era of personal attacks, negative ads and cynical spin," Giuliani said as supporters with tight smiles crowded behind him. "You don't always win, but you can always try to do it right, and you did."

[TeenageRepublican]

I'm thinking how dumb can Giuliani be?

Do you really want me to answer that?

[Suzie]

Fox just said he is on a plane headed for California right now. He is expected make his endorsement when the plane lands.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

This should not be a surprise to anyone. There was never any doubt in my mind that Giuliani would back McCain. First, the Rude likes McCain, always has. The two are friends. Second, Giuliani's going to back the Republican he thinks would be the strongest candidate against the Dems in the general, and in that regard I think he's chosen the right one.

McCain is the strongest candidate that the Party can field. That’s just the way it is, guys. I don’t care for McCain; I don’t trust McCain. I had hoped that Romney could stop him, but now that Romney has been defeated in Florida, a diverse state that does not allow crossover. . . . Also, according to the exit polls, the majority of Republicans holding that the economy is the key issue went with McCain, not Romney! McCain is going to win this thing. Given the grave consequences should the nation reverse its offensive posture in the face of international terrorism, I cannot support any candidate but the one who can beat the Dems, and that would be McCain.

Given the Florida results, given that Romney just cannot connect, I am now with McCain. The faster he can end this thing, the better.

My first choice was Hunter; my second choice was Thompson, and then Romney by default. Now there’s only McCain. I can appreciate and even respect the choice of those who will leave the presidential block of their ballots blank if McCain is the nominee, but I will vote McCain and implore the rest of you to do the same. Hold your nose and do what’s best for the country.

We must not indirectly support Clinton or Obama. The results would be disastrous . . . most likely.

There is the possibility that a generation that does not know its history -- that of the Johnson, Nixon and Carter years of destructive Keynesianism and Détente and the transforming defeat of the old Democratic-Republican establishment engineered by the Goldwater-Reagan revolution -- and a feeble generation of Boomers that has never learned anything from history or anything else, all swooning for change, will be exposed for the fools that they are by a failed, one-term, Democratic presidency so that this nation can get back on the road toward finishing the conservative revolution, but that‘s a long shot. A significant portion of our population remains utterly blind to the fact that it was Reagan’s dramatic reduction in marginal rates that transformed this nation’s economy and fueled the small business and technological booms of the Eighties and Nineties. Calling his bluff, it was a Republican Congress that forced Clinton to support free trade and welfare reform, and stopped him from growing the government and raising rates as much as he would have liked. Republicans protected a humming economy, one that churned out enough revenue to at least retire the deficit for a time. Clinton gets credit for eight years of the inevitable 25 years of unprecedented growth and prosperity brought about by the triumph of conservativism . . . simply because the latter mostly stopped his dumb ass from undermining it!

That portion of America’s electorate are stupid drones. These are the morons who wistfully reminisce about the prosperity of the Nineties and cheer for the knuckleheads who at every step along the way fought the very policies responsible for that prosperity. These folks don’t connect dots; they eat them. They can’t see straight, think straight or fart straight. They are bootlicks, warm, cozy little animals -- tails wagging. They want that treat and that pat on the head. They need that treat and that pat on the head.

The closest thing we’ve got left to a Reagan -- someone who can scratch their bellies with what is mostly conservatism and make ’em like it -- is McCain.

[Suzie]

When you run out options you have to take what is offered to you. The options will soon be whether you let a party that hates the military have control of everything while our troops are in harms way. Do you just say I am going to stay home and to hell with those guys? Or do you do everything you can to make sure the democrats do not have entire control of their fate? Even if you stay home. you are making one of those choices.

Our options are running out. The troops are making sacrifices. Are we going to sacrifice them just because we can't have an ideal candidate?

[Lazarus]

Sooz, you're still laboring under the misconception that McCain actually posseses some untapped pocket of integrity... He's a liar and a traitor to his party and his country... He IS a Democrat - He has been throughout his career... The military is no more safe under his mad rule than it would be under the Dems... The idea that McCain is the military's best friend is a Myth!

A choice between McCain or a Democrat is no choice at all... This is like voting in Cuba - Its all the same choice - which is no choice... That senario is a farce...

[Suzie]

I didn't say anything about who would be winning. I view both McCain and Romney with equal disdain. Both suck up to the liberal issues. But one of them will win, and I KNOW both would be better than the democrats who hate the military and would then control EVERYTHING, the house the senate ... they would have it all.

[Lazarus]

Maybe its time we started thinking in terms of taking back one of the houses of Congress... The House of Reps is the one where the Dems are most vulnerable, but we should be fighting for both houses... We've become too distracted by the this presidential circus...

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Sooz, you're still laboring under the misconception that McCain actually posseses some untapped pocket of integrity... He's a liar and a traitor to his party and his country... He IS a Democrat - He has been throughout his career... The military is no more safe under his mad rule than it would be under the Dems... The idea that McCain is the military's best friend is a Myth!

A choice between McCain or a Democrat is no choice at all... This is like voting in Cuba - Its all the same choice - which is no choice... That senario is a farce...

Huh? Come on folks. We're conservatives because we practice common sense. McCain is nowhere near as bad as that. I can understand a conservative's distaste for McCain, as I share it, but let's not teeter over the edge into a form of political derangement akin to the left's hatred for Bush.

[Suzie]

Huh? Come on folks. We're conservatives because we practice common sense. McCain is nowhere near as bad as that. I can understand a conservative's distaste for McCain, as I share it, but let's not teeter over the edge into a form of political derangement akin to the left's hatred for Bush.

I agree with you.

[Lazarus]

Huh? Come on folks. We're conservatives because we practice common sense. McCain is nowhere near as bad as that...I don't have the energy to address this comment...:shake:

Somebody tell him...

[d'urville]

Cross-post: http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/30/20-of-gop-votes-cast-by-non-republicans/


let's not teeter over the edge into a form of political derangement akin to the left's hatred for Bush.


And Juan has lead that same charge to BDS. It's different when it's within your own party. The NYT and the rest are getting to pick BOTH candidates.

[Justaguy]

No surprise Rudy would endorse McCain. They're twin brothers of separate mothers.

Rudy would be unlikely to accept a VP spot. His ego wouldn't allow him.

I remember him laughing at Dr. Paul during the debates. I wonder if it irks him that he REPEATEDLY lost to the good Doctor in the elections. LOL.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Cross-post: http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/30/20-of-gop-votes-cast-by-non-republicans/



And Juan has lead that same charge to BDS. It's different when it's within your own party. The NYT and the rest are getting to pick BOTH candidates.


Actually, I think Bush's mismanagement of things, particularly of the conservative movement itself, is preeminently responsible for McCain's apparent ascendancy. In truth, there’s not much difference between Bush and McCain, except that while the former is an essentially decent man and therefore sincerely wrong on a number of issues, McCain is corrupt, as in Nixon corrupt, and can be quite vicious too. On the other hand, let's not exaggerate, folks. While McCain is not a reliable conservative, he's not anywhere near as liberal as some on this board are making him out to be.

[Suzie]

We survived Bush's immigration stance, lets just hope our luck holds. If we survived Jimmy Carter we should be able to make it now.

[Suzie]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080130/capt.d5bc55fa5269474899c5d12b692187c8.farewell_to_ giuliani_catg101.jpg?x=280&y=217&q=85&sig=x7Q3GDKO7As4zSvqOvhoRg-- (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani;_ylt=Am9PIyMQ_2MimKhktty72W6s0NUE) Enlarge Photo (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Florida-Primary-Former-New-York-City-Mayor-Rudy-Giuliani-Simi-Valley2C-Calif-Sen-John-McCain/ss/events/pl/012008floridaprimary/im:/080130/480/d5bc55fa5269474899c5d12b692187c8/;_ylt=AiuR_9pDCwNZboO5z_NOzFms0NUE) AP


Giuliani exits race, endorses McCain (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani;_ylt=Anao0wfkP76ocGTSiSYIm3Os0NUE)

AP - 38 minutes ago SIMI VALLEY, Calif. - Rudy Giuliani, who sought to make the leap from New York mayor to the White House, bowed out of the Republican presidential contest Wednesday and endorsed front-runner and longtime friend John McCain.

[CzechPrince]

The point is I, like Suzie, trust McCain to take care of our troops. Rudy was my first choice, and now it looks like it's going to be McCain. Good, because I wouldn't be voting for Romney or Huckatrash. At least with McCain, whether or not you like him, you know how he is.

Romeny--something doesn't sit right with me regarding him. I think he's shady and a two timer and given the video Suzie posted in the other thread, I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.

Huckabee is just, in my opinion, a complete idiot. The guy probably couldn't name the capitol of Russia if you asked him, let alone handle the foreign policy of this nation. His Bible politics have grown tiresome, and his belief in God isn't going to save this country. We need a real leader.

[Suzie]

For me with Romney, I could accept that maybe he catered to voters with some of his views just to get elected in Mass. Except for when you get to abortion, for one he says he wants it to be legal because of the death of some family member that died when she chose to murder her child. Does that not matter to him anymore and if so it would be nice to hear why. I don't think he has changed his view on that or he would say why his view has changed.

And if you are willing to accept he said all those liberal things to get elected then, how do you know what he is telling you now isn't just a load of crap to get elected NOW? I know where I am going to get screwed if McCain is elected, with Romney it could be all that and MORE.

For a man to stand up and say I am willing to accept murder and profess himself to be pro abortion just to get elected tells me what kind of man he is, and I don't like it.

I trusted Fred enough to be my president, I do have to consider why has he supported McCain in the past? Does he know something we don't? I wish he would tell us. I trust what he thinks more than Rudy.

[maxparrish]

Romney has done EVERYTHING humanly possible to show himself, his faith, and his loyality to conservative causes, even if he had the difficulty of running for office in a hyper liberal state. HE was not a tax raiser (he cut them), he is the ONLY candidate left that stands for fences and aggressive enforcement of the borders; he is against McCain Finegold, he does not buy into global warming crap, and he is a free market capitalist - he walked the walk (unlike McCain). Romney never stabbed the party in the back, or sided with terrorists.

Why the hell would anyone be for McCain? HE adopted a liberal and backstabbing line while representing a CONSERVATIVE STATE...he did it BECAUSE HE WANTED TO, not because he had too. AND he went out of his way to stop judicial appointments, and to force open borders down our throats. And while some of you think his anti-abortion stance is sincere, I recall that he only changed his mind in 2000 AND he used to go out of his way to snear at religious conservatives - OR have you fools forgotten his ridicule?

Have you forgotten that DICK CHENEY had to return to the Senate to break a deadlocked vote on tax cuts BECAUSE McCain refused to cut taxes? Have you forgotten he has REFUSED to sign the NO new taxes promise? Have you forgotten he stands against developing ANWR and off[-shore oil? Have you forgotten his desire to tear down GITMO and release killers (the invariable result of transfer to US soil)? Are you aware that he is going "fix" the market with new mandates on pharmaceuticals and utilities? Have you forgotten his is a died int he wool global warmer and will have NEW taxes?

What the hell is wrong with you people? He is going to tear our party apart, and smile will doing it. John McCain is an evil man, a liar, and cancer. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HIM...NEVER!

How the Hell you can't see Romney as a likely better choice is beyond me. Romney TRIES to be a friend of our side and lunkheads are not convinced and suggest we slide up to McCain who IS an ENEMY.

Wake up folks. Let Hillary win, we can survive that.

When Rush Limbaugh is taken off the air, and McCain will try...well, that will be the end.

[Suzie]

I don't believe McCain is a conservative. I don't believe Romney is a conservative either, not one bit. I won't vote for either in the primary.

But I know I am going to have to vote for them in the general to keep the democrats from controlling our military completely.

[The_Elucidator]

Wake up folks. Let Hillary win, we can survive that.



Max - I respect the hell out of you, but I just can't deal with that statement! I hear very eloquent well thought out posts tainted with that BS phrase; much like finding a cockroach in the bottom of your DQ Oreo Blizzard. I have to question anybody that thinks this country could survive 8 years of the Clintons. And make no mistake about it; IT WILL BE 8!

[dajoga]

Sooz, you're still laboring under the misconception that McCain actually posseses some untapped pocket of integrity... He's a liar and a traitor to his party and his country... He IS a Democrat - He has been throughout his career... The military is no more safe under his mad rule than it would be under the Dems... The idea that McCain is the military's best friend is a Myth!

A choice between McCain or a Democrat is no choice at all... This is like voting in Cuba - Its all the same choice - which is no choice... That senario is a farce...

Well the ADA (http://www.adaction.org/2006Senatevr.htm) doesn't think so. That bunch of liberal twits gave Clinton and Obama a 95% liberal rating for '06 (no surprise there), and gave McCain a 15% liberal rating.

[Suzie]

Max - I respect the hell out of you, but I just can't deal with that statement! I hear very eloquent well thought out posts tainted with that BS phrase; much like finding a cockroach in the bottom of your DQ Oreo Blizzard. I have to question anybody that thinks this country could survive 8 years of the Clintons. And make no mistake about it; IT WILL BE 8!
The country might barely survive. Our military would not. But then without them none of us survive so you are right.

[mkafrica]

Well the ADA (http://www.adaction.org/2006Senatevr.htm) doesn't think so. That bunch of liberal twits gave Clinton and Obama a 95% liberal rating for '06 (no surprise there), and gave McCain a 15% liberal rating.

When you say that one is liberal, it depends on what your definition of "is" is.

[Air Force Guy]

Romney has done EVERYTHING humanly possible to show himself, his faith, and his loyality to conservative causes, even if he had the difficulty of running for office in a hyper liberal state. HE was not a tax raiser (he cut them), he is the ONLY candidate left that stands for fences and aggressive enforcement of the borders; he is against McCain Finegold, he does not buy into global warming crap, and he is a free market capitalist - he walked the walk (unlike McCain). Romney never stabbed the party in the back, or sided with terrorists.

Why the hell would anyone be for McCain? HE adopted a liberal and backstabbing line while representing a CONSERVATIVE STATE...he did it BECAUSE HE WANTED TO, not because he had too. AND he went out of his way to stop judicial appointments, and to force open borders down our throats. And while some of you think his anti-abortion stance is sincere, I recall that he only changed his mind in 2000 AND he used to go out of his way to snear at religious conservatives - OR have you fools forgotten his ridicule?

Have you forgotten that DICK CHENEY had to return to the Senate to break a deadlocked vote on tax cuts BECAUSE McCain refused to cut taxes? Have you forgotten he has REFUSED to sign the NO new taxes promise? Have you forgotten he stands against developing ANWR and off[-shore oil? Have you forgotten his desire to tear down GITMO and release killers (the invariable result of transfer to US soil)? Are you aware that he is going "fix" the market with new mandates on pharmaceuticals and utilities? Have you forgotten his is a died int he wool global warmer and will have NEW taxes?

What the hell is wrong with you people? He is going to tear our party apart, and smile will doing it. John McCain is an evil man, a liar, and cancer. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HIM...NEVER!

How the Hell you can't see Romney as a likely better choice is beyond me. Romney TRIES to be a friend of our side and lunkheads are not convinced and suggest we slide up to McCain who IS an ENEMY.

Wake up folks. Let Hillary win, we can survive that.

When Rush Limbaugh is taken off the air, and McCain will try...well, that will be the end.While I agree with you that Romney is a better man than McGoon...I have to nitpick here, just a little. Arizona is NOT a conservative state. It is lukewarm and could possibly swing the wrong way if enough latinos are pissed off at a candidate...or cheerful about seeing one of their own at the top of the heap. McCain was keenly aware of this....and always playing in a "prevent defense." Never going too far to the right for fear that he'd get burned by the silent majority in Arizona.