Quick question on abortion:

[MaximumSam]

Assuming you believe abortion should be illegal, what should the penalty be?

[Suzie]

Where have you been Sam? You like to start poking with a stick right away huh?

Abortion is murder, we already have penalties for that. The only thing that needs to be done is to remove the bad laws that allow an individual to commit murder in womb. The doctor commits murder, the mother would be conspiracy to commit. Just like when someone hires a hit man to kill other people who are inconvenient for the person who wants them dead.

[DoctorDoom]

LiberalSam must be doing a class project again.

[Beowulf]

It's pre-meditated murder, plain and simple. Those convicted of 1st degree murder spend life in prison w/o parole or get the death penalty. I'm fine with either one.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Where have you been Sam? You like to start poking with a stick right away huh?

Abortion is murder, we already have penalties for that. The only thing that needs to be done is to remove the bad laws that allow an individual to commit murder in womb. The doctor commits murder, the mother would be conspiracy to commit. Just like when someone hires a hit man to kill other people who are inconvenient for the person who wants them dead.

:yeahthat: all of it .... :wave: Hi Sam

[MaximumSam]

Where have you been Sam? You like to start poking with a stick right away huh?

Abortion is murder, we already have penalties for that. The only thing that needs to be done is to remove the bad laws that allow an individual to commit murder in womb. The doctor commits murder, the mother would be conspiracy to commit. Just like when someone hires a hit man to kill other people who are inconvenient for the person who wants them dead.

Aw, I've been here and there. Although I'm not really poking, just bringing up something I've thought about from time to time. And as mentioned by someone else, the penalties for premeditated murder can certainly extend to the death penalty. I guess my question is - are we really so willing to kill or lock up these people forever on the basis of an abortion?

These people would obviosuly be dangerous to unborn children, but generally would not be dangerous to others or to society. Would there be a net boon to society in having the same punishment for murder as abortion?

[Suzie]

People kill other family members who wouldn't kill other people but they are charged for it. The greatest reason for murder is to get rid of someone who is burden to them. If you aren't a burden chances are they won't kill you. But birth should not be the starting point where you have to pay for it in the legal system.

[Chris]

LiberalSam must be doing a class project again.

Or, researching for a case. He gradjiiated from collllej didn't he?

[Air Force Guy]

Killing innocents...

We have libs wanting to wage war over genocide in a foreign land but won't bat an eye at letting a baby get butchered or scalded to death in the womb here in the U.S...in their own hometowns.

They have a funny definition of "freedom of choice." (as if someone is choosing chocolate or strawberry ice cream)

If they're willing to have a bullet put in the head of a Yugoslavian who is defending against Muslims in eastern Europe...why is killing an innocent child more deserving of being peeled like an onion or boiled like a potato?

[garlicguy]

It's pre-meditated murder, plain and simple. Those convicted of 1st degree murder spend life in prison w/o parole or get the death penalty. I'm fine with either one.

No argument there.

But as in all murder cases, let it be by decision and operation of state law, not SCOTUS decision. This should never have been reviewed at the Federal level. Keep it on a state level - that way all the lefties wanting abortions could move to a couple of states where it was legal (together with homosexual marriage) and voila!

Within two generations there would be land available for homesteading again! :thumb:

[Air Force Guy]

No argument there.

But as in all murder cases, let it be by decision and operation of state law, not SCOTUS decision. This should never have been reviewed at the Federal level. Keep it on a state level - that way all the lefties wanting abortions could move to a couple of states where it was legal (together with homosexual marriage) and voila!

Within two generations there would be land available for homesteading again! :thumb:
Ummmm, murder is one of those societal things that has to be dealt with, regardless of whether the state wants to prosecute or not.

On a tangent: I don't recall all the legalistic hoopla around OJ's escaping California law...but wouldn't it have been grand, at least in this instance, if the Feds had somehow managed to get him in court after the left coast failed to convict?

[Wolfcounsel]

"I guess my question is - are we really so willing to kill or lock up these people forever on the basis of an abortion?" --MaximumSam

I'm in favor of the death penalty for people who perform convenience abortions. I don't care about them not being a danger to others in society except for the unborn. I call it a reckoning. Equilibrium. Screw them and their self-righteousness. An innocent life was forfeited.

[DoctorDoom]

What do we do with serial killers?

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[DesertFox]

are we really so willing to kill or lock up these people forever on the basis of an abortion?I am when it's past the first month. And if I'm shown persuasive evidence that that fetus is already a baby by the first month, I'll be willing to lock people up forever on the basis of aborting it then.

I think there's a period before which it really IS a mass of cells and not yet a baby, and that that mass of cells should be abortable without penalty; but the instant it's a baby, no abortion.