What counts as sex?

[PrezLeefun]

Yes. I am seriously asking what you guys think counts as sex. That is to say what actions would exclude a person from maintaining their virginity.


And If this thread shouldn't be here feel free to move it.

[Taylor1]

¯\(°_0)/¯ being naked maybe, hell if I know...

[PrezLeefun]

I was just thinking on it because of a certain president's declaration of denial.

[Wolfcounsel]

Coitus is sex. It involves a mature, heterosexual couple. Anything else is merely play. If the question is geared so that sluts like Slick Willie can say that they did not have sex "with that woman", to preserve their marriage fidelity, it's not going to work, people. So, that corny "Eating Ain't Cheating" might as well have been done by an adolescent pimple butt.

[Taylor1]

In humans, "sex" is often perceived as a dichotomous state or identity for most biological and social purposes - such that a person can only be female or male. But many factors, including one's biology, environment, psychology and social context, have a role in determining how a particular person, and those around them, view their sex. Although the table below shows common differences between males and females, many people do not correspond to "male" or "female" with regard to every criterion. Additionally, about 1 to 1.7 percent of human beings exhibit biological sexual ambiguity to the degree that they cannot be physically classified as exclusively male or female. This is known as intersex. A person with intersex may have biological characteristics of both the male and female sexes.

"Primary" sexual characteristics are typically present at birth and directly involved in reproduction. "Secondary" sexual characteristics typically develop later in life (usually during puberty) and are not directly involved in reproduction. Differences between the sexes are known as sexual dimorphism. At the biological level these differences are usually:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

Umm. Wow, yeah...

[TeenageRepublican]

A sex thread NOT started by Rhino or TR? Hell has finally froze over!

[Taylor1]

A sex thread NOT started by Rhino or TR? Hell has finally froze over!

Yeah, it did. They all came back too. Just look at California.

[TeenageRepublican]

No, they came from Mexico. Which is close to hell, believe it or not.

[PrezLeefun]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex

Umm. Wow, yeah...

Well thats not the context I was speaking of it in.


I know what I consider to be sex, and I know what determines sex (as in male, female, intersex) but I was wondering about personal definitions of what counts (and doesnt count)

[TeenageRepublican]

How PC do I have to be with my definition?

[Taylor1]

How PC do I have to be with my definition?

Well, that I can't say.

[BuckeyeMike]

If it involves the genitalia of one or both participants...........dammit that's sex!

As I've asked before....is sex an up and coming thing--------

-------------or are people just fuking around?

The answer is YES!

[PrezLeefun]

How PC do I have to be with my definition?

Dont be PC.... just use real words.

[TeenageRepublican]

Awesome. I'm just going to say this with a nine year old listening in the back ground.

TR: When a penis-

9 year old: *snickers* He said penis...

TR: -enters a vagina-

9 year old: Wait, what does Virginia have to do this?

TR: -is what sex is.

9 year old: Sex. I like that word. Sex. Sex. Sexy Sex. Sex. Sex.

And I'll leave the rest up to you.

[DeclinetoState]

How PC do I have to be with my definition? It doesn't matter if you're PC or Mac.

:grin:

[PrezLeefun]

^^^ :lol:

[TeenageRepublican]

Say sex as fast as you can for ten seconds. It'll loose meaning after a while.

[TeenageRepublican]

And yes, I've tried this.

[Taylor1]

Awesome. I'm just going to say this with a nine year old listening in the back ground.

TR: When a penis-

9 year old: *snickers* He said penis...

TR: -enters a vagina-

9 year old: Wait, what does Virginia have to do this?

TR: -is what sex is.

9 year old: Sex. I like that word. Sex. Sex. Sexy Sex. Sex. Sex.

And I'll leave the rest up to you.

:punish: they're learning too damn young now.

[PrezLeefun]

^^ Please I found out what intercourse was when I was five.

[CzechPrince]

When I hear, "sex" i think of merely intercourse. I wouldn't consider, ahem.....foreplay, actual sex. They are sexual acts, but actual sex I would consider just intercourse.

[Timberwolf]

Losing one's "virginity" involves vaginal penetration by the penis...I'll let you take it from there.

[Timberwolf]

But, as far as marital fidelity is concerned, ANYTHING that gets one's "rocks off" is sex.

[Wyatt_Junker]

But, as far as marital fidelity is concerned, ANYTHING that gets one's "rocks off" is sex.

Mmmmm. Sex.

http://www.shanepotter.com/House%20Pictures/Shane_Moving_Rocks_2.JPG

Here's another one getting his rocks off.

http://www.headwaysystems.com/Summer2005/DSCN1277.JPG

[Timberwolf]

:biglaugh:

I knew I could depend on ya!!! :thumb:

[ThomasMore]

But, as far as marital fidelity is concerned, ANYTHING that gets one's "rocks off" is sex.

That would be my definition, too. Anything that leads to the big "O," or is intended to.

Coitus is the down-the-middle answer, but the rest of it fits, too.

[Taylor1]

Losing one's "virginity" involves vaginal penetration by the penis...I'll let you take it from there.

I was gonna say that.. but I didn't wanna look like an idiot.

[ThomasMore]

I was gonna say that.. but I didn't wanna look like an idiot.

So, Taylor, what are you saying?:question:






:D

[Wolfcounsel]

"If it involves the genitalia of one or both participants...........dammit that's sex!" --BuckeyeMike

The Japanese regard the back of a woman's neck as sexual. Some people say it is healthier to kiss a person anywhere but the mouth. In the-- no, this is a lurking place for immature people, I forgot.:ooo:

[ThomasMore]

"If it involves the genitalia of one or both participants...........dammit that's sex!" --BuckeyeMike

That's a pretty good answer, too.

[mkafrica]

If it involves the genitalia of one or both participants...........dammit that's sex!

That's pretty close to my definition.

[PrezLeefun]

^^^What if that contact is not oral, anal, or intercourse?

[BuckeyeMike]

Sounds like someone is backin' off in his own jack yard then.

[Nutrider99]

The OP was:
Yes. I am seriously asking what you guys think counts as sex. That is to say what actions would exclude a person from maintaining their virginity.
These are entirely different notions. A man loses his virginity when he penetrates a woman, just as a woman loses her virginity when she is penetrated by a man (or another woman with an addadicktome). Not all sex acts cause a loss of virginity. For example, there are girls who desire to keep their hymen intact for their husband to take their "virginity," so they engage in oral or anal sex instead. They remain virgins by the medical definition because their hymens remain intact, though society would not consider them virgins.

What constitutes sex is something else. Sex is the physical interaction between people for the purpose of erotic gratification. Sex can be a touch, a kiss or actual penetration. Phone sex with mutual masturbation is sex, and when it happens outside of marriage it is the same as any other form of cheating. The marital bonds between husband and wife preclude sexual stimulation from outside the marital union. They don't call it cyber "sex" for nothing.

When bill clinton said that oral sex was not sex, he did so to try and make excuses for his obvious perjury. The media whores repeated his lie so that the American public had some plausible excuse to deny that their president was a perjurer.

[Air Force Guy]

I noticed you didn't throw the word 'intercourse' into your question so...Whatever you're doing to stimulate the genitalia, directly or indirectly, into arousal is sexual activity. If a woman achieves sexual ecstasy by having her feet massaged...I'd have to say that was a form of sex.

As another alluded to, the definition of sex changes a little when you bring marital fidelity into it. I would understand if a wife wanted a divorce on the grounds that her husband placed his face between another woman's breasts. I wouldn't argue with her for referring to that as a 'sex act' even though it may not involve intercourse.

EDIT: Pretty much what Nutrider just said

[Wolfcounsel]

"Sex is the physical interaction between people for the purpose of erotic gratification." --Nutrider99

Well, yes, but I prefer to call it mutual masturbation. I call coitus sex, or sexual play. Exclusively. This reminds me of that speaker some years back. He got up to talk about sex. He got to the microphone and said, "Ladies and gentlemen! It gives me great pleasure...", and then he sat down again.

[DeclinetoState]

The word I prefer to use for sexual intercourse is not coitus. There is a much more appropriate word in English for the act.
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[PrezLeefun]

Another question...


Why am I the only woman posting in this thread?

[DesertFox]

You're the only woman in this thread because women generally are not comfortable talking about sex, especially in the presence of men.

To me, "having sex" means vaginal or anal intercourse. Nothing else. All else is "sexual play."

[TeenageRepublican]

Another question...


Why am I the only woman posting in this thread?

Weird, isn't it?

This reminds me of one time I was joking around with my friend, James, and he said a dirty joke (which I will inevitably repeat on this board) that made crack up so hard. It just so happened my girlfriend was behind me when James said that.
She said that was nasty. But she forgave me for being a male. That girlfriend was the one I just broke up with (see the "Dating" thread to see why).

Here's the joke:
Q: What do Wal-Mart and Michael Jackson have in common?
A: They both have boys pants half off...

Yes, it's nasty, but it made me crack up.

[Air Force Guy]

You're the only woman in this thread because women generally are not comfortable talking about sex, especially in the presence of men.

To me, "having sex" means vaginal or anal intercourse. Nothing else. All else is "sexual play."
So Bill Clinton told the truth on that subect as far as you're concerned?

[jayson]

Here's the joke:
Q: What do Wal-Mart and Michael Jackson have in common?
A: They both have boys pants half off...

:lol:

As for virginity... other than a medical definition (the breaking of the hymen), I think it boils down to each individual's definition, since virginity is really a moral concept more than a medical one.

[DesertFox]

So Bill Clinton told the truth on that subect as far as you're concerned? He told the literal truth. He knew perfectly well that what they were asking had to do with sex generally, and tailored his answer to the way the question was ast. That's part of the problem with modern liberals -- they twist language. They have no honor and will not respond to a broad-ranging question in a broad-ranging way. Instead, like pigs, they will wallow in their own filth and claim that everybody duzzit.

This entire mode of evasion got off to a fast start in the Alger Hiss case. Hiss was truly brilliant mentally, and in his time before the HUAC he invented the template that all liberals in trouble have followed since. Words. Mountains of words. Admit nothing, ever. Fight tooth and nail, evade, evade, evade. Twist, dodge, play dumb. Heap scorn on the very idea that you would ever conceive such lowdown things, and if you can heap scorn on a person, do it.

The Senators should have chased Clinton into a corner about Monica, getting into obscene details, and not been so gentlemanly. Liberals will not let you be gentlemanly if you're seeking the truth, but will force you to assume the very worst of them (and you'll prolly be right).

Strictly speaking, to my mind, Clinton told the truth. Were I on a panel asking Clinton any kind of question today, I would narrow it down so specifically that even that bastard couldn't weasel out. "Did you engage in sexual touching with Monica Lewinski?" "Did YOU ever touch, with your finger or an object, her labia? her pubic hair?" "Did SHE ever touch YOUR genitals?" "Did you ever ejaculate while she was present?" "Did she ever get you off in any way?"

We discussed this to death a few years ago. My definition of "sex" doesn't mean it's okay for a married man to get a blowjob or a handjob from the corner hooker, or to cop a feel of the cute flirt at work. The sin in these cases isn't adultery, but lusting in the heart.

[Air Force Guy]

I don't believe that anyone was wanting to pin a sin on him. I think they wanted to expose him as the lying, self-absorbed, womanizer that most people had thought he was all along...driving Hillary and him to utter embarrassment, maybe impeachment. I don't know for sure but I'm going to bet that most libs like him don't embarrass easily...y'know, traditional, red-faced shame. They just get a big, broad-faced smile going and tell you that you misunderstood what they said (under oath).

[DesertFox]

That's exactly what they sought to do. They succeeded in it, but it didn't turn out to have the effect they thought it would have. America in effect said, "So what?"

Many libs do embarrass, but not the Clintons. They feel picked on all the time, so anything they do is justified.

[PrezLeefun]

:lol:

As for virginity... other than a medical definition (the breaking of the hymen), I think it boils down to each individual's definition, since virginity is really a moral concept more than a medical one.

Thats not accurate. Plenty of women are not even born with a hymen so there is no medical accuracy in determining virginity. Virginity is by far more of a social concept so that is why I asked you guys what you thought.