Wild midday shoot out in Los Angeles

[Kathy30]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,2198361.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-barricade22feb22,0,2198361.story)

The violence began around noon when a 37-year-old man police described as a bystander was shot more than a dozen times by suspected gang members as he held the hand of a 2-year-old girl. He later died. The toddler, apparently picked up by a passerby and carried to safety, was not wounded. As the gunmen drove off, witnesses told police, several pedestrians who apparently knew the victim opened fire on the car.

Do you understand what's going on? In other parts of the country, can you imagine what an invasion is really, really like.

A man walking with his two year old is shot more than 12 times in a drive by in the middle of the day. Other people on the street, pull out their own carry weapons and start returning fire. DO YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR CITY? If you are spreading the word. This is the word. Read this article. There is an AUTOMATED phone system to notify parents that the schools in the area were in lockdown. That's how often violence happens here. Telling you that your kid's life is in danger is reduced to a robocall with a recorded message.

The murder rate will easily exceed all previous years. Putting that in print must have been a slip up. You know as well as I do, that crime statistics have been the subject of outright lies for years. Every year there is a drop in violent crime. It is an outright baldfaced lie. It has been going up for years and everyone is lying about it.

If you live in a city where the city is considering illegal friendly rules to accommodate the "immigrants", show them this and tell them you do not want this in your city.
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[Incident_command]

A mid-day barrage of gunfire in Liberty City left one person dead and six wounded -- including an 18-month-old baby shot in the leg.
The dead man was identified as Brian Smith, 27, a local resident. Miami police say he was the intended victim. One of the injured was in critical condition.
Just before noon, Miami police were flooded with multiple calls that shots had been fired on the sidewalk and around a house at 1424 NW 51st St

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/428381.html


Same thing down here. And nobody dares to say the obvious.

[Wolfcounsel]

To me this represents any city with the finest public servants money can buy.

[Beowulf]

And I'm willing to bet that all those in the cars of the drive by got each of their weapons legally!!!:rolleyes:

[Kathy30]

I'll bet that Brian Smith is black and the assailants latino.

[DoctorDoom]

And thanks to the mewling, puking, gutless, spineless liberals, the police are powerless to deal with the bastards. I say tell the cops, "You have carte blanche. Do it! Just remove the corpses when you're done. We don't want littering."

The ONLY way to deal with gangs is to annihilate them. Kill them on sight. Torch their hangouts and shoot whoever gets out. And if anyone whines, kill them, too.

[CONSERVATIVE HERO]

And I'm willing to bet that all those in the cars of the drive by got each of their weapons legally!!!:rolleyes:
To my knowledge it's illegal to have a weapon (loaded or not) in your car in CA unless secured in either a lock box or the trunk. Loaded is considered as having usable ammunition connected to the firearm in any way. If you have a Gun in the vehicle, it must be in either the trunk or in a lock box (if in the passenger compartment), or it is considered concealed. Under the seat or in the glove box is considered concealed. Clearly they were both loaded and not locked in either a lock box or the trunk (meaning they were concealed). Of course shooting someone isn't legal either, but as always with criminals (being criminals precisely because they ignore laws), neither of those laws seemed to matter.

[ColonialMarine0431]

Beaners. Figures. Only gonna get worse.

[Taylor1]

Beaners. Figures. Only gonna get worse.

Well duh!

Abd the police are powerless to deal with the bastards. I say tell the cops, "You have carte blanche. Do it! Just remove the corpses when you're done. We don't want littering."

The ONLY way to deal with gangs is to annihilate them. Kill them on sight. Torch their hangouts and shoot whoever gets out. And if anyone whines, kill them, too.

I like your way of doing things, this way needs to happen a hell of a lot more.

[Kathy30]

And thanks to the mewling, puking, gutless, spineless liberals, the police are powerless to deal with the bastards. I say tell the cops, "You have carte blanche. Do it! Just remove the corpses when you're done. We don't want littering."

The ONLY way to deal with gangs is to annihilate them. Kill them on sight. Torch their hangouts and shoot whoever gets out. And if anyone whines, kill them, too.

Chief Bratton doesn't see it that way. In his press conference he made a point of announcing that the police were not going to go after gangs or their members and they were not targeted unless they committed a crime.

I agree with you. But there are 4000 cops in the LAPD and over 100,000 gang members and growing. LAPD can't get cops. They hire gang bangers who are unwilling to go up against their homies.

[Taylor1]

4,000 against 100,000. Its time for para-military operations.

[jayson]

And I'm willing to bet that all those in the cars of the drive by got each of their weapons legally!!!:rolleyes:

No doubt holders of CCW permits, as well. They are the shadiest of them all.

[Taylor1]

No doubt holders of CCW permits, as well. They are the shadiest of them all.

They're always killing cops and robbing quik-e-marts.

[BarkleUSA]

If they want to be safe they would join the Marines and head to Iraq where the chance of being killed is about one fourth as likely as LA County.

Take a look at this past week -

US Coalition deaths in Iraq 2/16/2008 through 2/21/2008 = 9
Population 27,499,638
Death Rate = 0.33 Deaths per Million

Los Angeles County homicides 2/16/2008 through 2/21/2008 = 12
Population 9,948,081
Death Rate = 1.21 Deaths per Million

And now for the stories and names that you WONT see at the end of This Week with George Stephanopoulos:

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Glassell Park shootings

Glassell Park: One man was killed in a drive-by shooting and another was shot to death by a Los Angeles police officer in an afternoon of violence sparked by gang conflict in Glassell Park on Thursday, Feb. 21, authorities said.

The first shooting took place about noon, when a man carrying his 2-year-old toddler was struck multiple times by gunfire from a passing car at Roseview and Aragon avenues. The baby girl was not hit, but suffered injuries when her father fell, said Officer Kate Lopez of LAPD's media relations office.

Police gave this account of what followed: People in two cars opened fire on each other. Officers from the Northeast Division familiar with the gang rivalry in the area responded and pulled over one of the cars at Estara Avenue and Drew Street. Three men got out and began shooting. The officers fired back, killing one man and injuring another; he was taken to a local hospital. A third suspect fled on foot, but is believed to be in the area. As this report is being posted, officers have set up a barricade and are searching for the man. The fourth suspect, who is believed to be the driver, fled in a white Nissan.

For more, go to this Times story or to this update:

Feb 21, 2008 6:49:44 PM

Atwater Village shooting

Atwater Village: Steve Garcia, 26, a Latino man, was shot and killed while sitting inside his car at 2791 Carillon St. in Atwater Village at about 2:43 a.m. Friday, Feb. 15. According to police, Garcia and a woman were sitting inside the car when a suspect or suspects approached the vehicle and fired several shots. Garcia was hit multiple times and the woman was hit in the arm, said Officer Richard French of LAPD's media relations office. Garcia was pronounced dead at the scene. The woman was hospitalized and in stable condition, French said. The suspect or suspects may have fled in a Toyota Corolla, police said.

Feb 20, 2008 8:08:24 AM

Hawaiian Gardens homicide

Hawaiian Gardens: Arthur Manchaca, 17, a Latino youth, was shot in the head in the 21900 block of Claretta Ave in Hawaiian Gardens at about 10:45 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 17. Manchaca was taken by ambulance to Long Beach Memorial Medical Center, where he died the next day at 2:30 p.m. HR is seeking further information.

Feb 20, 2008 8:07:33 AM

Jefferson Park homicide

Jefferson Park: Alfonso Arzola, a 30-year-old Latino man, was shot multiple times at 2950 5th Ave. on Tuesday, Feb. 12. A coroner's report listed his time of death as 12:20 a.m. Homicide detectives with the LAPD's Southwest Division are investigating. More to come.

Feb 20, 2008 8:06:48 AM

South Los Angeles homicide

South L.A.: Jorge Rosas Jr., a 28-year-old Latino man, was fatally shot near the intersection of 48th Street and Compton Boulevard on Thursday, Feb. 14. His time of death was listed as 10:30 a.m., according to a coroner's report. More to come.

Feb 20, 2008 8:05:50 AM

Westlake shooting

Westlake: Carlos Castillos, 22, a young Latino man, was shot and killed in an officer-involved shooting at the intersection of Park View Street and Ocean View Avenue near MacArthur Park at about 3:30 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 16. According to police, officers with LAPD's Rampart Division responded to a report that an armed man had tried to rob three people in separate incidents. Officers spotted Castillo near the intersection, where they pulled over, got out of their patrol car, and instructed him in English and Spanish to drop his gun. Castillo then allegedly pointed the gun at the officers and was shot once in the upper body, authorities said. He was taken to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 4:30 p.m. A gun was recovered at the scene, authorities added.

Feb 17, 2008 4:43:05 PM

Downey stabbing

Downey: Rafael Rodriguez, a 34-year-old man, was stabbed during a fight at 8722 Fontana Street Thursday, Feb. 14. He was transported to Downey Regional Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead that same evening. According to authorities, officers from the Downey Police Department responded to a report of a patient with stab wounds at the hospital. Officers then learned that the patient, Rodriguez, had been stabbed multiple times during a fight. Shortly at about midnight, Feb. 16, homicide detectives arrested two Latino brothers: Brian Olguin, 31, and Jon Olguin, 33, on suspicion of murder. It was unclear what the men were fighting about, said Police Assistant Alicia Perez.

Feb 17, 2008 1:29:43 PM

Mid-City Los Angeles homicide

Mid-City Los Angeles: Emily Grigsby, a 19-year-old young black woman, was shot while attending a party in the 1500 block of South Fairfax Avenue at about 11 p.m. Friday, Feb. 15. According to police, Grigsby and a 17-year-old black youth were standing outside when a black man walked up and shot them both. Grigsby was transported to a local hospital, where she died later that evening. The 17-year-old youth was listed in stable condition, according to Officer Mike Lopez of LAPD's media relations office. The motive is still unclear, Lopez added. More to come.

Feb 16, 2008 6:53:09 PM

Hollywood homicide

Hollywood: Gerardo Canenguez, 19, a young Latino man, was shot in the face while riding his bicycle near the intersection of Wilton Place and Clinton Street in the Hancock Park area Thursday, Feb. 14. He was transported to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where was pronounced dead that same day at 11:49 a.m. The shooting appears to be gang related, police said. Homicide detectives with LAPD's Hollywood Division are investigating.

Feb 16, 2008 4:50:25 PM

Body found in Pomona

Pomona: Eileen Nicole Ponce-Orta, a 22-year-old Latina woman, was found stabbed to death inside her Plymouth Voyager in the 400 block of Civic Center Plaza at about 10:58 a.m. Friday, Feb. 15. Initially Pomona police said that a parking enforcement officer had discovered the body after receiving a call of an illegally parked vehicle. It was later learned by a Times staff writer that family members had instead discovered the body under some blankets in the backseat of the minivan. Orta had been reported missing earlier in the week to the Covina Police Department. More in the Los Angeles Times story

Feb 16, 2008 3:55:25 PM

[DeclinetoState]

There might be a movie that could be made about this.

[DoctorDoom]

I agree with you. But there are 4000 cops in the LAPD and over 100,000 gang members and growing. LAPD can't get cops. They hire gang bangers who are unwilling to go up against their homies.4000 cops for a city of almost 4 million is pathetic, but who wants to work with their hands tied and targets painted on their backs?

The majority of gang punkss are snot-nosed assholes who'd wet their drawers at the sight of a gun pointed at them. The hard core of monsters is far less than 100K. Give LE free rein—hunt and kill—with no questions asked, and the lifespans of the scumbags would be drastically shortened.

It will soon come to the point where either the problem is addressed foircefully and definitively or the city will surrender to the lawless. Given the choices, there's no real choice. Kill or be killed. And a hundred thousand dead punks would be urban renewal.