DesertFox
07-21-2003, 10:58 AM
<font size=1>Originated by TheRealLobo</font>
With the recent influx of those wishing to "learn about Conservatives", wishing to see what the "other side thinks", or wanting to "bring about some debate", I offer the following information.
There is a large contigent of core members at FreeConservative, and while I don't speak for all of them, many of us have been here for at least a couple of years. We've discussed many issues, and lately, it seems as the same issues are being discussed over and over again as each new group of self-styled "anarchists", "leftists", those who want to know what conservatives think, and those wishing to remain label-less register and post. In the interest of saving time, I present a GENERAL consensus of what conservatives support. If you find the answer to a question you are about to post, please re-consider, or you will be likely to feel as if you are being picked on from the outset.
Regards,
TheRealLobo
1. Conservatives are as a rule, anti-abortion. Roe vs Wade is wrong, and it should be at worst, a state's decision, not the federal government's.
2. Conservatives generally support the death penalty. It prevents recidivism, and we know that it isn't a deterrent because it isn't used properly. If used properly, it would be a much better deterrent. Rather than let a condemned person languish at taxpayer expense for 3-14 years, allow the criminal to have his appeals and then finish it. It's not supposed to be rehabilitation, it's supposed to be punishment for a crime.
3. Conservatives support gun ownership as an individual right, as protected by the U.S. Constitution. You have no argument that will sway this. We also know that gun registration schemes will not deter crime any more than the death penalty will. Cars and guns aren't the same, and arguing about the registration of cars vs guns is stupid.
4. We wear the label "conservative" with pride, like a banner. When someone new posts, they will likely get labelled. As a leftist, a commie, socialist, Marxist, democrat, conservative...whatever. If you don't wish to be labelled, it's simple. Don't post.
5. We don't support "gay rights". If a homosexual wants to be treated the same as a heterosexual, keep your bedroom activities in your bedroom. We don't care if you like another guy's hairy butt. We just don't want you telling us we need to find it acceptable. You can be a homosexual without demanding that I embrace the idea. We also as a rule don't believe in "gay marriage". Marriage, by definition is between a man and a woman. Homosexuals have corrupted enough words in the English language without the need to redefine the word marriage. Call it something else...buttiage or something.
6. We also usually have a copy of the U.S. Constitution close at hand. We've probably all read it at least once, and refer to it often. If you want to quote something or argue that something is Constitututional or not, be VERY sure of what you are typing.
7. The "separation of Church and State" is not grounded in the U.S. Constitution. The phrase does NOT appear ANYWHERE in the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution protects freedom of religion, not freedom FROM religion.
8. As rule, we think the NEA and the public "education" system in our country sucks. Generally, we also support homeschooling, and homeschoolers.
9. A great many of us are Christians. If you think that coming into FreeConservatives and debating religion with one or more of us is having "religion forced down your throat", you will likely be laughed at, sneered at, and ridiculed.
10. The opposite of totalitarian is NOT totalitarian. Hence, the opposite(s) of Communist, Fascist, Marxist, and Socialist, is freedom. There are NOT totalitarian regimes at "both ends of the political spectrum". At one end, you will find all the totalitarian regimes (though in different economic paradigms), and at the opposite end of the political spectrum, you will find freedom. Anarchy is not complete freedom. Liberty is.
Like I said above, I don't speak for EVERYONE here, but that's why I used many qualifiers above. Some of my fellow Conservatives are free to post responses and additions, but the 10 points above are the ones that I have noticed appearing constantly, with every new influx of refugees from some left wing sites.
The things above are inherently Conservative ideals. By posting on a bulletin board, you will, in all likelihood, be unable to sway anyone that is here.
If your opinions differ from mine, I'll offer you the usual disclaimer.
"I don't care."
We're not close-minded, we're just tired of reading the same crap all the time.
With the recent influx of those wishing to "learn about Conservatives", wishing to see what the "other side thinks", or wanting to "bring about some debate", I offer the following information.
There is a large contigent of core members at FreeConservative, and while I don't speak for all of them, many of us have been here for at least a couple of years. We've discussed many issues, and lately, it seems as the same issues are being discussed over and over again as each new group of self-styled "anarchists", "leftists", those who want to know what conservatives think, and those wishing to remain label-less register and post. In the interest of saving time, I present a GENERAL consensus of what conservatives support. If you find the answer to a question you are about to post, please re-consider, or you will be likely to feel as if you are being picked on from the outset.
Regards,
TheRealLobo
1. Conservatives are as a rule, anti-abortion. Roe vs Wade is wrong, and it should be at worst, a state's decision, not the federal government's.
2. Conservatives generally support the death penalty. It prevents recidivism, and we know that it isn't a deterrent because it isn't used properly. If used properly, it would be a much better deterrent. Rather than let a condemned person languish at taxpayer expense for 3-14 years, allow the criminal to have his appeals and then finish it. It's not supposed to be rehabilitation, it's supposed to be punishment for a crime.
3. Conservatives support gun ownership as an individual right, as protected by the U.S. Constitution. You have no argument that will sway this. We also know that gun registration schemes will not deter crime any more than the death penalty will. Cars and guns aren't the same, and arguing about the registration of cars vs guns is stupid.
4. We wear the label "conservative" with pride, like a banner. When someone new posts, they will likely get labelled. As a leftist, a commie, socialist, Marxist, democrat, conservative...whatever. If you don't wish to be labelled, it's simple. Don't post.
5. We don't support "gay rights". If a homosexual wants to be treated the same as a heterosexual, keep your bedroom activities in your bedroom. We don't care if you like another guy's hairy butt. We just don't want you telling us we need to find it acceptable. You can be a homosexual without demanding that I embrace the idea. We also as a rule don't believe in "gay marriage". Marriage, by definition is between a man and a woman. Homosexuals have corrupted enough words in the English language without the need to redefine the word marriage. Call it something else...buttiage or something.
6. We also usually have a copy of the U.S. Constitution close at hand. We've probably all read it at least once, and refer to it often. If you want to quote something or argue that something is Constitututional or not, be VERY sure of what you are typing.
7. The "separation of Church and State" is not grounded in the U.S. Constitution. The phrase does NOT appear ANYWHERE in the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution protects freedom of religion, not freedom FROM religion.
8. As rule, we think the NEA and the public "education" system in our country sucks. Generally, we also support homeschooling, and homeschoolers.
9. A great many of us are Christians. If you think that coming into FreeConservatives and debating religion with one or more of us is having "religion forced down your throat", you will likely be laughed at, sneered at, and ridiculed.
10. The opposite of totalitarian is NOT totalitarian. Hence, the opposite(s) of Communist, Fascist, Marxist, and Socialist, is freedom. There are NOT totalitarian regimes at "both ends of the political spectrum". At one end, you will find all the totalitarian regimes (though in different economic paradigms), and at the opposite end of the political spectrum, you will find freedom. Anarchy is not complete freedom. Liberty is.
Like I said above, I don't speak for EVERYONE here, but that's why I used many qualifiers above. Some of my fellow Conservatives are free to post responses and additions, but the 10 points above are the ones that I have noticed appearing constantly, with every new influx of refugees from some left wing sites.
The things above are inherently Conservative ideals. By posting on a bulletin board, you will, in all likelihood, be unable to sway anyone that is here.
If your opinions differ from mine, I'll offer you the usual disclaimer.
"I don't care."
We're not close-minded, we're just tired of reading the same crap all the time.