Porn in Class: Human Sexuality

[PrezLeefun]

Ok so my teacher for Human Sexuality (it is a psych course) is going to be showing a three part movie on sexuality. It will feature a homosexual male couple, a homosexual female couple, and a heterosexual couple. They will be talking about their relationship dynamics and sex lives in interviews.

Now all that I dont have a problem with. It has an educational purpose. But for each segment, there is a second part... this is part shows each couple having sex.

Now I fail to see an educational purpose in seeing this. It is one thing to discuss sex and types of sexual activity in class, it is quite another to show explicit pornography in class.

What should I do? I dont want to watch the second half of these film segments but I dont want to be penalized for not being present and its too late to switch into another class and I cannot drop the course without losing my financial aid.

[TeenageRepublican]

Wow, that's a tough spot. I wish I could offer advice. I'll pray for you Prez. :(

[PrezLeefun]

Thanks TR.

[Rhino]

I'd simply leave when the second parts come on.

[LivingDeadGirl]

Have you talked to your prof about it? Try using "religious reasons" as an excuse. Seems to work for everyone else!

[buzzthepug!]

Sounds like the prof is a perv.

I love how pervs cloak their bad habits as "academic". There is nothing academic about watching people have sex. I'm sure Einstein didn't watch people having sex while attending university.

You have to be brave to stand up to the perverted academics and the gay mafia, PLF.

[cerberus]

Well you are taking a class entitled Human Sexuality, it's hard to have much sympathy there. And you aren't watching hard-core porn, you are watching couples have sex and there is a difference.

[Neil Peart]

And you aren't watching hard-core porn, you are watching couples have sex and there is a difference.:rotflmbo::rotflmbo::rotflmbo::rotflmbo ::rotflmbo: :rotflmbo::rotflmbo::rotflmbo::rotflmbo::rotflmbo:

LOL, for a while you had me thinking you were serious. :thumb:

[PrezLeefun]

Well you are taking a class entitled Human Sexuality, it's hard to have much sympathy there. And you aren't watching hard-core porn, you are watching couples have sex and there is a difference.

This Human Sexuality course is about psychology; not human sexuality in film, thus there is not a purpose for the veiwing of pornography in class. And that is what the teacher called it.... pornography. So it is hard core porn.


If you seriously think it is different you better start explaining why.

[MaxLoad]

Why don't you write out your objections and hand them to the professor as you leave?
Maybe send another copy to the dean and keep a copy for yourself?

But yeah, the prof is a perv.

[PrezLeefun]

I dont know how far I want to take this.... if it effects my grade I am in deep poo.

[CzechPrince]

Ok so my teacher for Human Sexuality (it is a psych course) is going to be showing a three part movie on sexuality. It will feature a homosexual male couple, a homosexual female couple, and a heterosexual couple. They will be talking about their relationship dynamics and sex lives in interviews.

Now all that I dont have a problem with. It has an educational purpose. But for each segment, there is a second part... this is part shows each couple having sex.

Now I fail to see an educational purpose in seeing this. It is one thing to discuss sex and types of sexual activity in class, it is quite another to show explicit pornography in class.

What should I do? I dont want to watch the second half of these film segments but I dont want to be penalized for not being present and its too late to switch into another class and I cannot drop the course without losing my financial aid.

Talk to your teacher. If you tell them you don't feel comfertable or you have objections, you can probably work something out.

Of course, they could say it's part of the grade. Then you'll just have to close your eyes.

[PrezLeefun]

Talk to your teacher.

I did ask him what the "educational purpose" was for the second half of the video and he said so we could observe how different people have sex.

With an answer like that (and knowing how dopey this guy is) I dont think I am gonna get much more out of him.

What else would I say?

[Taylor1]

Sounds like the prof is a perv.

I love how pervs cloak their bad habits as "academic". There is nothing academic about watching people have sex. I'm sure Einstein didn't watch people having sex while attending university.

You have to be brave to stand up to the perverted academics and the gay mafia, PLF.


True, it'd be hilarious I can't stand how people debate this.. as you see the male
going down on the other one, notice how he bends or something like wtf :rotflmbo::rotflmbo: I just don't get how this is educational, and it is something that needs to be seen. Can't someone just go on the internet and find the second parts..?

[MrSanity]

What a damning dilemma.

I'm sure your education isn't cheap, which leads me to question why dumpster porn is included in the curriculum.

I have to be entirely honest - I don't know if I could stomach the moral courage to speak out about it, for all the minuses that could occur.

However, I don't think an exam is going to be based on anything this professor is trying to scarf down your throat. Unless...

Essay Question #2: In Weapons of Ass Destruction, what stimulated Boy George's male orgasm? (Be specific, I want all the details...)

And I thought my psychology class was bad!

They threw in plenty of bile on masturbation, the Kinsey Scale, and plenty of information (or, propaganda) on homosexual relationships.

Perhaps that's a prerequisite to the equivalent of your current course.

But remember, it's a "private" matter (even though we're forced to view it in tax-funded classes, forced to talk about it, and forced to compensate out of our own pockets for the dangerous behavior these psychosexual maniacs engage in).

[/end of rant]

[TeenageRepublican]

This is why I plan to go to Hillsdale college. It's conservative and it require students to study the Constitution. It has creative writing courses.

I don't see how watching porn will help you in life.

[MrSanity]

This is why I plan to go to Hillsdale college. It's conservative and it require students to study the Constitution. It has creative writing courses.

I don't see how watching porn will help you in life. :thumb:

You won't miss anything worthwhile.

[CzechPrince]

I did ask him what the "educational purpose" was for the second half of the video and he said so we could observe how different people have sex.

With an answer like that (and knowing how dopey this guy is) I dont think I am gonna get much more out of him.

What else would I say?

Tell him your concern, say you don't want to watch the video for X amount of reasons, and then if he's a dick about it, just close your eyes lol.

[PrezLeefun]

^^^I guess so...

[Wolfcounsel]

"I don't see how watching porn will help you in life." --TeenageRepublican

It's annoying and boring. In front of you appears a beautiful naked woman showing all her body. Then a couple of minutes later, some ogre's butthole ugly guy steps into the picture and ruins the scenery. I can imagine two fruits going at it from the start in that "sex" course. The lesbians going at it? Same thing. The female morons need male type sexual aids in the first place. Without fail.

[Trevelyan]

I took a Human Sexuality course in college. On the last day of class our professor showed us some porno called "Top Guns." Anyway, he gave us the option to leave if we wanted to. One girl decided to, and he even said "Good for you" when she was walking out.

As for this, the professor should give you the option to leave during that part without penalty.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I did ask him what the "educational purpose" was for the second half of the video and he said so we could observe how different people have sex.

With that answer, I would have questioned the academic purpose instead. Why does one need to be "educated" in such a manner if it's not academically relevant to anything being tested?



Okay, we'll here's my two cents:

I agree pretty much with CzechPrince, but before going on further, my first question would be to you, Prez ... and it's a hard one. What is this class worth to you - academically, morally, and principally. Everyday we are faced with compromises to our own moral system, sometimes we are asked to compromise our principles and sometimes we are faced with compromising them for "educational" purposes. Are you willing to compromise or are you so disturbed and offended by this morally and principally that you simply cannot stand by while this happens or overlook it for a grade? That's a blunt way to put it, but them's the facts.

If this were ME, and I am speaking ONLY for myself, this is something that I simply couldn't sit by and not say something. Since you have already questioned the teacher, I would put in writing my objections to this display, I would point out that no academic reason was given for showing this and you weren't given a sufficient explanation of how this was relevant to any testing or your grade, ergo not relevant to the class. I would make sure a copy went to the Dean and whoever is over this teacher's department, as well as the teacher himself. I would not be argumentative, I would be more like a lawyer, laying out reasons against and supporting why I would not be viewing this "movie" and my expectation that I not be penalized for my refusal to submit myself to this sort of thing. Then I would just have to resign myself to the outcome. Being a lone voice in the wilderness is not easy, standing up for what one thinks is right isn't either -- but there's always a cost to be paid. It's up to the individual to decided what it's worth.

[Eagle1]

Well you are taking a class entitled Human Sexuality, it's hard to have much sympathy there. And you aren't watching hard-core porn, you are watching couples have sex and there is a difference.

this is the first time I have agreed with cerberus

while you should be able to opt out of watching (hell, in college you shouldn't even be required to attend classes) it is a college. Institutions run by libs force immorality on students.
Your profs reasons for watching sex acts is moronic. That doesn't change the fact that he decides what is going to be on the syllabus.

[CzechPrince]

Just make sure you aren't irate or irrational, be calm, polite and corteous. It'll go a long way, especially with a professor.

[Timberwolf]

I'd email Bill O'Reilly and expose the pervert for the scumbag he truly is...and think about a transfer to another SANE university (if there is still one in existence).

[PrezLeefun]

^^^I had a dream I did that..... it didnt pan out well in the dream. Also TW... I go to this college for free. I dont want to screw that up.


I would never be disrespectful to a teacher, its not my style. I still havn't decided what to do about this.

[TeenageRepublican]

How do I put this nicely?

Prez, welcome to hell.

[MaxLoad]

Do you have a spiritual confidant? Lean on someone older that you trust. Get some advice from an older woman. Stop in a church and talk to a priest.
Anything!
Get those synapses working!
You'll make the right choice!
Best of luck...

[PrezLeefun]

^^^ Well I talk to Homes.....

[Timberwolf]

Then, get on the horn to Homey, girl!!!

I respect that you don't wanna mess things up (in all honestly, I was having a wee bit of a conniption fit earlier...thank you for not taking my advice).

[TeenageRepublican]

Just a wee bit of course.

[Timberwolf]

LOL...yup.

I want to add to this that the name of the course is human SEXUALITY...not sexual RELATIONS or porn 101. It deals with the psychological aspects of sexual (dys)function, NOT the act itself (straight or otherwise).

The prof is a perv and everyone knows it.

[edgeworth]

My advice to you would be simply to ask beforehand if you can leave the room before he starts the movie. If the guy is not a complete asshole then he should let you. However, if he says no then all I can say to you is that you would have to make a choice.

[DeclinetoState]

From the OP:It will feature a homosexual male couple, a homosexual female couple, and a heterosexual couple. They will be talking about their relationship dynamics and sex lives in interviews.

Now all that I dont have a problem with. It has an educational purpose. But for each segment, there is a second part... this is part shows each couple having sex.
I know how straights have sex. I know how homosexual men have sex (assuming we're talking about "fudge-packing"). But how do lesbians "do it"? That part might be interesting.

Yegad, I'm starting to sound like Howard Stern.

:evilgrin:

[DeclinetoState]

Was your professor involved in this? http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57341

[TeenageRepublican]

DtS, we all know that was Bill Clinton doing naughty things... if Prez's professor is Bill, I wish him luck... hell hath no fury like an angry black woman... ;)

[NRP]

I hope you have an ipod. When the lights go down, crank that s@#& up!

[PrezLeefun]

I dont have an ipod... but I did speak with my teacher. He said I have to stay for the interview part but I can feel free to leave during the sex.

So I did.... and I have two more days of walking out in the middle of class.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Good for you for standing up to this ca-ca! I'll be praying for you over the next couple of days (of course, I always pray for you, but I'll send an extra kick with them during this, :smirk:)

[PrezLeefun]

^^^Well today I unfortunately had to stay because there was lecture after the video so I diverted my eyes to some doodling while they were diddeling.....

[MrSanity]

I dont have an ipod... but I did speak with my teacher. He said I have to stay for the interview part but I can feel free to leave during the sex.

So I did.... and I have two more days of walking out in the middle of class.Three days worth of porno?

[CONSERVATIVE HERO]

Ok so my teacher for Human Sexuality (it is a psych course) is going to be showing a three part movie on sexuality. It will feature a homosexual male couple, a homosexual female couple, and a heterosexual couple. They will be talking about their relationship dynamics and sex lives in interviews.

Now all that I dont have a problem with. It has an educational purpose. But for each segment, there is a second part... this is part shows each couple having sex.

Now I fail to see an educational purpose in seeing this. It is one thing to discuss sex and types of sexual activity in class, it is quite another to show explicit pornography in class.

What should I do? I dont want to watch the second half of these film segments but I dont want to be penalized for not being present and its too late to switch into another class and I cannot drop the course without losing my financial aid.
This is outrageous. It has no educational purpose whatsoever. It's just more academia sanctioned promotion of pornography and homosexuality under the guise of education/science.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity...
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals. - [Marxist goals]I've walked out of things that were "required" for far less than this. When I was told I had to stay I laughed in the chick's face. "You can't leave," (brainwashing you can't be successful if you're not in the room, in order to keep you here I'll next attempt coercion) it's required," she said. There's no way in hell I'd sit through this. I'd fight them tooth and nail. I'd go to the press (email Bill O' Reilly), something, anything.

That's me though.

If you're really worried they'll make you suffer for refusing to participate, just tell them you're a muslim, and watch them grovel apologetically at your feet and then flee from the sight of you.

Of course, they could say it's part of the grade. Then you'll just have to close your eyes.
God, what a spineless tool. You make me want to vomit. The hell she "has to." Encouraging this woman to accept this travesty in any way, shape, or form is abominable. You're a fine example of the kind of sniveling amoral degenerates our institutions of higher indoctrination are producing these days.

[PrezLeefun]

Three days worth of porno?

Unfortunately yes.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Prez,
You should contact Prof. Mike S. Adams (http://www.dradams.org/) at UNC-Wilmington, and let him know about this class and it's "requirements". He is the master at exposing this kind of stuff to the light of day, and alerting parents, students, and taxpayers to this type of "higher" educational abuse.

You should definitely read some of his columns (http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MikeSAdams) at Townhall.com.

[CzechPrince]

God, what a spineless tool. You make me want to vomit. The hell she "has to." Encouraging this woman to accept this travesty in any way, shape, or form is abominable.

Did you not read what I posted earlier, or are you just trying to be a total self righteous jackass for no reason?

I first stated she needed to speak with her teacher, cite her reasons for opposing it, and ask to be opted out or an alternative assignment.

Or, worse comes to worse, if she wants the grade, she'll have to go and close her eyes. She has no other choice than that, except risking failing the assignment. So you tell me what I said was incorrect. That's the reality of the situation. Yeah she can walk out, but she might risk failing.

I assume from your post above you have been in school, so you know there are always things certain professors will do and say you may not agree with it, but you have to pick your battles. For her, this might be one of them. I don't know. I merely suggested her options, and nothing what I said is incorrect.

And surprise, Prez understands what I said and had no qualm with any of it, you're the only one who did. I was speaking to her, student to student, and as a friend.

You're a fine example of the kind of sniveling amoral degenerates our institutions of higher indoctrination are producing these days. I'll take my, "degrees of indoctrination" and live a successful life, and I'll be happy with that.

[CzechPrince]

I dont have an ipod... but I did speak with my teacher. He said I have to stay for the interview part but I can feel free to leave during the sex.

So I did.... and I have two more days of walking out in the middle of class.

Good! It worked out.

[PrezLeefun]

Not quite.... but I am dealing with it.

[CzechPrince]

Not quite.... but I am dealing with it.

Well, you were able to opt out of the part you didn't want to see the most though. Send me a PM and let me know the details when you get time.

[TeenageRepublican]

I'm just curious... which part did you have to stay in? The lesbian sex, straight sex, or the homosexual sex?

[PrezLeefun]

There are three days...three videos. We already did dudley doodles and licking lucies so what nature intended is next.

I did have the option to walk out, so please no more bashing of the teacher is he is a weiro, yes, maybe even pervy, but not unfair. But because there was discussion after the videos I choose to stay. Class participation counts for alot and I need my GPA up.

I know its not the most honorable choice and I am not feeling particulary good about myself concerning it, but I chose to stay and diverted my eyes. This will all be over after Monday.

[LivingDeadGirl]

Did he give you the option of returning after the videos....you know you leave for the video then can come back for the discussion?

Either way, I'm proud of you for having the guts to say something to him, too many people wouldn't have.

[CzechPrince]

There are three days...three videos. We already did dudley doodles and licking lucies so what nature intended is next.

I did have the option to walk out, so please no more bashing of the teacher is he is a weiro, yes, maybe even pervy, but not unfair. But because there was discussion after the videos I choose to stay. Class participation counts for alot and I need my GPA up.

I know its not the most honorable choice and I am not feeling particulary good about myself concerning it, but I chose to stay and diverted my eyes. This will all be over after Monday.

You know what, don't get down on yourself. It's your grades and your future. I think you'd be hitting yourself in the head if you had skipped out on it and screwed up your grade.

[TeenageRepublican]

God, what a spineless tool. You make me want to vomit. The hell she "has to." Encouraging this woman to accept this travesty in any way, shape, or form is abominable. You're a fine example of the kind of sniveling amoral degenerates our institutions of higher indoctrination are producing these days.

He's not encouraging her to accept the porn, damn it! He's telling here to just not look at it!

And you know who's to blame for the "sniveling amoral degenerates our institutions of higher indoctrination"?
People like you who keep shoveling religious "God is against this" bullshit! Why do you think people are so turned off to Christianity these days? It's because over-religious intolerant "Christians" like you make people think: Hmm... do I want to become this?

I don't know what the hell happened to you. You used to be one of the best posters. Now you're just coming off as a troll!

I apologize in advance to the mods that may/not move this thread to flame wars. I get so sick of people like this trying to define what all Christians should be.

[Trevelyan]

Indeed.

[PrezLeefun]

He's not encouraging her to accept the porn, damn it! He's telling here to just not look at it!

And you know who's to blame for the "sniveling amoral degenerates our institutions of higher indoctrination"?
People like you who keep shoveling religious "God is against this" bullshit! Why do you think people are so turned off to Christianity these days? It's because over-religious intolerant "Christians" like you make people think: Hmm... do I want to become this?

I don't know what the hell happened to you. You used to be one of the best posters. Now you're just coming off as a troll!

I apologize in advance to the mods that may/not move this thread to flame wars. I get so sick of people like this trying to define what all Christians should be.

CH has a bad habit of impersonating an ass. Ignore him.

[hosl]

I don't want to bump up this topic very much, but I personal thought is that: you took a class called "Human Sexuality". Now that people are openly coming out, of course the school would decide to adapt and be progressive.

[DesertFox]

Nothing progressive about queerness.

[PrezLeefun]

Being homosexual is definitly an old thing. Not as old as heterosexuality but a close second I bet. :lol:

[hosl]

Nothing progressive about queerness.

But people've been only openley coming out since the 70s. That's 30 years versus the millions of years of closeted homosexuality in mankind.

[DesertFox]

So? What's progressive about it? Seems to me it's REgressive, as in regressing to infantility, playing with yourself, practicing self-love, moving from one thing to another quickly rather than really learning about the first.

I got no prollem with queers privately queering each other, but neither do I see any reason to pretend there's anything "progressive" about what they privately do to each other, much less to view it as something wonderful to be publicly celebrated. It isn't.

[hosl]

So? What's progressive about it? Seems to me it's REgressive, as in regressing to infantility, playing with yourself, practicing self-love, moving from one thing to another quickly rather than really learning about the first.

Self-love? I thought some heterosexual couples "self love" before copulating too...

[DesertFox]

I don't know what you mean and suspect you don't, either.

[TeenageRepublican]

I think he means that some straight people masturbate...?

[PrezLeefun]

I love myself :lol:

[TeenageRepublican]

You too?!

[PrezLeefun]

:lol:

[hosl]

I think he means that some straight people masturbate...?

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Both gay and straight couples do both. And how does being gay refer rushing and not getting to know one another. I think that since there are so many straights than gays, that they would be the orientation more likely to actually get to know one another.

[TeenageRepublican]

Where'd you get the idea that all straight and homosexual couples masturbate? I thought having someone to love would defeat the purpose of loving yourself...

[DesertFox]

You apparently don't know how to think in metaphors.

Loving someone physically like yourself (as queers) is metaphorical self-loving. Loving someone physically different (as heterosexuals) is not.

Queer playing with each other sexually is metaphorically "getting to know yourself" since physically your partner is like you. Hetero playing with each other sexually is getting outside yourself.

Queers are famously jealous and famous for temper tantrums, just like babies in the Terrible Twos when they discover they don't rule the world around them.

How old are you, hosl? You sound like about 16.

[TeenageRepublican]

He's younger than me. I don't know his age exactly.

[DesertFox]

Then I won't bother. He's too green.

[PrezLeefun]

TR arnt you 14?

[TeenageRepublican]

Yep. 15 on July 4th.

[Neil Peart]

Yep. 15 on July 4th. That's the best birthday to have. If I had been born 11 hours earlier, I would have had the second best birthday to have.

[TeenageRepublican]

I don't think it is. It's a real pain to convince people to come over and celebrate my birthday. If they don't, I end up celebrating it in a crappy enviroment (liberal grandma's home).

[PrezLeefun]

My cuz's B-day is the same as yours TR.

[TeenageRepublican]

My family has an odd habit of being born on Holidays.
My brother, Joe, was born on Christmas Day. My sister, Abby, was born on Labor Day. My dad was born on January 1st, and my mom is the only one not born on a holiday. It's like a curse...

[Neil Peart]

My family has an odd habit of being born on Holidays.
My brother, Joe, was born on Christmas Day. My sister, Abby, was born on Labor Day. My dad was born on January 1st, and my mom is the only one not born on a holiday. It's like a curse...Meh, I'm still unhappy that I was born 11 hours too late to share a birthday with Reagan.