View Full Version : Death of the Internet? (I am pretty sure this affects us)
PrezLeefun
04-16-2008, 04:12 PM
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What exactly is going on? How does it effect us? And if it is as bad as it sounds what exactly do we do to stop it?
I want to hear what Tonya has to say about it.
Rhino
04-16-2008, 04:36 PM
I had a hard time paying attention when the camera was on her. :lol:
PrezLeefun
04-16-2008, 04:47 PM
Boys! Wake up! Does anyone have any details about this? I have only seen some of my favorite online bloggers talking about it.
EveningStar
04-16-2008, 04:49 PM
I had a hard time paying attention when the camera was on her. :lol:
Tell me about it!
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k, that's a thread killer
Rhino
04-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Boys! Wake up! Does anyone have any details about this? I have only seen some of my favorite online bloggers talking about it.Rumors about net neutrality have been flying for years. Anybody who tried it would go out of business fast. I wouldn't worry too much about it, at least not yet.
EveningStar
04-16-2008, 05:30 PM
Admin Note: Inappropriate image removed.
Harrumph
TeenageRepublican
04-16-2008, 05:31 PM
I'm pretty sure that girl was abreast of the situation...
CzechPrince
04-16-2008, 05:39 PM
I'm confused.
EveningStar
04-16-2008, 05:40 PM
I'm confused.
By what?
PrezLeefun
04-16-2008, 06:36 PM
^^^Appearently the breast. Men :rolleyes:
CzechPrince
04-16-2008, 06:47 PM
By what?
It was blank when I clicked the thread earlier.
DoctorDoom
04-16-2008, 07:22 PM
On topic, the predictions about the death of the Internet have been appearing for years. If anything is going to kill it, it will be the botnets sending a gazillion spam emails for drugs and willy enhancers every day, and the proliferation of P2P "services" for sharing pirated movies.
Inasmuch as multinational corporations of vast resources use the Web, they have a vested interest in keeping it running.
There will be a transition to IPv6 from IPv4, inasmuch as the available IPv4 addresses are close to being exhausted. Here's the difference in available combinations:
IPv4 addresses: 4,294,967,296 (2<sup>32</sup>)
IPv6 addresses: 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,45 6 (2<sup>128</sup>)
It is common to see examples that attempt to show that the IPv6 address space is extremely large. For example, IPv6 supports 2<sup>128</sup> (about 3.4×10<sup>38</sup>) addresses, or approximately 5×10<sup>28</sup> addresses for each of the roughly 6.5 billion (6.5×10<sup>9</sup>) people alive today.[1] In a different perspective, this is 252 addresses for every star in the known universe[2] – more than ten billion billion billion times as many addresses per star than IPv4 supported.IPv6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6)
Every human on Earth could be assigned a unique IP# without even scratching the surface of the potential size of IPv6.
What we'll see in the next few years will be mind-boggling. Forget the flying cars and the domed cities of Popular Mechanics covers in the 50s. The revolution will be in computing.
DoctorDoom
04-16-2008, 07:36 PM
Re "Net neutrality", whether it's good or evil depends on who's telling the story.
Network neutrality (equivalently net neutrality, Internet neutrality or simply NN) refers to a principle that is applied to residential broadband networks, and potentially to all networks. Precise definitions vary, but a broadband network free of restrictions on the kinds of equipment that may be attached, on the modes of communication allowed, which does not restrict content, sites or platforms, and where communication is not unreasonably degraded by other communication streams, would be considered neutral by most observers.[1][2][3]
The possibility of regulations designed to mandate the neutrality of the Internet has been subject to fierce debate in various fora. Though the term did not enter popular use until several years later, since the early 2000's advocates of net neutrality and associated rules have engaged in mutual campaigns of propaganda with broadband providers over the ability to use "last mile" infrastructure to block opposed internet applications, and content providers (e.g. websites, services, protocols), particularly those served by competitors. Neutrality proponents also claim that telecom companies seek to impose the tiered service model more for the purpose of profiting from their control of the pipeline rather than for any demand for their content or services.[4] Others have stated that they believe net neutrality to be primarily important as a preservation of current freedoms.[5] As Vint Cerf, co-inventor of the Internet Protocol, has stated, "The Internet was designed with no gatekeepers over new content or services. A lightweight but enforceable neutrality rule is needed to ensure that the Internet continues to thrive." [6]
Critics, meanwhile, call net neutrality rules "a solution in search of a problem" and believe that net neutrality rules would reduce incentives to upgrade networks and launch next generation network services.[7] Others argue that discrimination of some kinds, particularly to guarantee "Quality of Service," is not problematic, but highly desirable. Bob Kahn, Internet Protocol's co-inventor, has called the term "net neutrality" a slogan, and states that he opposes establishing it, warning that "nothing interesting can happen inside the net" if it passes: "If the goal is to encourage people to build new capabilities, then the party that takes the lead in building that new capability, is probably only going to have it on their net to start with and it is probably not going to be on anybody else's net.[8]"
In a June 2007 report, the Federal Trade Commission urged restraint with respect to the new regulations proposed by network neutrality advocates, noting the "broadband industry is a relatively young and evolving one," and given no "significant market failure or demonstrated consumer harm from conduct by broadband providers," such regulations "may well have adverse effects on consumer welfare, despite the good intentions of their proponents[9]." In turn, the FTC conclusions have been questioned in Congress, as in September 2007, when Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., chairman of the Senate interstate commerce, trade and tourism subcommittee, told FTC Chairwoman Deborah Platt Majoras that he feared new services as ground-breaking as Google could not get started in a system with price discrimination.[10]Network neutrality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality)
Eagle1
04-16-2008, 08:03 PM
watched for about 3 min, after they didn't go back to Tanya I turned it off
at this point no one company can stop the net, a market in this area will demand freedom and eventually get it
TeenageRepublican
04-16-2008, 10:19 PM
I see "virgin" is a tag. I expect negative results to come out of this.
Rhino
04-17-2008, 07:01 AM
Yeah. Virgins are never a good thing. :lol:
Lazarus
04-17-2008, 08:12 AM
...What we'll see in the next few years will be mind-boggling. Forget the flying cars and the domed cities of Popular Mechanics covers in the 50s. The revolution will be in computing.Im upgrading my puter this week to an AMD 64 bit dual core CPU... Plus a new graphics card and a 500gb hard drive... Im excited to get this thing up and running...
Of course by the time the parts arrive they will likely be obsolete...
DoctorDoom
04-17-2008, 08:20 AM
The Virgin Media (http://www.virginmedia.com/) issue will not affect anyone in the US. It's a British ISP.
Virgin's BPI Deal & Net Neutrality Attack Played Down (http://www.trustedreviews.com/networking/news/2008/04/17/Virgins-BPI-Deal-Net-Neutrality-Attack-Played-Down/p1)
The geeky types in the vid are obviously "file sharers" (aka copyright-violating pirates) who don't want limits on their illegal activity.
DoctorDoom
04-17-2008, 08:24 AM
... and a 500gb hard drive... Back it up regularly. A crash with a 100-GB drive is bad enough. Drives are quite reliable, but it takes just one hiccup.
HomeschoolrsRUs
04-17-2008, 08:30 AM
Back it up regularly. A crash with a 100-GB drive is bad enough. Drives are quite reliable, but it takes just one hiccup.
Doc, does "back up" require floppy discs? I regularly run scan disk and defrag, and the restore point, but have never "backed-up" (I guess, if that's not what doing those three things is). My computer doesn't have a floppy disc drive, so if that's what it takes, I guess I'm in a pickle of a mess.
Rhino
04-17-2008, 09:05 AM
Backing up a 500gb hard drive to floppies would require thousands of floppies, so no.
DesertFox
04-17-2008, 09:08 AM
Homes, get a jump (flash) drive. It plugs into a USB port on your puter and is then a part of the puter until you unplug it again. Greatest invention since Windows.
Lazarus
04-17-2008, 09:11 AM
Well I have tech geeks here who are advising me to keep my 120gb drive in there too, and use it to hold my perosnal files... So in effect I will be backing up the old 120gb drive... I'll keep the ever-increasing program files on the big drive... I don't mind reinstalling programs as long as my personal files are backed up...
In fact one guy says he uses his small drive (100+ gb) as his backup device - he periodically opens the box, plugs it in, copies his personal files over to it, and then removes it to a safe place... Apparently he has been doing this for years... An interesting approach...
Do any of you use flash drives as backup media?
EDIT: Sorry Fox, I didnt see your post above... I guess that answers my question...
Rhino
04-17-2008, 09:13 AM
I back up to my server.
HomeschoolrsRUs
04-17-2008, 09:16 AM
Homes, get a jump (flash) drive. It plugs into a USB port on your puter and is then a part of the puter until you unplug it again. Greatest invention since Windows.
Hey, I gots one of those!! Says: Integral 1GB -- Didn't know you could use it to back things up. I use mine to transfer info from one of my computers to the other, because I don't have them networked. It's the only way I can download music (on my one computer hooked to cable) to transfer to the other computer (which doesn't get internet, but is the only computer that will work with my daughter's MP3 player). Guess I'll need to get another one and set it aside specifically for the computer back-up! Thanks DF :thumb:
Lazarus
04-17-2008, 09:22 AM
I have about four 512mb flash drives... We've use floppies to this point but I'm gonna start using the flash drives from now on I think...
I have quite a few very large programs on my puter - I admit to being a gaming junkie, and games are growing exponentially these days... My 120gb drive that I thought was huge 3 years ago is filling up quickly... I have about 20% capacity left...
Hence the new hard drive...
Rhino
04-17-2008, 09:22 AM
Hey, I gots one of those!! Says: Integral 1GB...If you want to back up a 500GB drive, you'll need 499 more of those. :rotflmbo:
HomeschoolrsRUs
04-17-2008, 09:23 AM
I've not filled the whole 500g up though -- I'll only need 103 :lol:
Rhino
04-17-2008, 09:27 AM
Realistically, you don't need to back up all the data on your hard drive. It will likely be much more than 1 GB though.
HomeschoolrsRUs
04-17-2008, 09:30 AM
Only thing I'm concerned about is my homeschooling records -- they'll probably fit on a flash, I would imagine.
Lazarus
04-17-2008, 09:42 AM
Realistically, you don't need to back up all the data on your hard drive. It will likely be much more than 1 GB though.That's what Im thinkin too, Bro... I kinda like this plan of using the older smaller drive to keep my critical personal files on, and doing the backup from there....
The way it was explained to me was, when I take the machine down and replace the CPU, motherboard, etc, I am to remove the old drive and set it aside... Then complete the installation with the new 500gb drive, fire it up, load the operating system and drivers, then take it back down and put the older smaller drive back in... Supposedly the system will automatically define that one as the "D" drive, and will use the larger 500gb as the main "C" drive...
Does that sound right?:question:
DoctorDoom
04-17-2008, 09:46 AM
Backing up usually involves saving files that can't be replaced. Burning them to CDs is an effective way, remembering that the maximum storage capacity of a typical CD is about 650 MB, minus space for file system overhead. I've burned a lot of my digital camera pix to CDs.
For routine backups, a second hard drive in the case, or an external hard drive connected by USB or Firewire, is better. Their capacity is much greater than CDs. This is my latest one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/CompTech/MaxtorOneTouch.jpg
It's available up to 750 GB. I like Maxtor, but there are several brands. Here's TigerDirect's main page for them.
External USB/Firewire (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=136&srkey=external%20hard%20drive)
I'm amazed at how many one-terabyte drives there are (equal to about 1540 CDs). Unless you have a gazillion files or a lot of really big ones, 1 TB is overkill.
Like all hard drives, external ones can go west. However, the likelihood of a simultaneous failure of the puter's drive and the USB drive is nil.
They're fairly cheap insurance, given the alternative of gigabytes of irreplaceable files going to that Great Bit Bucket in The Sky.
HomeschoolrsRUs
04-17-2008, 09:55 AM
K, now I'm confused ... Doc, I have a 500g external drive (MyBook (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8475063&st=My+Book+external+hard+drive&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1185271084002)) because my original hard drive is almost full (with software, not documents). I can't (figure out how to?) transfer the software to the external drive, so I transfered all of my document files to the external drive. So if they're on the external drive, do I still need to back them up?
Lazarus
04-17-2008, 10:01 AM
...I like Maxtor, but there are several brands. Here's TigerDirect's main page for them...Im using Seagate - I've had good service from them... And I bought all my components for this upgrade from Newegg... They provided about half of my components when I first built this puter 3 years ago (at Doc's encouragement), and their service and prices are really good....
Homes, do you have your machine on a really good surge protector? Not a power strip but a real surge protector... Even if you do, the best insurance for you is to unplug the external drive when its not in use... That way at least a lightning surge cant touch it... Then plug it back in when you are puting...
RogerFGay
04-17-2008, 10:01 AM
I don't have a clue. I know about SlingBox / SlingPlayer in the US - is that the kind of thing Virgin wants to do? Don't see how that's a problem. It doesn't shut down the internet for other kinds of traffic. It allows people who are paying for cable television to watch on the road via computer and Pocket PC.
If this is what it's about then I have to side with the CEO, although maybe he was misquoted or didn't say it exactly right. Claiming there's a network neutrality problem in this context would be a load of bullacks.
2thePoint
04-17-2008, 10:07 AM
Back in the Day, one of my first lessons under the cruel hand of Experience was losing a half-day's work because I hadn't backed up (that, and coming back from lunch to see my long report had all printed on one stinking line because the pin-feed printer jammed). So I've been paranoid about backups ever since.
I have an external drive for backups since I have Leopard's TimeMachine. But without that, I'd back up any documents, databases, and other things that you can't just download or reinstall to replace. Meaning you don't need to backup things like your browser (but make sure you have a way to replace your bookmarks). Once a year I backup my photos and movies to CDs and only keep the last 2 years on my main drive.
Unlike the real Heaven, with the Bit Bucket in the Sky you won't ever see your lost bits again. So it's best to be benevolent and backup every bit.
DoctorDoom
04-17-2008, 10:19 AM
In fact one guy says he uses his small drive (100+ gb) as his backup device - he periodically opens the box, plugs it in, copies his personal files over to it, and then removes it to a safe place... Apparently he has been doing this for years... An interesting approach...He could save a LOT of time by using one of these.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/CompTech/KingwinKF101.jpg
It's a plug-in system that has a hard drive in a removable drawer. This is what they look like when installed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/CompTech/20080417-1.jpg
The top one is the main drive, the bottom is the data drive. The installation is a simple, one-time operation. Insert the key to unlock it and the tray comes out, with the slot covered by the built-in door. Theoretically, the drives can be hot-swapped, but I'm not brave enough to try it.
For saving critical information, this can't be beat. Save it to the drive, remove it and store in a fireproof safe for security. It's great for home businesses.
One added advantage for geeks is that the trays eliminate multi-boot drives. I have XP SP2 on the main drive, but in thirty seconds, I can swap drives and boot up in Win 98SE. It's great for running older DOS-based games. And if I ever decide to play with Linux, I'll pop in a new drive, load it, and go.
Rhino
04-17-2008, 10:26 AM
That's what Im thinkin too, Bro... I kinda like this plan of using the older smaller drive to keep my critical personal files on, and doing the backup from there....
The way it was explained to me was, when I take the machine down and replace the CPU, motherboard, etc, I am to remove the old drive and set it aside... Then complete the installation with the new 500gb drive, fire it up, load the operating system and drivers, then take it back down and put the older smaller drive back in... Supposedly the system will automatically define that one as the "D" drive, and will use the larger 500gb as the main "C" drive...
Does that sound right?:question:Yes, that sounds right. The only problem you may run into is a SID (Security Identifier) on an NTFS formatted drive. Each installation of Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista creates it's own SID on an NTFS hard drive. That was done so that someone else couldn't come along and insert a bootable drive of their own into your PC, and then access the files on your existing drives. Unfortunately, that sometimes meant that new installations of Windows on new drives would not read the old drives (it assumed you were an intruder). I haven't heard about this problem for a while though, so they may have fixed it in some way, possibly with user authentication.
DoctorDoom
04-17-2008, 10:31 AM
K, now I'm confused ... Doc, I have a 500g external drive (MyBook) because my original hard drive is almost full (with software, not documents). I can't (figure out how to?) transfer the software to the external drive, so I transfered all of my document files to the external drive. So if they're on the external drive, do I still need to back them up?That's a good drive. You're covered.
If program files can be restored from CDs or online, it's not necesssary to back them up. Save only those things that you can't afford to lose, e.g., years of photos, movies, etc.
One thing I do as a religious ritual is store every license key from every program that I have in multiple locations. This can be a Godsend if a drive upgrade or replacement requires reinstalling the software. Open the folder, fetch the key, and I'm in business. It beats the hell out of trying to find an old email or a lost CD key.
Rhino
04-17-2008, 10:36 AM
That's a good drive. You're covered.Not really. All of her documents reside on the external drive. They aren't copies of files on her internal drive. So if she loses that external drive, she loses her documents. She still needs to back them up elsewhere. If she loses the internal drive, she loses her O/S and programs, which could be reinstalled, though she'd lose a ton of settings and stuff. Still, it's a whole lot better than losing irreplaceable documents/files.
DoctorDoom
04-17-2008, 10:42 AM
Gotcha. I apparently missed that fine point. My ears and half of my brain are tuned to Rush. :biggrin:
An upgrade to the puter drive or a second internal drive would be good for enhanced data security.
Lazarus
04-17-2008, 12:02 PM
Well I suspect I'll get my new parts by Saturday so I'll attempt the upgrade then... Even though when I built this puter it fired up like a champ first time, I'm still a bit nervous about doing surgery on it... If I don't show up on Monday, pray for me...:um:
I like Doc's suggestion... Im gonna consider that for a possible additional upgrade...
DoctorDoom
04-29-2008, 12:02 PM
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Babes/Tanya.png" align="left" hspace="8" />Certain ISP’s are planning to limit internet access in a way that infringes upon internet freedom or ‘net neutrality’.
I'm using sex in a positive way to spread awareness. The reason why only virgins can apply is because I don’t want to make this promise to such a large amount of people that I’ll have to turn some down.
Net neutrality is paramount to safeguard free speech and innovation on the Internet. With only one arguably negative side-effect: an unusual amount of today's Internet users are virgin. That's a problem I intend to solve. In history, man has always waged war for freedom. Now it's time to obtain our freedom with love.I will make love with every virgin who defends the Internet (http://dontstayvirgin.movielol.org/main2.php)
Damn! I'm about forty years too late. Can I fake it?
The_Elucidator
04-29-2008, 12:08 PM
She looks a little like the latest teacher to get busted for having sex with a student!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/headshots/stephanieragusa3a.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Babes/Tanya.png
Wolfcounsel
04-29-2008, 12:18 PM
She looks like another bimbo/bimbette who has the need to crap on viewers with her fake sex talk.
PrezLeefun
04-29-2008, 12:37 PM
I posted a thread on this. At any rate that chick is a whore or at the very least a slut. I dont care if the internet is at stake.... thats just nasty and trashy; even to say.
DoctorDoom
04-29-2008, 02:15 PM
She ran for the senate in Belgium. Google can find photos of the billboards. They're not obscene, but ...
IAC, in Europe, that's the norm.
LivingDeadGirl
04-29-2008, 02:16 PM
I posted a thread on this. At any rate that chick is a whore or at the very least a slut. I dont care if the internet is at stake.... thats just nasty and trashy; even to say.
:yeahthat:
Rhino
04-29-2008, 03:13 PM
Threads merged.
Rhino
04-29-2008, 03:13 PM
She looks a little like the latest teacher to get busted for having sex with a student!Uh oh!!! She got caught!!!! :lol:
Stephanie Ragusa
(3/13/08 - Initial BBT Report)
Stephanie Marie Ragusa, 28, a former teacher at Davidsen Middle School in Tampa, Florida has been arrested and charged with five counts of lewd and lascivious battery on allegations of having sex with a 15-year-old boy.
It is alleged that Ragusa had a sexual relationship with the boy and that she had sex with him five times between Oct. 1, 2006 to May 4, 2007.
The alleged victim was never a student of Ragusa, although he attended Davidsen Middle School when Ragusa taught there.
Ragusa who currently works as a math teacher at Martinez Middle School in Lutz, Florida has been placed on paid administrative leave....http://badbadteacher.com/stephanie-ragusa/
Rhino
04-29-2008, 03:19 PM
She ran for the senate in Belgium. Google can find photos of the billboards. They're not obscene, but ...
IAC, in Europe, that's the norm.This is the same kind of stuff she did for her campaign.
http://www.nee-antwerpen.be/index-eng.htm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Tania_Derveaux_-_I_will_give_you_40%2C000_blowjobs.jpg/800px-Tania_Derveaux_-_I_will_give_you_40%2C000_blowjobs.jpg
Rhino
04-29-2008, 03:26 PM
Another one.
http://skirmisher.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/tania_derveaux_naked_campaign_2.jpg
She definitely knows how to get people's attention.
DoctorDoom
04-29-2008, 05:21 PM
That's the after-tamering ad. Here's the original.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Babes/TaniaAd.jpg
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