HOAX!!!! --- SHOCK: Yale senior 'induced abortions on herself' for art project

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

:flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: Tell me ... go ahead you PRO-ABORTION (pro-choice? I. Don't. Think. So.) people ... TELL ME how this isn't MURDER!!!! :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:


For senior, abortion a medium for art, political discourse (http://yaledailynews.com/story.html)


Art major Aliza Shvarts wants to make a statement.

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself as often as possible while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

The goal in creating the art exhibition, Shvarts said, was to spark conversation and debate on the relationship between art and the human body. But her project has already provoked more than just debate, inciting, for instance, outcry at a forum for fellow senior art majors held last week. And when told about Shvarts project, students on both ends of the abortion debate have expressed shock saying the project does everything from violate moral code to trivialize abortion.

But Shvarts insists her concept was not designed for shock value.

This woman PURPOSEFULLY aborted, and though it doesn't say HOW many abortions, a good clue would be her statement about "a nine-month process", which says to me she aborted (at least one) baby at nine months gestation. How in the WORLD, is this not murder of the highest order????? I am so ENRAGED!

Read the WHOLE article, make sure you read the part about what the "art project" will consist of. :flame:

[Wolfcounsel]

Murder as art, eh? Nobody but a stinking liberal (all of them) equipped with a barely-functioning brain (all of them) would applaud the asshole.

[DesertFox]

This sickening person needs a postbirth abortion.

[LivingDeadGirl]

WOW....

[DeclinetoState]

I hope this turns out to be a hoax, like the art exhibit in Costa Rica in which a dog was starved to death (http://marielouiseplum.blogspot.com/2008/04/starving-dog-as-art-gallery-confirm.html) turned out to be (allegedly).

[Neil Peart]

She oughtta be hanged.

[Valerie]

This is disgusting. Absolutely. No question.

But if it took nine months, then I don't see where she could have aborted a full-term baby. Sounds to me more like she aborted several pregnancies, which means none of them could've gone beyond a couple of months.

[Rhino]

2281

[DeclinetoState]

If this is legit, so much for abortion being "safe, legal and rare."

[ldb83]

I believe that most pro-choice people would vehemently disagree with this.

[DeclinetoState]

All anti-abortion people disagree with this (assuming by "this" we mean Shvartz's actions).

[buzzthepug!]

This student will feel an especially deep sadness in her late 30s when she's realized what she's done. She will not have words to express to her therapist the deep guilt, regret and shame keeping her awake at night.

Not to mention, she's devestated and humiliated her family. That's what they get for raising a narcississtic brat.

[Gonzo67]

Tell me ... go ahead you PRO-ABORTION (pro-choice? I. Don't. Think. So.) people ...


Homes, while I fully understand and SHARE your disgust and outrage at this act, you're opening statement could have stood to be a little more "tactful". I consider myself "pro-choice" though at the same time, Anti-Abortion.

I know this isn't the topic of the thread, but contrary to what many claim, it IS possible to be both on this issue. Where it concerns my wife, my girlfriend, my child, I am 100% Anti-Abortion and "Abortion" would never be an option unless there is a dangerous risk to my wife/girlfriend and unborn child.

At the same time, I do NOT feel it is my "place" to tell YOU what to do or make that decision for YOU. So that puts me in the "pro-choice" camp by definition.

The assumption all "pro-choice" people would find this acceptable is BEYOND contempt. I would NEVER find something like this "acceptable" in any way what so ever.


If this is legit, so much for abortion being "safe, legal and rare."


Not exactly a fair or even remotely accurate statement there DtS...

If you honestly believe that statement, then you MUST also believe that a single homicide committed with a hand gun is proof that NO private gun ownership is safe, and must therefore be eliminated.

Please keep in mind, I am NOT "applauding" or even condoning this sick bitch's "art" or "statement" or what ever the hell she wants to call it. I fully agree that what this bitch did was cold, calculated murder and as such she should be waiting her turn in line for that arm spike.

But I don't see how this sick bitch has all of a sudden become the "poster child" that represents ALL "Pro Choice People". The girl I used to date, Lisa, has 2 kids. With the delivery of her second child, she was warned by her doctor that if she became pregnant again, carrying the baby and giving birth would (approximately 90% chance) result in her death and the death of the child.

You can bet your ass, if she and I were still together, and we wound up "expecting", I would not hesitate to do what had to be done to save her life. And I would stand in front of anyone, in these forums, or anywhere, and DARE them to tell me I could NOT consider it.

If you think that makes me "pro-abortion" or a "murdering son of a bitch", so be it. I can live with your scorn, frankly, I've been called worse by far more people that exist in these forums.

But don't for one second fool yourself into believing that because I feel there are times when abortions are necessary and appropriate, and don't for a second convince yourself that because I do not feel I have the RIGHT to make your choices and live your life for you, that I agree with and condone the piece of shit this article was about.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Rhino:
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2281&d=1208446554

:unsmile: That explains the need for artificial insemenation.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Sorry Gonzo, and I truly mean no offense whatsoever, but when it comes to THIS issue, I don't care about "tact." I won't even try to speak for all pro-life people, but I would venture to guess that most pro-lifers would stand by your side when it comes to decisions made out of medical necessity. However, the MAJORITY of the "pro-choice" movement is NOT about protecting legitimate medical decisions between a doctor and patient, but about convenience abortions used for birth control or because someone made a stupid one-night stand decision. The child doesn't deserve the punishment for the sins of the mother/father, and I don't care who's feelings that hurts.

I therefore stand by everything I have said.

Still friends? :flower:

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Yale “miscarriage artist” confesses to hoax? (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/17/yale-miscarriage-artist-confesses-to-hoax/)

Well, who knows. It’s not like anyone’s going to sift through the evidence to make sure.


Yale: Student's Art Project Only 'Creative Fiction' (http://www.nysun.com/news/national/yale-students-art-project-creative-fiction)

A Yale student’s bizarre art project in which she claimed to have repeatedly impregnated and induced abortions in herself is a work of "creative fiction," the university said in a statement this afternoon.

[LivingDeadGirl]

Someone on another board I'm on made an interesting observation.

Some women have rather heavy and "chunky" periods. It could be that this woman had such periods and is only referring to what she did as abortions to draw attention to her art. Regarless what she is saying is repugnant, but she may also be an attention whore that thought this would be a great way to make herself controversial without having to actually do anything other than what nature took care of for her.

[Gonzo67]

However, the MAJORITY of the "pro-choice" movement is NOT about protecting legitimate medical decisions between a doctor and patient, but about convenience abortions used for birth control or because someone made a stupid one-night stand decision.


I would tend to agree with this statement. But It's worth pointing out that the reason behind this is because the ones who parade and protest in the guise of "Pro-Choice" are ignorant twits who are bastardizing the meaning of words and have no business calling themselves "Pro-Choice".

Using the definition of the name, "Pro-Choice" means that I am in favor of allowing YOU to make that choice for yourself. This is what makes me "Pro-Choice". It's the fact that I do NOT make that decision for you. That decision is something that is between you, your spouse, your God and your conscience.

The ones that parade, I consider them "Pro-Abortion". They're the ones that want abortion to be approved for ANY reason. That is not my view, and it should not be the view of ANY person that considerer's themselves legitimately "Pro-Choice".


The child doesn't deserve the punishment for the sins of the mother/father, and I don't care who's feelings that hurts.


Another statement I am 100% in agreement with. As for caring who's feelings it hurts, I do not care either, nor SHOULD you care about hurting someone else's feelings by stating something that you strongly support.

If I worried about the feelings of who I "MIGHT" offend by stating MY opinion and stand on an issue, hell, I'd probably only have 4 posts to my name at most. lol


Still friends?


LOL You should know me by now hon, that was never in danger. :)

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Aliza Shvarts: Abortion Goo Girl Rants Against the "Patriarchal Heteronormative" (http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/abortion_goo_gi.php)

VIDEO UPDATE: Like cockroaches running for the den when the lights go on: Shvarts' advisor Pia Lindman chickens out by removing the You Tube video above originally at Lindman's Soapbox Event. Ah, the courage of our "artists!

Teacher's Pet, Aliza Shvarts, who saved her abortions for art, ( Yale Daily News - For senior, abortion a medium for art, political discourse) rants on about speech at her teacher's performance Soapbox Event. Sample:

"And you know we are conditioned that way, and why are we conditioned that way, and you know... Because we have this huge ****ing institution ... it's these patriarchal heteronormative trappings of a right to speak.... "

Rousing applause for this person. I'm sure her exhibition of her abortions will also be applauded. You can't help wondering what her parents -- who raised her and who no doubt paid for her "education" are thinking.


This girl is a psychopath that's all there is to it.


Gonzo, I was pretty sure you would understand where I'm coming from -- I certainly understood the same about your position. My rant was never specifically targeting anyone here at FC, it was a sheer outrage outburst. http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon11.gif

[PrezLeefun]

I am totally disgusted. I am praying that this was fake and not at real. That girl is....I dont even know what to say. This sickens me.

[Rhino]

:unsmile: That explains the need for artificial insemenation.I was thinking the same thing when I posted it. :rotflmbo:

[DeclinetoState]

Patriarchal Heteronormative? :confused:

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

University calls art project a fiction; Shvarts '08 disputes Yale's claim (http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24528)


According to a statement released by the University today, Aliza Shvarts ’08 was never impregnated. She never miscarried. The sweeping outrage on blogs across the country was apparently for naught.

< snip , snip >

But Shvarts stood by her project, calling the University’s statement “ultimately inaccurate.”

< snip , snip >

But Shvarts reiterated Thursday that she repeatedly use a needleless syringe to insert semen into herself. At the end of her menstrual cycle, she took abortifacient herbs to induce bleeding, she said. She said she does not know whether or not she was ever pregnant.

“No one can say with 100-percent certainty that anything in the piece did or did not happen,” Shvarts said, “because the nature of the piece is that it did not consist of certainties.”

This afternoon, Shvarts showed the News footage from tapes she plans to play at the exhibit. The tapes depict Shvarts — sometimes naked, sometimes clothed — alone in a shower stall bleeding into a cup.

[PrezLeefun]

This person is more like an atrocity. That is disgusting. Just disgusting. All of it. sickening and evil in theory alone, forget about in action.

[LivingDeadGirl]

:banghead:

So in other words, she just had her f-n period!

[MSGT]

Somebody slap her anyway.

[PrezLeefun]

^^^ Slap..... this woman falls under the swift kick in the ass category.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

September 11th Fund Underwrote Crazy Yalie’s “Heteronormative” Rant (http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/18/september-11th-fund-underwrote-crazy-yalies-heteronormative-rant/)

I’m as anxious to be done with Aliza Schvarts and her various outputs as you are. But in the NY Sun’s newest report on the she said/Yale said/she said controversy includes an interesting, and cringeworthy, detail:

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The Federal Hall event was sponsored by the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council with the “generous support of the September 11 Fund,” according to the video.

[DeclinetoState]

WND (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61970):
The university statement is "ultimately inaccurate," she told the paper, which said she told of "repeatedly using a needleless syringe" to insert semen and taking abortifacient herbs to induce bleeding.

"She said she does not know whether or not she was ever pregnant," the newspaper said.

"No one can say with 100 percent certainly that anything in the piece did or did not happen," Shvarts told the newspaper, "because the nature of the piece is that it did not consist of certainties."And how much a year for a Yale "education" was somebody paying?

[EveningStar]

Related thread (believe it or not) (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=58576)