View Full Version : Clinton Wins Pennsylvania Primary
Longhorn_Platinum
04-22-2008, 08:17 PM
:moo: I don't see any other threads about this, so I'll start one. I know a lot of y'all will be unhappy that Empress Wang is still alive, but I'm relieved that the greater threat has just taken a punch in the gut.
CONSERVATIVE HERO
04-22-2008, 09:17 PM
:moo: I don't see any other threads about this, so I'll start one. I know a lot of y'all will be unhappy that Empress Wang is still alive, but I'm relieved that the greater threat has just taken a punch in the gut.
My keeping track of the election has virtually ceased since McCain became the nominee (an outcome which completely strangled any enthusiasm I had).
Who's ahead on the dem side now?
jayson
04-22-2008, 10:10 PM
"Empress Wang" is going to be the nominee. All this Obama infatuation is just a dog and pony show.
TeenageRepublican
04-22-2008, 10:15 PM
Which is why I have faith that John McCain will kick ass in November and become the next president.
Lubbock
04-23-2008, 04:04 AM
Talk about beging between a rock and a hard spot, the Dem Establishment is really in it.
Osamabama can't win in the General in November, but . . . If the party doesn't give him the nomination, his supporters are going to go crazy and turn Denver into a Barnum and Bailey Three Ringer.
She can't win in the General in November, either . . .
PrezLeefun
04-23-2008, 04:19 AM
^^^Dont be so sure Lubbock. I still say pray extremely hard. This is only molehill on the mountain. We still have a while to go and I wouldn't cross Obama off just because Hill got it this time.
Lord give her another one *Prez slaps herself for ever rooting for Hillary*
The_Elucidator
04-23-2008, 06:31 AM
:moo: I don't see any other threads about this, so I'll start one. I know a lot of y'all will be unhappy that Empress Wang is still alive, but I'm relieved that the greater threat has just taken a punch in the gut.
I still disagree with ya LP! IMHO, McCain would clean Obama's clock in a landslide! I know that some view him as a clear and present danger if he gets in the WH, but I still view the Wanger as a bigger danger! And not only that, I just couldn't stomach 8 more years of BJ in front of the cameras and her cackling.
If Rush was really serious about, "operation chaos," he would be "instructing" the ditto heads to vote for Hitlery in Obama states and Obama in Hitlery states! As of late, I have seriously questioned his judgment!! Then again, he is only a radio personality...
Lubbock
04-23-2008, 07:05 AM
She's a far bigger threat than Osamabama --in the White House or out.
Osamabama doesn't stand a change against McCain.
I truly don't believe she stands a change against McCain, either.
Going in, if she gets the nomination, her negatives --through the roof now, will only rise.
Going in, if he gets the nomination, his negatives --negligible now because the voters don't know him, will rise to a level unseen in politics.
The VOTERS do not know Osamabama. The VOTERS. The people who will go to the polls in November and elect a President do not know Osamabama.
When the VOTERS get a good look at him --and at his wife, at their associations with Wright and Ayers, it's over for him. [We haven't even gotten to the God and Guns issue yet.]
As I see it, no Democrat can get elected President without the solid backing of the Roosevelt Jewsish Democrats. Do you honestly believe Jews are going to go to the polls and vote for a man who has the solid backing of Calypso Louie?
Do you honestly believe that anyone other than mesmerized sheep and Race Voters are going to vote for a man who will not eschew Reverend Wright.
I can't wait to see the first campaign ad juxtaposing The Pope asking God to Bless America with Wright screaming from the pulpit, "No, no, no. God Damn America."
B. Hussein Osamabama, President of the United States of America.
Ain't gonna happen, folks.
I also think it's very interesting that in the exit polling, the ONLY group who is SOLIDLY behind Osamabama is PEOPLE WHO NEVER GO TO CHURCH.
Thank about it. That's the only group he won in Pennsylvania.
Rhino
04-23-2008, 08:04 AM
"Empress Wang" is going to be the nominee. All this Obama infatuation is just a dog and pony show.Many of the political analysts (on both sides) don't seem to agree with you.
Nutrider99
04-23-2008, 08:04 AM
If Rush was really serious about, "operation chaos," he would be "instructing" the ditto heads to vote for Hitlery in Obama states and Obama in Hitlery states! As of late, I have seriously questioned his judgment!! Then again, he is only a radio personality...
The remaining primary states all are proportionate regarding delegates, meaning that even if she wins 60% he still gets the remaining 40% added to his total. Short of him dying and her being the only one on the ticket, she is mathematically eliminated. EVERYONE knew she was going to win PA. The only question was how big. Regardless, he is going strong in S.C. Since Michigan and Florida are off the shelf, Obama WILL BE the presumptive nominee.
Enter Operation Chaos. Hitlery has moment, ruthless ambition, files on her enemies and the willingness to kill to get what she wants. Her ONLY chance is to beg/ bribe/ intimidate the superdelegates to support her AGAINST THE WILL of the people. What do you think that will do for her chances in November? Either that or they will have to nominate an unelectable liberal with no experience, bad judgment and no common sense. Both of the democreep candidates are casual liars. Hitlary has the highest negatives of any candidate ever. Yet, she has the only chance of beating the other liberal; McVain.
No matter who wins this election, the American people lose. Guantanemo is going to close. The foreign terrorists will be brought to America, given American civil rights, and summarily freed because they were denied the due process to which they were never entitled. Rising fuel costs will cause a massive recession and none of the candidates have the intelligence to comprehend the simplicity of supply and demand. If the democreeps win, we WILL lose a major American city to terrorism.
I say we let Hinkley out and tell him the three of them gang banged Jodi Foster.
DeclinetoState
04-23-2008, 08:08 AM
The only way Hillary can get the nomination is to cheat, IMHO. However, given that she's a Clinton, that's not an insurmountable obstacle.
Wyatt_Junker
04-23-2008, 10:07 AM
I think what put her over the top in Penn. was her appearnce on the Letterman Show the night before where she demonstrated her patriotism by placing a mic on her lap while queefing The Star Spangled Banner. This was followed up by several well timed garlic hummus farts to I'm A Yankee Doodle Dandy.
The Mennonites dug that shit real hard.
Lubbock
04-23-2008, 10:55 AM
Editorial
</NYT_KICKER>
<NYT_HEADLINE version="1.0" type=" ">The Low Road to Victory
<NYT_BYLINE version="1.0" type=" "></NYT_BYLINE>
Published: April 23, 2008
<NYT_TEXT>The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.
The rest: (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?ex=1366603200&en=25460e9924d12741&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink)
DEMOCRAT'S CHICKENS COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!
NowhereMan
04-23-2008, 11:14 AM
Hillary won PA (as everyone and their dog knew she would, she's got an entrenched base in the state) but the margin was small enough that she has to win remaining states by an even larger majority to draw even. If she wins all the other states by at least 30 points she'll be close to tied with Obama for delegates, if Obama manages to do that he'll be close to having enough delegates to win outright.
Neither candidate is going to do that well though, I think by the time of the convention Obama will have won a few more delegates than Clinton (without counting MI and FL). Clinton will be losing even if they count FL and frankly I don't think anyone in their right mind could argue to count the MI results as is. Barring any massive upsets I'd guess Obama's going to be appointed Dem nominee at the convention. Frankly I think he's got a better chance of beating McCain than Hillary simply because, presuming she doesn't try and utterly polarise her base against him, most of Hillary's base are going to be voting Dem whoever is the candidate while Obama's drawing a lot of younger voters who are voting for him personally.
Kathy30
04-23-2008, 11:48 AM
Hiliary's base won't be voting for the obaminaiton. McCain is just liberal enough to make them feel like they're voting liberal anyway.
A funny thing happened on the way to the vote. Young voters like to register, they just don't like to vote. Registration drives are fun, lots of people, usually music. It's a great get together, just ask MTV. But when it comes time to vote, they got better things to do.
The carefully crafted facade of the obamination is starting to crumble. Without a prepared speech filled with substanceless platitudes he is being exposed as just an arrogant empty suit. He is alienating the press who will viciously turn on him. He doesn't want to be questioned, he won't be challenged. He demands total and complete acceptance without looking beyond what he exposes.
The democratic leadership isn't looking at the primaries but what the breakdown of voters means to the general election and it doesn't look real good for the democrats. The majority of Hiliary supporters are white women. They don't like the obamination. He doesn't appear to like women especially white women. The vote in PA for democrats now, just democrats, no independents, no decline to states, just democrats broke largely along racial lines with the obamination getting the black and ultra liberal white vote. The obamination cannot win without blue collar whites, which means he cannot win. His message of more taxes and more welfare isn't going over with them.
Neil Peart
04-23-2008, 11:57 AM
no decline to statesOf course not. He lives in California.
Longhorn_Platinum
04-23-2008, 11:58 AM
Lubbock:
I can't wait to see the first campaign ad juxtaposing The Pope asking God to Bless America with Wright screaming from the pulpit, "No, no, no. God Damn America."
:moo: If anyone asks me if I plan to vote for...
:fart2: ...Baaarrraaaccckkk!!!,...
:moo: ...Who's Insane, O[s]ama, I plan to reply, "Naw, naw, naw! Not God bless America, God BOOOOP!! America".
:biggrin: I'm quite good at making that "boop" sound.
Longhorn_Platinum
04-23-2008, 12:00 PM
The_Elucidator:
I still disagree with ya LP!
:moo: Yeah, well, it's really six of one or a half-dozen of the other. If either one wins the White House, we'll regret that we didn't root for the other to win the nomination.
BuckeyeMike
04-23-2008, 12:09 PM
Talk about beging between a rock and a hard spot, the Dem Establishment is really in it.
Hell Lub, I think we're all between a rock and a hard spot. Both partys are serving lunch.....and it's a shit buffet!
Osamabama can't win in the General in November, but . . . If the party doesn't give him the nomination, his supporters are going to go crazy and turn Denver into a Barnum and Bailey Three Ringer.
Good....show the rest of the world what racist assholes they are!
She can't win in the General in November, either . . ..
Rhino
04-23-2008, 12:24 PM
If she wins all the other states by at least 30 points she'll be close to tied with Obama for delegates....North Carolina
Obama +15.5 (115 delegates)
Indiana
Clinton +2.2 (72 delegates)
West Virginia
Clinton +15 (28 delegates)
Oregon
Obama +10 (52 delegates)
Kentucky
Clinton +36 (51 delegates)
Puerto Rico
Clinton +13 (55 delegates)
Montana
No data
Guam
No data
South Dakota
Obama +12 (15 delegates)
Maggie_T
04-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Which is why I have faith that John McCain will kick ass in November and become the next president.
*S N O R T*
You mean like he "kicked" Teddy Kennedy's fat ass for his idiotic notions on illegal immigration? :rolleyes:
McCain doesn't have the, ah, "boots" to kick democrat ass. Like HUSSEIN Obama, he's too enamoured of his role as a "unifier," eager to be "bi-partisan" to kick his opponent's ass. Not to mention that he is too much of a democrat himself. Which is why I don't trust him.
My only hope is that McCain's lust for power is as big as that of his opponents (Hillar's OR Obama's). That would be the only thing that would give him the, ahem, "guts" to be "mean-spirited" like all good conservatives are. :evilgrin:
I can smell a McCain-Hillary/Obama ticket somewhere.
Naturalized-Texan
04-23-2008, 02:07 PM
If you include Florida and Michigan, Hillary has a small majority of the popular vote.
Rhino
04-23-2008, 02:38 PM
If you include Florida and Michigan, Hillary has a small majority of the popular vote.Or, more accurately, a small minority of the unpopular vote. :lol:
NowhereMan
04-23-2008, 03:05 PM
If you include Florida and Michigan, Hillary has a small majority of the popular vote.
Florida I can see a case for, it was an election pretty much based on name recognition but all the candidates had a fairly equal run at it. I don't see how you can justify including Michigan though since Clinton was the only candidate who actually had her name on the ballot.
Kathy: One of the unusual things about Obama's campaign hasn't been registering so many young voters but actually getting them to vote, say what you like about his views, he's doing something neither party has managed very successfully since Reagan.
Kathy30
04-23-2008, 03:11 PM
Democrats may yet convince one of them to be second banana to the other. Although if they do badly in any poll, you know they'll be blaming one another.
NowhereMan
04-23-2008, 03:17 PM
Nah, I don't see either being VP. Clinton's more or less been there before and Obama would frankly be mad to accept it. With Bill there as well, Hillary's VP is going to be the single most neutered figure in the White House for a while.
Naturalized-Texan
04-23-2008, 03:42 PM
Florida I can see a case for, it was an election pretty much based on name recognition but all the candidates had a fairly equal run at it. I don't see how you can justify including Michigan though since Clinton was the only candidate who actually had her name on the ballot.
Even without Michigan, Hillary has a small majority of the popular vote. My source was an interview by Sean Hannity of Newt Gingrich I heard on the radio this afternoon. Newt allocated the votes in MI for an uncommitted slate of delegates to B. Hussein Obama.
RogerFGay
04-23-2008, 04:08 PM
:moo: I don't see any other threads about this, so I'll start one. I know a lot of y'all will be unhappy that Empress Wang is still alive, but I'm relieved that the greater threat has just taken a punch in the gut.
You do realize that's a load a hoowee don't ya? It was a bad idea to join the Clinton campaign with the idea that it would make it worse for Democrats. Hillary should in no way have been offered any shot to stay in and possibly win the nomination. Besides, she would be screaming more loudly and making it all very much uglier if she was farther behind. It was much better all around back when the panic was showing. Now she's trying to be graceful as almost a front runner.
Longhorn_Platinum
04-23-2008, 07:35 PM
RogerFGay:
It was a bad idea to join the Clinton campaign with the idea that it would make it worse for Democrats.
:shame: In spite of the history of the Clintons, I believe that...
:fart2: ...Baaarrraaaccckkk!!!,...
:shame: ...Who's Insane, O[s]ama would be far worse. If I had to have one or the other only a few electoral votes away from occupying the White House, I'd rather it be her than him. O[s]ama's just downright scary.
dPrasse
04-23-2008, 10:47 PM
Talk about beging between a rock and a hard spot, the Dem Establishment is really in it.
Osamabama can't win in the General in November, but . . . If the party doesn't give him the nomination, his supporters are going to go crazy and turn Denver into a Barnum and Bailey Three Ringer.
She can't win in the General in November, either . . .
the whole idea behind "Operation Chaos " ....
Really too bad the Repubs have a RINO ....
we'd have a 50 state sweep :punish: that would be so bad the Dems would wish they had a Mondale/Dukakis ticket to improve their chances of winning Minnesota ....
DeclinetoState
04-24-2008, 07:21 AM
The next phase of "Operation Chaos" will be to get McCain to pick a suitable running mate (say, a Fred Thompson or Tom Tancredo), then drop out of the race for legitimate personal reasons.
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