Thompson Won't Consider VP Position

[TeenageRepublican]

Former Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson said he would turn down an offer to run for vice president on John McCain’s ticket.
“That’s not in the cards,” the former senator said during on interview on Fox’s “Hannity and Colmes” on Thursday.
“That’s not what I want. And I don’t think that call [from McCain] would ever happen. I think John needs somebody else.”
Thompson also said: “The presidency is the only job in town that’s worth going through what you got to go through to get it, including the vice presidency…
“I’m interested in absolutely nothing else other than doing what I can to help those who are trying to help this country, and be a good citizen and do those things that I can do now in the private sector to help these kids and grandchildren.
“But that does not involve, you know, going to state funerals in faraway places.


http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/F...mo_code=49FF-1 (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Fred_Thompson_VPl_/2008/04/25/90935.html?s=al&promo_code=49FF-1)

Well, it's official, we're screwed...

[EveningStar]

This story may be true even though it's from NewsHacks.

I think Fred was pushed onto the presidential stage. I think he's glad he didn't get the nomination.

[The_Elucidator]

If McCain were to go 2 terms, FDT would be 76 when running for office in 2016. For him it was POTUS or bust.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Fred was pushed all right, pushed right over a cliff, by stupid Republicans willing to sacrifice this country for a RINO. He was, by far, the BEST candidate in the primary race, and yet, too many instead backed liberal Republicans to the point of cutting their own noses off to spite their face. NOW look what we're stuck with -- and I'm just supposed to grin and bear it, voting the lesser of two evils? In the immortal words of Al Borland, "I don't think so, Tim."

[PrezLeefun]

Homes Fred didnt try. Had he worked at it and made himself a force he would have gotten the nomination. This is his own fault for not establishing himself with voters.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Okay, whatever gets you through the night, Prez. :rolleyes:

[PrezLeefun]

I get through the nights just fine with or without news on FDT. He was first and second in polls before he offically began his campaign. Had he kept that steam he would be our nominee. But he didnt. Tons of people interpreted him as being disintrested and unenthusiastic. Thats his fault... not the voting public's fault.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Whatever

[PrezLeefun]

Yes Homes.... 'whatever' gets you through the night.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Yes Homes.... 'whatever' gets you through the night.


"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion." ~~ Thomas Jefferson

:biggrin:

[Plain Old Dave]

Meh.

Best candidate= anti-life campaign finance reformer? Hardly.

[PrezLeefun]

"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion." ~~ Thomas Jefferson

:biggrin:

I agree with TJ. Except when I am PMSing. I tolerate nothing then:lol:.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Meh.

:roar: Best candidate= anti-life campaign finance reformer? Hardly.

............

[Neil Peart]

Meh.

Best candidate= anti-life campaign finance reformer? Hardly.In the field we got this year, most definitely.

And how is he anti-life? Just because he wants it left to the states doesn't make him anti-life.

[The_Elucidator]

The old fart is guilty of many things, but being pro-choice ain't one of them. Let's not add more to his crapy resume than is already there. His pro-life voting record is the ONLY reason I am voting FOR him. And don't drag out one tired quote from 30 years ago to prove a point.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

The old fart is guilty of many things, but being pro-choice ain't one of them. Let's not add more to his crapy resume than is already there. His pro-life voting record is the ONLY reason I am voting FOR him. And don't drag out one tired quote from 30 years ago to prove a point.


Brudder,
You talkin' about Thompson? or McCain? I believe POD was referring to MY comments regarding FDT ... I could be mistaken, though ... I thought I was mistaken once, .... but I was mistaken, :biggrin:

[PrezLeefun]

^^McCain....I think....I thought.....oh poo I dont know anymore. This election has screwed with my brains.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

This election has screwed with my brains.

Now THERE'S something we BOTH can agree on, :lol: (I was talkin' about my brains too, :smirk:)

[PrezLeefun]

^^Yes indeed. For every single thing we dont agree on there are about five things on which we do.

[The_Elucidator]

Brudder,
You talkin' about Thompson? or McCain? I believe POD was referring to MY comments regarding FDT ... I could be mistaken, though ... I thought I was mistaken once, .... but I was mistaken, :biggrin:

Talkin' bout McCain, Sis. I believe that is the one thing that both candidates have in common is their pro-life view. :evilgrin:

[Plain Old Dave]

In the field we got this year, most definitely.

And how is he anti-life? Just because he wants it left to the states doesn't make him anti-life.


I wonder what part of "no state shall deny any person life, liberty or property without due process of law" is so difficult to understand. There is no discernable difference between pro-choice and "let the states decide".

[Neil Peart]

I wonder what part of "no state shall deny any person life, liberty or property without due process of law" is so difficult to understand. There is no discernable difference between pro-choice and "let the states decide".That's a nice sentiment, but you've got to understand that we will never get abortion banned at the federal level anytime soon. What we need to do is get it decided by the states.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I wonder what part of "no state shall deny any person life, liberty or property without due process of law" is so difficult to understand. There is no discernable difference between pro-choice and "let the states decide".

Tell that to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

"I'm a law-and-order guy. I mean, I confess I'm a social conservative, but it does not affect my views on cases," Scalia says. "On the abortion thing for example, if indeed I were, you know, trying to impose my own views, I would not only be opposed to Roe versus Wade, I would be in favor of the opposite view, which the anti-abortion people would like adopted, which is to interpret the Constitution to mean that a state must prohibit abortion."

Scalia says he's against that.

"It's just not in the Constitution," Stahl asks.

"There's nothing there," he says. "They did not write about that."

"It has nothing to do with how I decide cases," Scalia replies. "My job is to interpret the Constitution accurately. And indeed, there are anti-abortion people who think that the constitution requires a state to prohibit abortion. They say that the Equal Protection Clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong. I think when the Constitution says that persons are entitled to equal protection of the laws, I think it clearly means walking-around persons. You don't count pregnant women twice."

( Taken from the transcript of Justice Scalia's recent 60 Minutes interview (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/24/60minutes/main4040290_page2.shtml). )


So, I guess Justice Scalia is pro-choice too according to you, eh POD?

[Lazarus]

I really never expected Fred to re-emerge in this race... In fact I don't expect to see him surface on the political stage at all after this campaign... I can understand why he doesn't think much of the VP slot...

I wouldn't mind seeing him re-enter the Senate, though...

[DeclinetoState]

As much as I liked Fred, I don't think he had the fire in his belly. This decision not to seek or accept the VP nomination disappoints but does not surprise me.

[EveningStar]

I get through the nights just fine with or without news on FDT. He was first and second in polls before he offically began his campaign. Had he kept that steam he would be our nominee. But he didnt. Tons of people interpreted him as being disintrested and unenthusiastic. Thats his fault... not the voting public's fault.

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/luc/2008/luc080122.gif

[EveningStar]

As much as I liked Fred, I don't think he had the fire in his belly. This decision not to seek or accept the VP nomination disappoints but does not surprise me.
Fred was the Perry Como of the presidential candidates. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHjXio9ywiA)

[Maggie_T]

Fred was pushed all right, pushed right over a cliff, by stupid Republicans willing to sacrifice this country for a RINO. He was, by far, the BEST candidate in the primary race, and yet, too many instead backed liberal Republicans to the point of cutting their own noses off to spite their face. NOW look what we're stuck with -- and I'm just supposed to grin and bear it, voting the lesser of two evils? In the immortal words of Al Borland, "I don't think so, Tim."



That's my girl. :claps:

[BuckeyeMike]

Hell, would you want to be on the same ticket as John effen McCain?

[DeclinetoState]

No, I wouldn't want to be on the ticket with John F. McCain. There are only two places I'd want to be less:

On the ticket with Barack Hussein Obama.
On the ticket with Hillary Rodham Clinton. (And if I were at the top of the ticket, I sure as hell wouldn't want her at No. 2.)

[TeenageRepublican]

I supported Fred Thompson because of his spotless record on the three most important issues to me: War on Terror, Guns, and Abortion. I had no problems supporting him.
It's hard to imagine a small "l" libertarian Republican like me supporting a conservative, but it's true. I like both conservatives and libertarians. It just depends on the person's record and beliefs for me.

[EveningStar]

Fred was pushed all right, pushed right over a cliff, by stupid Republicans willing to sacrifice this country for a RINO. He was, by far, the BEST candidate in the primary race, and yet, too many instead backed liberal Republicans to the point of cutting their own noses off to spite their face. NOW look what we're stuck with -- and I'm just supposed to grin and bear it, voting the lesser of two evils? In the immortal words of Al Borland, "I don't think so, Tim."
There were a lot of conservatives voting in those primaries and caucuses. Fred simply failed to impress. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#Primar ies_and_caucuses)

Thompson competed in the Republican primary or caucus in five states. He won 13% of the vote in the Iowa Republican caucuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Republican_caucuses%2C_2008), trailing Mike Huckabee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Huckabee) (34%) and Mitt Romney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney) (25%). John McCain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain) also got 13%, but Thompson got more actual votes.<sup id="cite_ref-32" class="reference">[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-32)</sup> Thompson won 3 of the 12 delegates in the Wyoming Republican County Conventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_Republican_County_Conventions%2C_2008) on January 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_5), 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008).<sup id="cite_ref-33" class="reference">[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-33)</sup> On January 15, 2008, Thompson placed 5th in the Michigan Republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Republican_primary%2C_2008) primary with 4% of the vote, winning no delegates.<sup id="cite_ref-34" class="reference">[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-34)</sup> He received 8% of the vote in the Nevada Caucuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Republican_caucuses%2C_2008), placing 5th, on January 19, 2008. He did not win any delegates.<sup id="cite_ref-35" class="reference">[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-35)</sup>
On January 19, 2008, Thompson placed 3rd in the South Carolina primary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Republican_primary%2C_2008) with 16% of the vote, earning no delegates.<sup id="cite_ref-36" class="reference">[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-36)</sup> Thompson was counting on a win in the southern conservative state to save his struggling campaign, and his poor showing was seen as a fatal blow to his candidacy.<sup id="cite_ref-37" class="reference">[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-37)</sup><sup id="cite_ref-38" class="reference">[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-38)</sup><sup id="cite_ref-39" class="reference">[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-39)</sup><sup id="cite_ref-40" class="reference">[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#cite_n ote-40)</sup>

[Timberwolf]

ES...how COULD he "impress" us? The farkin' DriveByMedia IGNORED his candidacy/campaign!! They were too damned busy fawning over Rudy McRomney and the Huckster.

Had the DriveBys paid HALF as much attention to FDT as they did to the liberals running for the nomination, he'd have had it sewn up about 3 months ago.

Funny thing...the selective memory of some....

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

ES...how COULD he "impress" us? The farkin' DriveByMedia IGNORED his candidacy/campaign!! They were too damned busy fawning over Rudy McRomney and the Huckster.

Had the DriveBys paid HALF as much attention to FDT as they did to the liberals running for the nomination, he'd have had it sewn up about 3 months ago.

Funny thing...the selective memory of some....

THANK YOU, Timber! :claps:

[Kathy30]

I supported Fred Thompson but it was clear that the presidency wasn't something he wanted enough to work for. He had a huge amount of momentum before he declared his candidacy, and waited, and waited and waited. Finally that momentum fizzled out. He wasn't at all comfortable with meeting people. His campaign was decidedly lacklustre. There was a second chance during the debates but it wasn't until his very last appearance that he emerged as the kind of man who should be president but by then it was all over. No one would put him in a VP slot because of the way he ran his original campaign.

[EveningStar]

ES...how COULD he "impress" us? The farkin' DriveByMedia IGNORED his candidacy/campaign!! They were too damned busy fawning over Rudy McRomney and the Huckster.

Had the DriveBys paid HALF as much attention to FDT as they did to the liberals running for the nomination, he'd have had it sewn up about 3 months ago.

Funny thing...the selective memory of some....
I thought conservatives were smart enough to ignore the "DriveByMedia." Are you saying they're not?

[EveningStar]

I supported Fred Thompson but it was clear that the presidency wasn't something he wanted enough to work for. He had a huge amount of momentum before he declared his candidacy, and waited, and waited and waited. Finally that momentum fizzled out. He wasn't at all comfortable with meeting people. His campaign was decidedly lacklustre. There was a second chance during the debates but it wasn't until his very last appearance that he emerged as the kind of man who should be president but by then it was all over. No one would put him in a VP slot because of the way he ran his original campaign.
He was probably torn. On the one hand, he really didn't aspire to the presidency. On the other hand, being president was a once in a lifetime opportunity.

[Maggie_T]

ES, you can't group ALL conservatives under the same blanket. Not all of them are smart.

Yes, some conservatives were actually "put off" by Fred's perceived "lack of fire." And they would never have thought of it if the media - not to mention the RINOs who soiled their underwear at the thought of having a (gasp!) genuine conservative running for office (liberals would be offended!) - had not hammered on that point morning, noon, and night.

[Elgalad]

I supported Fred Thompson but it was clear that the presidency wasn't something he wanted enough to work for. He had a huge amount of momentum before he declared his candidacy, and waited, and waited and waited. Finally that momentum fizzled out. He wasn't at all comfortable with meeting people. His campaign was decidedly lacklustre. There was a second chance during the debates but it wasn't until his very last appearance that he emerged as the kind of man who should be president but by then it was all over. No one would put him in a VP slot because of the way he ran his original campaign.

Where have I heard this expressed before? :question:

Oh that's right. EVERY SINGLE FREAKING NIGHT on the cable news channels from the moment teh Fred announced his candidacy until he finally withdrew from the race. By so-called "Conservative" pundits. During the 3 minutes a day that they actually paid him attention in between marathon sessions of fawning shamelessly over RINO McRomney and Shucksterbee.

I'm sorry Kathy, but that there is some Oooooooold kool-aid.

Do yourself a favor and set down the glass. :shame:


-Elgalad

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

El, definitely worthy of your POM award, my friend, :smirk: :thumb:

[Kathy30]

Perhaps it's a case of different people observing the same event and thereafter coming to the same conclusion.

Thompson's worst failing was that he waited too long. He delayed and delayed perhaps thinking he was building excitement when in the end they got bored. Sorry, I liked him. I would have voted for him. I saw the video on his website and was impressed. Over and over Thompson had me tearing my hair out as "What is he DOING? became What the F is he DOING?" Then that last debate, Fred Thompson came exploding through being everything I thought he was, and by then it was too late.

Sorry if I'm not the only one who saw it. I guess all those kool-aid drinkers out there agreed with me.

[Elgalad]

No, I hear you Kathy and I didn't mean it in any way personally..

It's just that from my perspective, the entire affair was a self-fulfilled prophecy. And the worst irony of it was that it even appeared that way from the very beginning. :rolleyes:

I had the incredible good fortune to meet Fred at the Iowa State Fair last August, and he had the crowd (huge sized) in the palm of his hand. It was by far the biggest event at the Fair that week.

The local news that very night (in Des Moines) had a reporter interviewing some folks in a dinky little town noone even remembers the name of, about how they much liked Huckabee because 'he was the only real conservative in the race'. They Completely ignored the Iowa State Fair speech and event.

One example of a pattern of behavior that lasted from September through January. Every time Fred would win a debate (and tell me he did not win several) it was downplayed afterwards. There were always far more 'interesting' distractions to focus on during the race. Like Ron Paul's insanity. Or Romney's Mormonism. Or Huckabee's guitar playing. Etc.

The actual positions and policies were probably just too Boring and Tired and didn't have enough fire in their bellies for media time.

But what was the real explanation? Was Fred really that soporific.. or did the media just ensure that he would appear to be? I very much wish that I could show you the Dynamic and Motivated candidate that I saw, but I will affirm absolutely and without one shred of doubt that he was:

A) Not lazy.
B) Not tired.
C) Very interested indeed, in becoming the President of the United States.
D) A Conservative.
E) Therefore a threat to the establishment.

Speculation is about as useful as a 3 dollar bill, but I will opine here that the DBM Did see that exact same Fred that I did. And that is why (after changing their Depends for a fresh set) they chose to pull out all the stops to prevent him from winning the nomination.

Since I commented on the Kool-Aid, you're welcome to chide me in return to lay off the sour grapes. :smirky:

But ask yourself this.. when was the last time you recall the DBM Ever giving fair treatment to a real Conservative? Do you honestly believe that this time, finally, they 'got the story right'?

I, sure as hell, do not. :unsmile:


-Elgalad

[Timberwolf]

Hear, hear, El...well said. Well said, INDEED!! That is exactly the way I saw everything playing out, concerning Fred.

And he didn't get into the race too late, Kathy...everyone else got into the race about 6-8 months early. Fred entered about the time every other campaign in modern history had started. That was ALSO a construct of the DBM.

[PrezLeefun]

Perhaps it's a case of different people observing the same event and thereafter coming to the same conclusion.

Thompson's worst failing was that he waited too long. He delayed and delayed perhaps thinking he was building excitement when in the end they got bored. Sorry, I liked him. I would have voted for him. I saw the video on his website and was impressed. Over and over Thompson had me tearing my hair out as "What is he DOING? became What the F is he DOING?" Then that last debate, Fred Thompson came exploding through being everything I thought he was, and by then it was too late.

Sorry if I'm not the only one who saw it. I guess all those kool-aid drinkers out there agreed with me.

Well pass the kool aid hon. Thats how I felt 80% of the time.

[dPrasse]

By so-called "Conservative" pundits. During the 3 minutes a day that they actually paid him attention in between marathon sessions of fawning shamelessly over RINO McRomney and Shucksterbee.
-Elgalad

Well , the RINO Establishment surely would not want another "Reagan-style " Conservative to be seen in a positive light ...

it has taken them 20 yrs to purge the party and to get the "Gun-Toting , Bible- Thumping Vast Ring Wing Conspiracy " hicks back in "their place" .. minority status in the party , begging for scraps ...

[Kathy30]

Hear, hear, El...well said. Well said, INDEED!! That is exactly the way I saw everything playing out, concerning Fred.

And he didn't get into the race too late, Kathy...everyone else got into the race about 6-8 months early. Fred entered about the time every other campaign in modern history had started. That was ALSO a construct of the DBM.

I expect better from you. If everyone got into the race 6-8 months early, that's when it started. It's no excuse especially when people were begging him to get into campaigning. It's only an excuse if he had no possible idea that the campaign had started early.

[Lazarus]

...But what was the real explanation? Was Fred really that soporific.. or did the media just ensure that he would appear to be? I very much wish that I could show you the Dynamic and Motivated candidate that I saw, but I will affirm absolutely and without one shred of doubt that he was:

A) Not lazy.
B) Not tired.
C) Very interested indeed, in becoming the President of the United States.
D) A Conservative.
E) Therefore a threat to the establishment....Worth Repeating!

Fred Thompson, like Tancredo, like Hunter, was frozen out of the race by the leftist media... We all watched it happen right before our eyes and at the time everyone commented on it... And now, 6 months later, some of my friends here seem to have forgotten what they observed with their own eyes...

[Lazarus]

Well , the RINO Establishment surely would not want another "Reagan-style " Conservative to be seen in a positive light ...

it has taken them 20 yrs to purge the party and to get the "Gun-Toting , Bible- Thumping Vast Ring Wing Conspiracy " hicks back in "their place" .. minority status in the party , begging for scraps ...My bro, Dave, speaks the truth...

As does Timberwolf... Fred did not enter the race late... He entered the race at precisely the right time... It wasn't timing that froze out Tancredo or Hunter - both of whom got in the race early, both of whom were solid Reagan conservatives, and both whom were frozen out of the process by the media and the RINOs just like Fred was...

[The_Elucidator]

Make no mistake about it, FDT entered the race late!! Eight years too late!!!

[Timberwolf]

I expect better from you. If everyone got into the race 6-8 months early, that's when it started. It's no excuse especially when people were begging him to get into campaigning. It's only an excuse if he had no possible idea that the campaign had started early.
Not so fast, Kathy...think about the precedent being set by the campaigns getting started that much earlier than usual. Don't know about anyone else, but the campaign season is LONG ENOUGH without the farkin' pusbuckets of the left going to town in May rather than wait until September.

Fred was being rational by waiting to enter the race...I'm surprised it didn't play better...

btw - whaddyawant? Campaigning for 2012 as soon as the inauguration is over in January next year? How about we just start the 2012 campaigns the day after election day? I truly believe the democreeps were/are attempting to instill SUCH apathy in the voting public that they majority of voters just stay home...that way (most of the time), THEY win.

[Lazarus]

I think one reason Fred didnt meet with more success was that he didnt have the organization he needed... Of course I have no hard facts on this - its just a feeling... His campaign seemed to have come on board with not enough funds and no strong leadership in the ranks... Couple that with the very real and obious efforts on the part of the Leftist media, RINOs, and so-called conservative talking heads who, for some reason, felt compelled to ridicule Fred and destroy him early, and even Fred couldn't hold out - despite the true grass roots support among conservatives...

What disappointed me the most about Fred was that everyone I talked to here in Alabama was firmly behind Fred and ready to give him their votes, and he pulled out of the race before Super Tuesday - That is a decision I simply cannot understand, and it adds to my belief that he had a fragmented organization giving him bad advice...

I think in the end analysis, Conservatives were disorganized and disjointed coming into this election... We needed one strong candidate for all conservatives to rally behind... And even then we have to fight against RINOs who hate us and wish we'd just go away (but come running with our votes when called), and a media who will from now own do their best to freeze out any Conservative candidate...

Make no mistake about it, FDT entered the race late!! Eight years too late!!!Well there is some truth in that for sure...

[Kathy30]

I have no idea how true it was, but it was said that Thompson basically had a hands off approach to his campaign and left it to his wife to run and that's where the problems with the campaign started.

Tancredo was perceived as a one-issue candidate. Hunter was just too unknown. As a senator that's one thing as a congressman from Podunk it's another. Congressmen don't get elected to much. You can say the media all you want but I saw Thompson in the debates and heard his speeches, he appeared quite distant until the last one. And, I was for him. If he was running today I'd vote for him. I thought it was terrible that he dropped out the moment he seemed to hit his stride. Maybe that's why he dropped out. After that last debate appearance, it seemed that a lot was ignited including media interest. Yet it was after that he dropped out. Why?

[Lazarus]

Yeah his exit from the race was too odd - One week before Super Tuesday (as I recall)... Why? It makes no sense... If Super Tuesday had shown an abyssmal level of support, then I would agree it was time to throw in the towel... But Super Tuesday contained so many states who were heavily populated with Fredheads - It makes no sense to me why he would drop out just as we were preparing to give him our votes...

We can speculate forever on this but we'll never really know why...

[Timberwolf]

THANK YOU, Timber! :claps:
Your welcome, m'Lady...

[TeenageRepublican]

Fred Thompson's a great right-winger and I admired him even more when he dropped out to help his mother. That shows incredible character. I frankly don't care if whether or not he had a chance, I'm just amazed that the Republican party didn't embrace him.

[sunsettommy]

Fred was pushed all right, pushed right over a cliff, by stupid Republicans willing to sacrifice this country for a RINO. He was, by far, the BEST candidate in the primary race, and yet, too many instead backed liberal Republicans to the point of cutting their own noses off to spite their face. NOW look what we're stuck with -- and I'm just supposed to grin and bear it, voting the lesser of two evils? In the immortal words of Al Borland, "I don't think so, Tim."

They wanted someone slower and less credible.That way the differences between the stupid Republicans and McCain are small.

:smirky:

Prez writes:


Homes Fred didnt try. Had he worked at it and made himself a force he would have gotten the nomination. This is his own fault for not establishing himself with voters.

Pure Codswallop!

He was actually the very best candidtate there was because what he stood for was very clear.Not only that.He made several specific proposals in the attempt to tackle Social Security and Medical care problems.

The others did no such thing at the time.I consider that indicative of trying to make something happen in the effort to tackling the problems.

He had a website with all his stuff in it.It was real easy to know what he stands for.Just by looking into his website.Come on!,this is the Internet age.

It is the voters fault for not taking a good look at the man.There is no excuse for not knowing who he is and what he wanted to do.

Voters these days are voting for mediocrity.They elected democrats into the current majority.The same bunch who says NO... No .. nononono to expanding energy supplies.For over 20 years we get this crap about the oil drilling and nuclear waste.

The voters these days are now whining more and more about the rising cost of gasoline and food prices.Courtesy of lousy voting decisions.Voting in those liberal jerks into office over the years.

Well you dingbats can shove it!

Now Fred is gone and so is my voting desire.

[sunsettommy]

Yeah his exit from the race was too odd - One week before Super Tuesday (as I recall)... Why? It makes no sense... If Super Tuesday had shown an abyssmal level of support, then I would agree it was time to throw in the towel... But Super Tuesday contained so many states who were heavily populated with Fredheads - It makes no sense to me why he would drop out just as we were preparing to give him our votes...

We can speculate forever on this but we'll never really know why...

He left because he was not going anywhere in the voting process.He was obviously not going to win.Plus so many idiotically called him lazy,unmotivated and Zzzz...................

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Move over on the couch, tommy, I wanna sit down. I'll bring the popcorn, :biggrin:

:popcorn:

[sunsettommy]

Make no mistake about it, FDT entered the race late!! Eight years too late!!!

Huh,did I miss something?

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[sunsettommy]

Lazarus neatly writes:


As does Timberwolf... Fred did not enter the race late... He entered the race at precisely the right time... It wasn't timing that froze out Tancredo or Hunter - both of whom got in the race early, both of whom were solid Reagan conservatives, and both whom were frozen out of the process by the media and the RINOs just like Fred was...


Tancredo and Hunter started a lot earlier and still they dropped out.Not all that long after Fred either.All three were more of the solid republicans blood than that meathead McCain.Who is all over the map politically.

So starting early or late is irrelevant.They all ended up on the sidelines.The best ones goes out first.Thompson,Tancredo and then Hunter.

The more liberal a republican.The longer they stayed in the running.John McCain the worst of the lot is :rotflmbo: the republicans choice.If it was Cruella running.She would get the nod.That is how bad the party is these days.

Is it any wonder why I will stay home in november eating Lumpia and oatmeal cookiecakes? It is after all much better tasting than Rhinomeat. :D

[sunsettommy]

Lazarus writes:

I think in the end analysis, Conservatives were disorganized and disjointed coming into this election... We needed one strong candidate for all conservatives to rally behind... And even then we have to fight against RINOs who hate us and wish we'd just go away (but come running with our votes when called), and a media who will from now own do their best to freeze out any Conservative candidate...

I thought Fred Thompson failed because the voters are not interested in principles.Just lie to me the best and I will vote for you.That is why we have the unholy trinity left standing.

Gawd what a pathetic choice for a once mighty nation that used to be the shining beacon for the world.

France is now 80% Nuclear power generation and we dither over a few thousand pounds of waste.

China builds new coal power plants by the week.We dither over future Nuclear plant construction.

Brazil,China (right off the Cuban coastline) and Argentina are drilling for oil.We don't because so many brain dead voters chose liberals.Who says NO! to oil drilling anywhere.Who says NO! to Nuclear Power.But golly says YES! lets regulate CO2 and idiotically stating it is a pollutant (yeah riiiiight while all the the planet is packed with it).

This cartoon says it all:

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/20080414RZ1AP-Energy.jpg

A once mighty nation that was going places is now second fiddle.

B E C A U S E they refuse to vote for real men.Who wants to empower the voters with freedom to decide.

[TeenageRepublican]

I don't know why, but I get the oddest feeling that I'm starting to develop a nasty habit of making to-be Flame Wars threads.