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Suzie
05-08-2008, 06:41 PM
Military Upset Over Stephen King Comments

Web Editor: John Blunda (john.blunda@wcsh6.com), Associate Producer
Created: 5/7/2008 11:33:12 AM
Updated: 5/7/2008 3:54:05 PM

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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> WASHINGTON, DC (NEWS CENTER) - A recent comment by Stephen King during a lecture to high school seniors, suggesting that those who can't read can join the Army, has riled up the military.
MORE HERE (http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=86524)

Why doesn't he go try and write that freaky crap he writes in some country that doesn't have a military like ours keeping them free. They would execute him for being the devil.

Loser.

Wolfcounsel
05-08-2008, 06:55 PM
Yes. I don't think he has the testicles to write his crap in a country like Saudi Arabia, or North Korea.

Suzie
05-08-2008, 07:02 PM
A good video on the subject.

http://www.wusa9.com/video/player.aspx?aid=59911&sid=71417&bw=

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-08-2008, 07:29 PM
Stephen King fires back after blogger attacks remarks (http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=164000&zoneid=500)

BANGOR, Maine — Stephen King has fired back at conservative critics who attacked him over a remark he made a month ago at a writers symposium for high school students.

< snip , snip >

King fired back Monday.

"That a right-wing-blog would impugn my patriotism because I said children should learn to read, and could get better jobs by doing so, is beneath contempt," he said in a statement posted on his Web site.

Suzie
05-08-2008, 07:32 PM
He can try and sugar coat it all he wants but that's not what he said. It's in the video very clear.

Wolfcounsel
05-08-2008, 07:50 PM
"That a right-wing-blog would impugn my patriotism because I said children should learn to read, and could get better jobs by doing so, is beneath contempt," --Stephen King, posted by HomeschoolrsRU, from a link

So what is this crap of his telling illiterates that there is "the Army, Iraq, I don't know"? Try joining the Armed Forces as an illiterate, and then you can tell King to shove his books up his ass.

Serving in the Armed Forces is the highest form of public service, because you get to take out the trash.

I call Stephen King a retard.

Suzie
05-08-2008, 07:53 PM
I call Stephen King a retard.

I second that motion.... All in favor? ___________

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-08-2008, 07:56 PM
:wave: Aye!

TeenageRepublican
05-08-2008, 08:00 PM
Stephen King is a talented writer. He will be looked back as one of the most inspirational authors of the 20th and 21st Century. I've read several books of his and I will continue to read them because I can't help it if his books are so entertaining.
This comment has certainly pissed me off and shows how someone famous can isolate the fans like that. I have never cared about the man's politics until now. Thank you Stephen, for being thoughtful of your right-wing fans and using your fame for a great purpose. :rolleyes:

Suzie
05-08-2008, 08:14 PM
Right wing fans? He wasn't making a political statement about the war, he was calling soldiers stupid. There are democrats who have children in the military and even if they hate the war I am willing to bet they know their kids aren't stupid. Stephen King needs help for whatever goes on in his brain because it's warped.

TeenageRepublican
05-08-2008, 08:23 PM
I stand corrected. I think Stephen should just come out and apologize for what he said and donate some money to the military. He can afford it. But no, he's decided to act like a turd.

DeclinetoState
05-08-2008, 09:27 PM
Yes. I don't think he has the testicles to write his crap in a country like Saudi Arabia, or North Korea.

http://www.wcsh6.com/assetpool/images/0761115417_0311435017_king.jpg

I don't think he has testicles at all . . .

Lubbock
05-09-2008, 05:13 AM
What an Effing PIG this man is.

I'm proud to say, I've never put any money in his back pocket by reading anything thing he's writen.

Not one word.

Not one cent.

Suzie
05-09-2008, 07:05 AM
Maybe he should have told them if they don't get an education they could end up on many drugs, even using Cocaine.... funny though ... that's what Stephen King did.

The_Elucidator
05-09-2008, 07:36 AM
If you ever want to know what a liberal is thinking or up to, just see what they are accusing conservatives of doing. I have found folks in the military much more intelligent than the idiots in the entertainment industry. Unfortunately, like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube after squeezing it out, you can't put back in your heart what you have already spilled out. Stephen King is a Jack***. Watch how the military is portrayed in the movie The Stand, a bunch of thugs.

CONSERVATIVE HERO
05-09-2008, 07:48 AM
"That a right-wing-blog would impugn my patriotism because I said children should learn to read, and could get better jobs by doing so, is beneath contempt," he said in a statement posted on his Web site.
Try again Steve. Why must leftists be so insulting to the intelligence of others? His comments implicitly asserted that joining the military is the only recourse left for the unintelligent. Does he think the rest of us can't understand that, or that we don't know the military is, quite to the contrary, a great way for people to get both a college education and good jobs.

After watching "The Mist," which made clear how he views Christians to me, I really have no interest in reading or seeing anything produced by this leftist douche bag again.

Suzie
05-09-2008, 08:25 AM
He's in the Brain Dead Zone.

DoctorDoom
05-09-2008, 10:03 AM
Given a choice, which of these men would you entrust with your safety and security?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Military/USMarineFallujah.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/PITA/StevenKIng.jpg

F**k you, King, you pathetic, worthless rectum with legs.

Taylor1
05-09-2008, 04:54 PM
http://www.wcsh6.com/assetpool/images/0761115417_0311435017_king.jpg

I don't think he has testicles at all . . .

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5774/stephenkingsx4.jpg

TeenageRepublican
05-09-2008, 05:59 PM
After watching "The Mist," which made clear how he views Christians to me, I really have no interest in reading or seeing anything produced by this leftist douche bag again.

That's what you took from the movie? First of all, he did not try to put Christians in to a bad light. Believe it or not, there are Christians like that. What about the scene where the biker says: "I believe in God, lady, I just don't think he's the blood-sucking a-hole you make him out to be,"?
The movie's message was that man can't play God and man isn't in control of everything that happens (the ending supports this). And if Stephen King really hates Christians, then how can explain what he wrote in The Green Mile Part 4?
Only God could forgive sins, could and did, washing them away in the agonal blood of His crucified Son, but that did not change the responsibility of His children to atone for those sins (and even their simple errors of judgment) whenever possible. Atonement was powerful; it was the lock on the door you closed against the past.

In Part 6...

I think back to the sermons of my childhood, booming affirmations in the church of Praise Jesus, The Lord Is Mighty, and I recall how the preachers used to say that God's eye is on the sparrow, that He sees and marks even the least of His creations. Yet this same God sacrificed John Coffey, who tried only to do good in his blind way, as savagely as any Old Testament prophet ever sacrificed a defenseless lamb, as Abraham would have sacrificed his own son if actually called upon to do so. … If it happens, God lets it happen, and when we say "I don't understand," God replies, "I don't care."


Yes, Stephen King hates Christians :rolleyes:. Stephen does need to get a check-up on his faith, I agree about that. He does need to apologize and do something to prove he's sorry.

Suzie
05-09-2008, 07:22 PM
In my opinion he was making fun of Christians who do believe what the characters said. A lot of the left wing put that into their work for entertainment value. Like Ned Flanders on the Simpsons.

DesertFox
05-09-2008, 07:49 PM
Stephen King ... will be looked back [upon] as one of the most inspirational authors of the 20th and 21st Century. It's doubtful that any of his tomes will ever be considered great literature. Once he croaks, his reputation will decay until, 50 years from now, people will wonder who the hell he was. A century from now they'll wonder what our generations found entertaining about Stephen King.

Many of us, including me, wonder that already.

TeenageRepublican
05-09-2008, 08:10 PM
In my opinion he was making fun of Christians who do believe what the characters said. A lot of the left wing put that into their work for entertainment value. Like Ned Flanders on the Simpsons.

If you're talking about "The Mist", then I disagree. If you're talking about "The Green Mile", then I apologize ahead of time.
I didn't really see Stephen King mocking Christians in "The Mist". My father, who is more Christian than me, shook his head while watching it and said: "I would be offended by this if I didn't know so many people like her."
As for The Simpsons, I also disagree. This again is showing how some Christians are. My car pool is exactly like that family (multiplied by at least two). Not all Christians in The Simpsons are like that.

It's doubtful that any of his tomes will ever be considered great literature. Once he croaks, his reputation will decay until, 50 years from now, people will wonder who the hell he was. A century from now they'll wonder what our generations found entertaining about Stephen King.

Many of us, including me, wonder that already.

Tell that to the best-selling writers who say Stephen King is one of their inspirations. I highly doubt with his 60+ novels and his 200+ short stories, that he would go out that easily.

Suzie
05-09-2008, 08:18 PM
They must be his dope smoking, cocaine snorting buddies. Why would they even have this dope head go speak to High School kids? If his family hadn't intervened he would have killed himself.

MaximumSam
05-09-2008, 08:19 PM
Speaking of The Mist, I thought it was interesting that he made the Christian girl so disgusting, but all her predictions came true, especially the last one regarding the kid.

TeenageRepublican
05-09-2008, 08:44 PM
They must be his dope smoking, cocaine snorting buddies. Why would they even have this dope head go speak to High School kids? If his family hadn't intervened he would have killed himself.

Why would they have a dope head like Johnny Cash go sing at a prison?
If Stephen King were proud of the fact he was addicted to all that crap, I would feel just as you do. But he doesn't.
We all make mistakes. My father was addicted to porn before he became a pastor. He got out of that because his family and the love of Christ. Now, according to your logic, he shouldn't be preaching because he made some mistakes in his life that he's sorry for.

TeenageRepublican
05-09-2008, 08:47 PM
Speaking of The Mist, I thought it was interesting that he made the Christian girl so disgusting, but all her predictions came true, especially the last one regarding the kid.

I thought that was kind of screwed up, personally. I still think the message is that everything will go the way it's not supposed to if man plays God (such as the woman being correct about the predictions).

Suzie
05-09-2008, 08:52 PM
Sounds to me like King is still screwed up.

TeenageRepublican
05-09-2008, 09:34 PM
I just posted this on a non-political writing forum to see what other writers (some are influenced by King) had to say. Do you mind if I post a link to some of the replies or not?

Suzie
05-09-2008, 09:38 PM
I don't think Rhino wants people linking to other forums. I am sure people are capable of browsing the web to see what's being said other places if they want to know. But you should wait and ask him.

TeenageRepublican
05-09-2008, 09:43 PM
Okay. I will. I was just asking first because I wasn't sure and I didn't want to piss you guys off again.

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-09-2008, 10:01 PM
Sounds to me like King is still screwed up.

He is, Suz.

CONSERVATIVE HERO
05-10-2008, 03:14 AM
That's what you took from the movie? First of all, he did not try to put Christians in to a bad light.
/Yawn. Yeah. Much like he wasn't trying to cast the military in a negative light either. Sorry, but you're one of the last people on Earth I'd turn to in order to find the "message" of any literary work (or anything else for that matter).

Don't expect me to idolize this man, or pretend he doesn't seed his work with his leftist sentiments, simply because you do mate.

It's doubtful that any of his tomes will ever be considered great literature. Once he croaks, his reputation will decay until, 50 years from now, people will wonder who the hell he was. A century from now they'll wonder what our generations found entertaining about Stephen King.

Many of us, including me, wonder that already.
But DF, king is one of the most prolific producers of B movie quality plot fodder out there. No?

TeenageRepublican
05-10-2008, 08:27 AM
Yawn. Yeah. Much like he wasn't trying to cast the military in a negative light either. Sorry, but you're one of the last people on Earth I'd turn to in order to find the "message" of any literary work (or anything else for that matter).

Don't expect me to idolize this man, or pretend he doesn't seed his work with his leftist sentiments, simply because you do mate.


I never said he doesn't do that or that I idolize him. I'm just pointing out something that you completely missed about the movie. King used a top-secret government plan because what else is there? You can't tell that the government is being open with everything they do. I guess he's a monster for doing that.
He writes very well and occasionally mentions politics, but it's not in-your-face. Maybe if you actually (*GASP!*) read his work, you would see that.

Suzie
05-10-2008, 08:59 AM
By the way TR, don't use this to take the thread off topic but just so you know ... Johnny Cash was never in prison, going to speak to them would make him a good role model for them to see that's not where they should have ended up. They need to be stronger than their problems, not use them to hurt others.

King going to speak to high school students only gives them an image that I can be a loser and still make money cranking out a book every so often when I am on one of my drug trips. If anyone thinks they are going to be able to do the same thing and make that kind of money when even King is a fluke must be smoking whatever he is.

TeenageRepublican
05-10-2008, 09:07 AM
It is possible that he has a drug addiction of some type still. He was your typical hippie in the 60's.

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-10-2008, 09:10 AM
King is an elitist. I have watched and read interviews with him. He's arrogant (i.e. typical lefty). His writing has deteriorated over the years (not that it was that great to begin with). He appeals to a certain audience, but after a while, when one engages the brain they have a tendency to outgrow his books. I know I sure did. I used to get every one of them I could find, but after The Stand and It, the rest is just puff and fluff.

Suzie
05-10-2008, 09:23 AM
If he did stop using the drugs he will probably blame that for him running out of ideas again. Those kind of people usually can't stay clean. Since apparently this is all he knows how to do hopefully his family will continue to be able to keep him from ODing like they have in the past. But he's probably going to have a tough time making any money insulting his readers and and his money he already made going up his nose, he better get used to the idea of asking those soldiers he insulted if they want fries with that when they stop by on their lunch breaks to see him while pursuing their careers.

Riverboat
05-10-2008, 10:02 AM
Tell that to the best-selling writers who say Stephen King is one of their inspirations.On that tangent, let me ask what exactly makes a writer's works stand as classics? Not to sound elitist, but I don't think measuring by volumes sold is a good measure. Shall we rely on the critics? Depends. Some of them - okay, a LOT of them - measure literature and art by shock value. By that measure, The Va-jay-jay Monotones, Snoop Doggy-Style and everything Yoko Oh No produced represent the pinnacle of civilization.

There are plenty of writers toiling away in relative anonymity whose works will far surpass whatever's on the NYT list. Stephen King writes a bunch of page-turning thrillers and stuff. I guess. I've never read a single paragraph of his. As screwy as universities are these days, I don't think any of them have incorporated his oeuvre as part of their English curriculum. Could be wrong. He received an honorary doctorate from Maine, but so did his wife. I'm not aware she ever wrote anything. In any case, the last time any writer received an honorary doctorate that truly merited one was Mark Twain. And Stephen King is no Mark Twain.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c6/250px-Mark_Twain_DLitt.jpg

Lubbock
05-10-2008, 02:18 PM
I didn't know about the drug addiction --but then I don't make a practice of keeping up with the likes of King.

I don't like him.

My dislike for him started with the first photograph I saw of him, which was at about the same time that I learned he wrote horror stories.

Not my cup of tea.

His writing or his looks.

And . . . what Boat said.

TeenageRepublican
05-10-2008, 03:33 PM
1.By the way TR, don't use this to take the thread off topic but just so you know ... Johnny Cash was never in prison, going to speak to them would make him a good role model for them to see that's not where they should have ended up. They need to be stronger than their problems, not use them to hurt others.

2.King going to speak to high school students only gives them an image that I can be a loser and still make money cranking out a book every so often when I am on one of my drug trips. If anyone thinks they are going to be able to do the same thing and make that kind of money when even King is a fluke must be smoking whatever he is.

1. Are you sure? I thought he was caught with marijuana or cocaine and went to prison for a couple of days.
2. While some books of his have been written while he was either drunk or high (or both), I don't think his creativity is completely based on his drug/liquor addiction. His creativity, in fact, was the only part of himself that was talking about, begging him to stop.
"The Shining", "The Tommyknockers", and "Misery" were all books that involved a writer as a main character. In "Misery" the writer was held hostage in bed while a crazy woman forced him to write another novel. Annie represented the cocaine abuse.
In "The Shining", a drunk writer goes insane and comes after his family. In "The Tommyknockers", the writer is trying to stop aliens from controlling people and making them "tommy-knock" in their heads. He realized all of this after he supposedly got over his addictions.
I know a writer that wrote an even more twisted story that made my jaw drop. It was a story from the point of view of a urinal. It talked about sexual addiction and what results come of it. It had a twist ending, two men walk in holding a paper. On the front page, it shows the pervert that was in there in a pool of blood. This writer is a proud conservative.
I'm not trying to defend Stephen King's addiction, but I am defending the fact that some writers have twisted imaginations that aren't induced by cocaine or beer. But a lot of his novels may have been written while he was either high or drunk, it is possible.

Suzie
05-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Yes I am sure. He was in jail over night for public drunkenness and bar fights ... never been to prison. http://www.acousticguitar.com/issues/ag102/featureB102.shtml

Your opinion on the rest.

TeenageRepublican
05-10-2008, 03:39 PM
Okay, my bad. I stand corrected.

Maggie_T
05-10-2008, 03:46 PM
It's doubtful that any of his tomes will ever be considered great literature. Once he croaks, his reputation will decay until, 50 years from now, people will wonder who the hell he was. A century from now they'll wonder what our generations found entertaining about Stephen King.

Many of us, including me, wonder that already.

Indeed.

I like a good thriller as much as the next one. I only read a couple of King's books, but I always felt like he started a good story, but never knew how to end it. As a result, his books are too long to keep up the initial interest, and the endings always make me roll my eyes more than sigh with satisfaction.

The last book I read by King was Dreamcatcher. And it was so unbearably, mortifyingly BAD that I couldn't make it past the first quarter of the book. I trashed it and never touched another book by him since.

As for his comment about the military, John Kerry beat him to it, remember?

Nothing new. Just another elitist liberal son of a bitch, shooting his mouth off about people worth a million times what liberals can only dream they would be worth on their best day.

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-10-2008, 03:46 PM
On that tangent, let me ask what exactly makes a writer's works stand as classics? Not to sound elitist, but I don't think measuring by volumes sold is a good measure. Shall we rely on the critics? Depends. Some of them - okay, a LOT of them - measure literature and art by shock value. By that measure, The Va-jay-jay Monotones, Snoop Doggy-Style and everything Yoko Oh No produced represent the pinnacle of civilization.

Absolutely, brudder Boat!

There are plenty of writers toiling away in relative anonymity whose works will far surpass whatever's on the NYT list. Stephen King writes a bunch of page-turning thrillers and stuff. I guess. I've never read a single paragraph of his. As screwy as universities are these days, I don't think any of them have incorporated his oeuvre as part of their English curriculum. Could be wrong.

It wouldn't surprise me if some college English Pro-Fesser was using his works as a basis for his class. Wouldn't surprise me at all, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/goofyeye.gif

He received an honorary doctorate from Maine, but so did his wife. I'm not aware she ever wrote anything.

Yes, she is a writer too: Tabitha King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabitha_King)
"King has published seven novels, all of which were released in paperback by New American Library, as well as one work of non-fiction."

In any case, the last time any writer received an honorary doctorate that truly merited one was Mark Twain. And Stephen King is no Mark Twain.

You got that right, Boat!

"Thousands of geniuses live and die undiscovered--either by themselves or by others."
- Autobiography of Mark Twain