This isn't a joke...

[Taylor1]

It's a very small thing that I think might just creep up behind us. These idiot kids
and they keep saying stuff like "Marriage is outdated" however, I did see a lot of liberals sticking up for Marriage which surprised the heck outta me. Anyway, just something to think about, if there is ever a headline that says "Is Marriage Outdated?" then I called it!

[RogerFGay]

Marriage IS outdated legally; it no longer exists in the USA. This is not a joke: marriage and family have been absorbed into the federal welfare program. They legally no longer exist as the established institutions that we actually mean when we think of and refer to marriage and family.

[Timberwolf]

Societies rise and fall according to the "health" of the nuclear family. When the family is assaulted / marginalized, society cannot survive.

[Wolfcounsel]

"Marriage IS outdated legally; it no longer exists in the USA." --RogerFGay

Let some clown try to tell me that so he can arrange a meeting with my wife. He will answer to her first, and I will probably just need a shovel to bury his carcass. Marriage is alive with people who consider it a bond from God and themselves. Screw the welfare bums.

[LivingDeadGirl]

Tell that to the woman who has lived with a man for 20 years and upon his death is informed that she has NO say in his funeral arrangements, can be barred from attending the ceremony, can be kicked out of the house she has shared with him because it is in his name only and BY LAW can have anything she cannot prove is hers taken away and given to the executor of his estate to dole out as he/she sees fit.

While there are many religious connotations to marriage, there are many legal ones as well.

[Wolfcounsel]

"Tell that to the woman who has lived with a man for 20 years and upon his death is informed that she has NO say in his funeral arrangements, can be barred from attending the ceremony, can be kicked out of the house she has shared with him because it is in his name only and BY LAW can have anything she cannot prove is hers taken away and given to the executor of his estate to dole out as he/she sees fit." --LivingDeadGirl

Are you talking about a pre-nuptial (not a marriage)? Can you give details? Clearly there is a difference between a real marriage and a marriage made in Hell.

[LivingDeadGirl]

"Tell that to the woman who has lived with a man for 20 years and upon his death is informed that she has NO say in his funeral arrangements, can be barred from attending the ceremony, can be kicked out of the house she has shared with him because it is in his name only and BY LAW can have anything she cannot prove is hers taken away and given to the executor of his estate to dole out as he/she sees fit." --LivingDeadGirl

Are you talking about a pre-nuptial (not a marriage)? Can you give details? Clearly there is a difference between a real marriage and a marriage made in Hell.

Sorry I was unclear...they were living together, not married...And I thought I hit quote to capture RFG's comment about marriage being outdated legally in the US.

The couple in question were not married but had lived together for 20 years, Illinois does not recognize "common law marriage". When the man died his children were given the legal authority to plan his funeral and because they HATED the woman they totally excluded her from the arrangements, barred her from attending (which they can legally do) and would not let her know where he was being burried. Because he had bought the house before they got together and had never refinanced, it was still in his name only, because they were not married she had no legal standing to keep living in the house and his children had her evicted and she was only allowed to take her clothes, jewelry and any personal possessions that she could prove were hers. All other household items were deemed to be his and were considered by the court to be possessions of his estate. His will was very vague and the child who was the executress interpreted it in the way that was least advantageous to the "wife".

Fiance' is a funeral director, which is how I heard about it...his funeral home was in charge of the arrangements and it was a MESS because of all the legal ramifications and court challenges. The "wife" lost each and every filing.

It really drove the point home about marriage being more than a piece of paper...legally as well as otherwise...

[Wolfcounsel]

I see. Yes. Marriage IS more than a piece of paper. It has to be a union made by God, and the man and the woman each contribute 100 percent to it.

[LivingDeadGirl]

I see. Yes. Marriage IS more than a piece of paper. It has to be a union made by God, and the man and the woman each contribute 100 percent to it. :thumb: I agree

[RogerFGay]

I guess some of us compartmentalize more easily than others.

Marriage IS outdated legally; it no longer exists in the USA.

Marriage and family are now legally nothing more than bureacratic concepts in the welfare program; subject to arbitrary political control.

And Wolfcounsel; "Welfare scum" didn't do that, unless that's your new nickname for elected politicians - Republicans and Democrats.

[Wolfcounsel]

"And Wolfcounsel; "Welfare scum" didn't do that, unless that's your new nickname for elected politicians - Republicans and Democrats." --RogerFGay

You got it! 99 percent! With a little hedge there, without welfare scum, the welfare barons cannot leech off the taxpayers, the same way without dumbasses who glorify drugs, drug lords cannot survive.

Welcome to the new aristocracy. The welfare barons will reap while the serfs under their control rake in the money for both sides, while the suckers who work to feed the fat lords and lazy turds will just piss and moan and take it up the---- and jump a little at first.

The group my wife and I will be in is the group that will fight the thieves tooth and nail until they are defeated.

[TeenageRepublican]

You just now noticed this Taylor?

[DeclinetoState]

Believe me, TR, there are a lot of people out there who haven't noticed it.

[hosl]

I have an entire way to stop, or at least slow down, welfare. If a single mother decides to have more than one kid with a deadbeat guy and decides to stay on the dole, every kid she has, she gets less money. Why not? A lot of these mothers ignore the kids and spend the money on themselves and the numbers of people in a certain "welfare generation" will decrease pretty darn quick.

But on the subject of marriage, I read something like there are 157 legal benefits to being married which include being able to visit the spouse in the hospital. And LivingDeadGirl, that strangely reminds me of what happens in "The Savages", if you've seen it.

[Beowulf]

Marriage IS outdated legally; it no longer exists in the USA.

Oh really!?! My wife and I take that committment very seriously and have held true to our vows for 19 years. There are others here who have been together longer. Naturalized Texan comes to mind as he and his wife just celebrated 54 years.

And did I mention the 40th anniversary party I'm having for my in-laws this weekend?

Marriage outdated? Nah!

[TeenageRepublican]

Believe me, TR, there are a lot of people out there who haven't noticed it.

That's because this is the "Me" generation. "I" don't care as long as it's not happening to "Me".
It's all Bush's fault. Him and his no-good neo-con agenda just makes me want to puke my insides out. Wikipedia says that it's his fault and no one should ever pass Wikipedia as a reliable source.

[RogerFGay]

Oh really!?! My wife and I take that committment very seriously and have held true to our vows for 19 years. There are others here who have been together longer. Naturalized Texan comes to mind as he and his wife just celebrated 54 years.

And did I mention the 40th anniversary party I'm having for my in-laws this weekend?

Marriage outdated? Nah!

I feel like I've responded to this already.

[PrezLeefun]

Marriage as it should be an equal partnership between a man and woman before God is what is outdated. Any alternative definition of marriage is what the libbies like. They don't want to get rid of it they just want to change it so much that it no longer resembles what it is supposed to be.

[Wolfcounsel]

I predict common law marriage, as well as welfare bum breeding, will become things of curiosity in the very near future.

[Timberwolf]

Many of society's ills could be almost completely done away with were we to discontinue welfare of all colors and varieties.