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TheRealLobo
08-11-2003, 02:30 PM
Ladies and Gents. I've been remiss in posting things to this forum, and will try to post more in the future.

There are a few main points to know about self-defense.

First you need to be able to act decisively. If you are not willing to follow through, and begin to feel sympathy for someone who is willing to inflict great harm or worse upon you, then you may as well lay there and be a victim.

Second, you need to "practice" some of the moves (Granted, if you practice SOME of the things I will share with you, you will likely injure whoever you are practicing on or worse). Shooters and atheletes know the ability to make certain actions without error as "muscle memory". It's a good description. The less you have to "think" about what your body is doing, the faster you can do it.

Third, you need to adopt a strategy of thinking ahead. I've said it before, and will repeat it now. You need to think "What would I do if?" instead of "What do I do now?" Trying to work something out in the heat of "battle" (so to speak) can cost you precious time. You can adopt this approach to many things. I drive 40 miles down a long winding, two lane, blacktop road, frequently in the dark, every morning. I have worked out what I would do for anything that may occur on that road, on any stretch of it. That's not paranoid, it's "planning ahead".

Fourth, this information is offered as a suggestion, and may or may not work for you. There are a great many exceptions to the things I will tell you, and I cannot be held responsible if something I share will not work in a particular situation. GENERALLY the things I share WILL work to give you an opportunity to ESCAPE from an attack. If you manage to knock an assailant to the ground, this is NOT the time to share with him/her your thoughts on his/her ancestry, motives, or desires. It is the time to get away. Keep in mind, in many areas, the continual attack on someone who is no longer a threat can be cause for arrest.

A lot of women are taught to knee someone in the groin. This is good information, IF the guy has never heard of it. Many assailants have sisters, moms, aunts, and girlfriends that have probably heard of it too, so likely the guy has (besides, not all bad guys are guys).

A better alternative is to turn your fingers into claws. Scratch the bad guy's forehead and rake downwards. Push as hard as you can. Do NOT let up on the pressure as you reach the eyes. Do this as SOON as you have the opportunity, and do it QUICKLY.

A bad guy's first reaction will be to reach for the area attaked, to see if there is blood.

Follow through on the momentum and you can do one (or more) of four things:

1. Go back for the face.

2. Go for the throat.

3. Go for the nose.

4. Go for the genital region

If you go for the face, aim for the eyes. If the hands are covering the eyes, go for the throat or nose.

If you go for the nose, (it's gonna sound gross, but we're talking protecting yourself or your loved ones here) try to stuf your fingers as far up his/her nose as possible, then crook your fingers and scrape your nails, trying to remove as much meat as possible.

If you go for the throat, aim low, towards the top of the chest vs towards the bottom of the chin. A throat punch is very effective at putting someone on the ground.

Another good spot near the nose, is the point where the nose is attached to the upper lip. There is a bundle of nerves there, that if hit will IMMEDIATELY inflict debilitating pain on the bad guy, as well as make tears flow, blurring the vision. This is a relatively small spot though, and less likely to be hit.

If you decide to go for the groin, NOW is the time to do it. Step forward with your "weak" leg, and drive the "strong" knee into his/her groin. This will effective and painful on either sex, but will be MORE effective on a guy for obvious reasons.

Once you have done this, and the attacker has released his hold on you, RUN LIKE HELL. Scream "FIRE" at the top of your lungs (it's been shown that you get a better response).

I've taught self defense to different groups in the past, and have some techniques that I've developed, that have been used by different folks. They've found them useful.

DaiKaijuGojira
08-11-2003, 11:20 PM
As usual you are right to the point TRL.

To add to his helpful info. BE CALM. Analyze the situation. Always give your self options. Where to strike, find his/her weakness and exploit it.

NEVER try to fight a guy with a gun. Unless you are that skilled. Most robbers don't want to kill.


Go for the knees as well. Toes too. Use your teeth. We are animals, its allowed. Nails too.

An attacker chooses you because they immediately think they are stronger than you.

If you are in a fight and what you are trying isn't working, don't keep doing it. Try something else. Use fakes. Don;t waste punches.


To add to TRL's list, hit the temple too.

Armpits are sensitive,Try finger locks are too.

Standing still is certain doom, keep your attacker on the move intil you can escape or defeat him.

I hope I helped out here.
I can proudly say I have been up against the best.
I would be happy to give people fighting tips.

Rink
08-12-2003, 06:31 PM
one thing, always be AWARE of your immediate surroundings, like going out of a store to your car, be aware of your surroundings, and be damn certain the car keys is IN your hands and the key part exposed just in case someone does attack you can use that little mettal 'spike' of a key to rake, stab and gouge your attacker.

Thanks for the advice guys, hope mine is as good.

THEBIRD
08-14-2003, 10:50 PM
A Good trick I learned in Basic. When in a headlock, bring your arm up over the guys head and under his nose. Apply one finger and push to the rear. Chances are the guy will find himself on his ass.....quickley.

Our DI asked us if anyone wanted to put him in a head lock to make the point that he could bring us down with one finger. We kinda laughed until he flipped the dareing volunteer.....just using his finger and that technique. He made us do push ups after that for doubting him....hell in basic we did pushups for breathing without asking.

Anyway, It's a neat trick. Big pressure point under that noise!

DaiKaijuGojira
08-15-2003, 10:27 AM
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THEBIRD said:
A Good trick I learned in Basic. When in a headlock, bring your arm up over the guys head and under his nose. Apply one finger and push to the rear. Chances are the guy will find himself on his ass.....quickley.

Our DI asked us if anyone wanted to put him in a head lock to make the point that he could bring us down with one finger. We kinda laughed until he flipped the dareing volunteer.....just using his finger and that technique. He made us do push ups after that for doubting him....hell in basic we did pushups for breathing without asking.

Anyway, It's a neat trick. Big pressure point under that noise!


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If I may add to this.

After you swing one arm around and hook his face in your hand, at the same time, swing your other arm under his legs and knock out the leg, Like yopu are going to lift him but not. Then push him the the ground.

For you advanced fighters, you are open to give an arm lock.

TheRealLobo
08-17-2003, 06:27 AM
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Rink said:
one thing, always be AWARE of your immediate surroundings, like going out of a store to your car, be aware of your surroundings, and be damn certain the car keys is IN your hands and the key part exposed just in case someone does attack you can use that little mettal 'spike' of a key to rake, stab and gouge your attacker.

Thanks for the advice guys, hope mine is as good.

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It is.

Particularly ALWAYS be aware of what is going on around you.

That's part of the "What do I do IF?" thing I was talking about.

Rink
08-17-2003, 06:11 PM
Its funny if not abit scarey to have panhandlers approach me While I'm in my car.

I politely refuse to part with one dime o my money, had one beg me for a couple dollars so they could have a bigmac, had another beg me for money because they had no money to call their insurance company after a wreck down the road (conveniently beyond my sight), and more.

I dunno why the hell I'm such a magnet for these panhandlers I was sitting eating my fast food at a macDonald parking lot minding my own business.

But I Always keep a knife conveniently tucked away between my seat where i can grab ut if needed, it has a nice steel butt on it that would hurt anyone if I used it in a hurry.

Its the sharpest knife I got and the best for any kind of emergency and the steel butt on it is perfect to break a window open if need be in case of a wreck etc.

I keep my eyes goin when leaving a grocery store to the car and vice versa.

In an albertson parking lot there was one big black guy and his kid aggressively panhandling, trying to sell candy in a paper bag for money.

I backed up and said no and went to the store and immediately told the store managers bout that as this guy was going right up to people In their cars and stopping them and bugging for money.

THAT makes me nervous, cuz this fella towered over me and was well muscular.

He quickly left when the store people came out to talk to him.

Yah big city life, its amazing what you see if you keep your eyes peeled.

Once while going down 4th ave, I saw this guy who obviously had rode a bike was off the bike and it was lying on the sidewalk, he was kicking dirt all over the sidewalk and stomping something, he just was oblivious to everything else and kicking dirt and stomping whatever was being kicked onto the sidewalk.

Another time I went to that same macDonalds place, and went to the bathroom and found one of those arm bands that hospital people use when they either inject you or take blood (to cut off the blood to get a vein to show up), right there on the toilet paper roller.
I went to the macDonalds people and told em bout it.

Weirdos abound and I'm aware of that.
(dont tell my mom, she'd worry all the more bout me in town if she only knew what i see in town oy!)

Beowulf
08-17-2003, 08:45 PM
Thanks to the Army, I'm always aware of my surroundings and I have a very good "idiot" alarm.

I was driving home late one night and pulled into a store in Boston for a soda. I walked back to my car and was approached by a Hispanic couple who asked for a ride to there car which was about a mile away "with a flat tire" and they only needed a tire iron. My "Idiot" alarm went off.

I politely refused saying I had no tire iron and my wife was in labor (a lie, of course). Sounded like a mugging attempt to me!

ducktapehero
08-25-2003, 02:03 PM
Another good idea, instead of kicking them in the groin, reach down there with your hand, grab ahold of their nuts REAL hard and twist like hell. I once told my wife about that, well a few weeks later we were kinda play wrestling and she did that. OMG I about passed out. I told her that to only do that in an emergency.

Rink
08-25-2003, 03:56 PM
Hehehe LOL
be careful whut ya teach your wife! http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

nosferatuscoffin
08-29-2003, 05:25 AM
Egads! Duck!

That hurt just reading it. Women have no clue how vulnerable we are 'there'.

DaiKaijuGojira
08-29-2003, 07:44 AM
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nosferatuscoffin said:
Egads! Duck!

That hurt just reading it. Women have no clue how vulnerable we are 'there'.




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Heh, Let your male opponent think you want to hit his face, but have the balls targeted. It does not take a lot of force to do damage, A well placed thrust punch there will cause immediate shut down.
Like Myagi said...FOCUS POWER, HY-YAAH!

nosferatuscoffin
08-29-2003, 09:09 AM
Bend over...:)

Rocketman
09-18-2003, 12:24 PM
ducktapehero said:

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Another good idea, instead of kicking them in the groin, reach down there with your hand, grab ahold of their nuts REAL hard and twist like hell. I once told my wife about that, well a few weeks later we were kinda play wrestling and she did that. OMG I about passed out. I told her that to only do that in an emergency.

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SHEESH! I am still having abdominal cramps over that one!

HarvickFan29
10-30-2003, 06:08 PM
The main thing is to stop the person with as less problems as possible so you can run for the authorities. He is usually gonna expect you to kick him in the groin. But, one of the things that has always worked for me is kick him or her as hard as you can right above the kneecap so that it buckles backwards. The main thing is to escape and a guy laying on the ground holding his knee, who can't put any pressure on his leg is not gonna be able to come after you before you can get away.

Pepper spray is good to carry but have it out and ready when alone. It doesn't work on alot of Mexicans either, and others who have a heavy diet of hot peppers such as habeneros.

HarvickFan29
10-30-2003, 08:39 PM
How about this? (http://www.udap.com/)

DesertFox
11-01-2003, 05:44 PM
The best blow of all is a hard shot to the Adam's Apple. It's worth going along with him to get in position to get that shot in.

He will immediately lose all interest in you and get VERY interested in breathing.

HarvickFan29
11-01-2003, 06:50 PM
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DesertFox said:
The best blow of all is a hard shot to the Adam's Apple. It's worth going along with him to get in position to get that shot in.

He will immediately lose all interest in you and get VERY interested in breathing.

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Good idea, Fox! Hit him there with the fist? I'm kinda short so it would have to be perfect timing if my attacker happened to be tall.

TheRealLobo
02-01-2004, 05:24 AM
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HarvickFan29 said:
Good idea, Fox! Hit him there with the fist? I'm kinda short so it would have to be perfect timing if my attacker happened to be tall.

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Palm strike is always better than a fist, but use whatever is handy.

A knife hand ("karate chop") or spearhand (fingertips locked and pointed out, pointed to the throat) is even better. Unprotected fists are FAR overrated.

Elbow, head, shoulder, forearm, umbrella handle, whatever you have.