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DesertFox
06-21-2008, 11:13 PM
We all knew it even though Democrat spokespersons denied it. Worried that the negative connotations would affect their electability and their eyes glued to the capricious winds of public opinion, they invented new words for the old ideology such as progressivism and communitarianism. Apparently, the camouflage is no longer needed. The masks are off. They now openly call for the nationalization of private business, the establishment of universal entitlements and increased taxation to pay for them. Why worry about socialist labels? The electorate is complacent, prosperity has numbed our senses and the left has worked diligently for many years to sap our national pride and deface our self-image.
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Eight years into the twenty-first century, Mr. Thomas' prediction is coming perilously close to fruition; the presidential elections of 2008 may well validate his faith in "liberalism" and its Trojan horse delivery of Socialism.
More (http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.html)
DesertFox
06-21-2008, 11:44 PM
Why do we call them 'Democrats'?
Not all of us call them Democrats. Some of us call them Communists. Maggie and TW are calling them demunists. I call them traitorous lying stinky assholes.
RogerFGay
06-22-2008, 05:45 AM
yeah, like I've been saying - stop calling them liberal - they're not
Taylor1
06-22-2008, 05:54 AM
I call them communists most of the time to be honest.
Longhorn_Platinum
06-22-2008, 08:44 AM
:unsmile: I call them "demonic rats".
DeclinetoState
06-22-2008, 08:56 AM
I hate to get into the name-calling game, since a lot of Democrats do the same thing.
A small-d democrat is simply one (at least by original definition) who believes in the power of the people to make political decisions; therefore, a democrat now should (theoretically, anyway) be one who believes in at least most major political decisions being made through the initiative and referendum process. Some Democrats probably do; though I doubt that is true for most of them.
Beowulf
06-22-2008, 11:49 AM
Where has anyone seen me call them, "Democrats?" I refer to them as:
-Dimwitcrats (Maggie started that one I think)
-Dummycrats
-Democreeps
NEVER do I refer to them by proper designation.
CONSERVATIVE HERO
06-22-2008, 01:46 PM
We all knew it even though Democrat spokespersons denied it. Worried that the negative connotations would affect their electability and their eyes glued to the capricious winds of public opinion, they invented new words for the old ideology such as progressivism and communitarianism. Apparently, the camouflage is no longer needed. The masks are off. They now openly call for the nationalization of private business, the establishment of universal entitlements and increased taxation to pay for them. Why worry about socialist labels? The electorate is complacent, prosperity has numbed our senses and the left has worked diligently for many years to sap our national pride and deface our self-image.
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Eight years into the twenty-first century, Mr. Thomas' prediction is coming perilously close to fruition; the presidential elections of 2008 may well validate his faith in "liberalism" and its Trojan horse delivery of Socialism.
More (http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.html)
Absolutely spot on. The enemy is all about manipulating terminology. I realized it years ago on my own, as have others I'm sure, that the democrats are merely pushing socialism and communism by any word but socialism and communism (this was a belief only vindicated years later when reading of a fabian socialist who said just that, 'push socialism by any other word but socialism').
I've been telling people for years to stop calling them "liberals," "progressives," or even "leftists." You're only doing their propagandizing for them by referring to them with the very marketable misnomers they fabricate for themselves (which make them appear harmless, or even good).
Think of it like this. It's like someone criticizing a pedophile while calling him a "mentor of children." He can't understand, for all his valid criticism, why everyone thinks he's just picking on a poor, good-hearted, "mentor of children." Obviously the pedophile's likely not going to admit to being a pedophile. To call him a "mentor of children," merely works to his benefit when he claims he's just a guy who 'cares about kids,' and works against you when he claims you just hate people who like kids.
Perhaps it's not the best example, but work with me people.
Conservative talking head's like Hannity have frustrated me for years by doing this, clueless, oblivious, to the fact you can't make people see your opponent for what he really is if you yourself refer to him as something else. Sean will go on a tirade against "liberals" (Liberal: open-minded or tolerant, favorable to progress or reform, etc.).
It's just spitting in the wind.
Call them what they are. That's what they fear the most. These people go to great lengths to conceal their true ideology. Nothing could be more damaging to them, and their agenda, than to simply accurately identify them.
Maxine Waters is not a democrat. Maxine Waters is a MARXIST.
Same goes with any other issue. Don't let them get away with calling infanticide "choice." Don't, yourself, call homosexuals "gay." "Gay is a propaganda term designed to make something unmarketable marketable. It's meant to portray poison as "happy." Etc., etc.
Similarly, just as they inaccurately label themselves, they apply deceptive appellations to us and our traditional beliefs. Those who oppose illegal immigration are labeled "racists" or "xenophobes." Opposition to homosexuality is labeled "homophobia" or "hate." Etc., etc.
Their arguments will always be built upon defending the marketable misnomer as opposed to what something actually is. If you take that bait, you lose, period. If you're successfully lured into debating someone about the merits of "gay rights" for example, which don't exist, they've already won. You just accepted the premise, you just granted it legitimacy, and advanced their agenda as these things are what the misnomer was designed to achieve all along.
The socialists and pinkos have been dominating the right for years now with this. I'm waiting for mainstream conservatism to wake up.
Maggie_T
06-22-2008, 02:16 PM
Fox, a thousand thanks for posting this Hall of Famer. :thumb: I've bookmarked it.
It is so good, it is impossible to parse it. Every single phrase is an indisputable truth. Especially because it mirrors our present situation so completely.
Unfortunately, this article, and other similar heralds of "Christmases to come," go largely unread by the Scrooges who most urgently need to read them. :(
Timberwolf
06-22-2008, 04:54 PM
Maggie coined the term, I'm merely parroting it..."Demunist" is particularly accurate in its description of democraps.
DesertFox
06-22-2008, 05:20 PM
Why do we call them 'Democrats'? They had to call them something, and "Traitorous Stinky Rectum Party" wasn't going over too well.
Maggie_T
06-22-2008, 05:56 PM
Maggie coined the term, I'm merely parroting it..."Demunist" is particularly accurate in its description of democraps.
I did? :question:
Maggie_T
06-22-2008, 06:00 PM
They had to call them something, and "Traitorous Stinky Rectum Party" wasn't going over too well.
Neither was the Party of Infant Murder on Demand. Or the Party of Hairy-Legs/Pits Harridans. Or the Party of party of Emasculated Males and Eunuchs.
All of them most accurate. Which is probably why demunists don't like them. Just like they don't like the equally accurate COMMUNIST.
Wolfcounsel
06-22-2008, 06:14 PM
It was Kathy30 who coined the word "demunists". I call them Democraps.
DesertFox
06-22-2008, 06:18 PM
Dang. And I had $100k on Maggie. :(
Maggie_T
06-22-2008, 06:21 PM
:blush:
I'll tell Howard Dean to reimburse you.
BarkleUSA
06-22-2008, 06:27 PM
I really wish the Democratic Party would officially change their name to the Communist Party or the Anti-America Party. At least 50% of voters are completely unaware that the Democrats of today are seeking to destroy America and replace our Constitution with their own communist manifesto.
DeclinetoState
06-22-2008, 10:15 PM
Related question: What would Thomas Jefferson, the "founder" (if you could call anyone that) of the Democrat-Republican (now Democrat) party call the present-day political organization?
Lazarus
06-23-2008, 09:46 AM
..."The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948...This statement just shows the motivation behind Communists... They know that rational men will reject their system because it is self-imposed slavery... And yet these people still promote it under disguises meant to slip chains on us without our knowledge... So do they actually believe in Social Utopia or do they simply believe in institutionalize slavery with themselves as the masters who live like kings on the backs of a nation of slaves?
They admit in the statement above that they cannot honestly sell their system based on its merits - they must trick us, distract us, and con us into putting on the chains voluntarily...
Such is their god...
DeclinetoState
06-23-2008, 09:59 AM
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DeclinetoState
06-23-2008, 10:06 AM
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Bernie Sanders, a "self-described democratic socialist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders)," although he runs as an independent.
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