An excellent point by a Rush caller

[DoctorDoom]

EDWARDS: Well, I think if McCain is elected, it won't destroy the Republican Party, it won't help Rush Limbaugh any, and that's probably a good thing. You know, the fact of the matter is that the conservative base, the Republican base is not the religious right, it's not the neocons. They are less than 30% of the Republicans who go vote. They're just the ones who are the most active, take the biggest part in primaries.

[snip]

RUSH: Kathy in Fort Worth, Texas, you are next.

CALLER: Hello. I want to know how the Republicans don't need Christians and conservatives and they think we're 30%, 12% black people in the population, 10% they claim homosexuals in the population. Rush, honey, when did 30% get to be a small number?

RUSH: I think it's actually larger than 30%. But let me see if I can get your question right. You want to know why the Republicans are willing to say, screw you to 30% or more of their voters, and yet Democrats will bend over, grab the ankles, say have your way with me for 10% and 2% of the population?

CALLER: Delicately, yes.

RUSH: Well, nothing delicate about me on these matters. These are just innocent figures of speech --

CALLER: I understand.

RUSH: -- that I was using. There is an answer to your question. Basic question is: Why don't the Democrats say to hell with you, you wacko nuts in the base, like Republicans do.Rockefeller GOP Aims to Eliminate the Conservative Wing of the Party (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_062308/content/01125106.guest.html)

The Pubs are willing to throw away a major constituency in order to appeal to the "moderates" and the "uncommitted", but the RATs suck up to every liberal microminority in order to get their votes. They don't give a schitte if they're 0.001% of the population.

And the GOP wonders why it's tanking.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I happened to be running to the grocery store and post office yesterday when I heard this very exchange on the radio. Thanks for posting this Doc!

QUOTE From the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show (transcript):
"You might be saying, "Well, don't the pro-lifers donate a lot of money to the Republicans?" Yeah. Yeah, they do, but it still embarrasses them, it still embarrasses a lot of the country club Rockefeller types. The Democrats, what are they embarrassed about? They're not embarrassed about anything. The Democrats have never set any standards for themselves. As far as they're concerned, everybody is a victim, even on their side."

[BarkleUSA]

McCain's strategy is based on the assumption that conservatives are going to vote GOP so why not pick up as many votes from the left as possible. If there were a viable conservative third party he wouldn't get away with this crap but the reality is he can.

[RogerFGay]

Well, if I started a thread based on my response, somebody might try to put it in a wacko forum. But at least the basics have been established here, in a way that I expect people don't doubt; especially since it has the Rush seal of approval.

Rockerfellers are on both sides of the aisle, as you known. Certainly their core interest has nothing to do with political parties and ideology. The family is interested in the wealth and power of the family - that is their core politics. That's it. Saying the Rockerfeller wing of the Republican Party is taking over is saying that the Rockerfeller's are doing more to increase their wealth and power. Certainly, a political establishment with international reach is to their advantage; thus, we're becomming less an independent nation and more of a mechanism in an international power play intended to benefit very few.

The trend, which I have seen clearly during my life - no conspiricy "theory" here - just flat out empirically, this is life - democracy in the US doesn't work according to theory. I've blamed it on the two party system, not enough choice to matter. The two parties agree on things in private and the voters don't matter at all. The trend - less and less freedom, elimination of individual rights, concentration of power through political manipulation and corruption. The United States of America, as I knew it growing up, no longer exists.

This thing with the transformation of the Republican Party - just another step in the process. Both parties are moving in the same direction - together - so there's nothing the voters can do to stop it short of changing the constitution or perhaps putting a third party in power under the current system. With the support of the MSM, the two party system is difficult to change.

[RogerFGay]

Speaking of MSM, just read a blog that used a more appropriate term: The lamestream media

Source: http://blogwonks.com/2008/06/24/journalists-advance-deception/

[TeenageRepublican]

I also heard it while doing my morning routine (yes, I got my ass out of bed at noon that day). I thought Kathy brought up a great point.

[PaulRevere]

I agree with everyone's comments, although I see one error in the analysis: black make up 12% of the population but at least 20% of the Rat vote. This is crucial in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, perhaps also Illinois and others, which in many years would be quite red without them.

[Not_A_Libscum]

McCain's strategy is based on the assumption that conservatives are going to vote GOP so why not pick up as many votes from the left as possible. If there were a viable conservative third party he wouldn't get away with this crap but the reality is he can.

Juan McCain, like most Libscum, (Republican or Democrat), have miss-calculated in my case.

[DesertFox]

The Republican Party is moving away from the Perot crowd. We need our own Party, our own platform, our own fundraising, our own media outlets, for those of us who openly and unembarrassedly believe in God, who unabashedly love America, who detest the stench of the cultural sewer, who believe people should proudly stand on their own feet, who contend that we need a powerful military, who would smash those who sneer at us, who would subject even the powerful to the reach of justice, who argue that judges have no place in the political sphere, who see govt and homegrown traitors as the greatest threats to individual liberty ...

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

The Republican Party is moving away from the Perot crowd. We need our own Party, our own platform, our own fundraising, our own media outlets, for those of us who openly and unembarrassedly believe in God, who unabashedly love America, who detest the stench of the cultural sewer, who believe people should proudly stand on their own feet, who contend that we need a powerful military, who would smash those who sneer at us, who would subject even the powerful to the reach of justice, who argue that judges have no place in the political sphere, who see govt and homegrown traitors as the greatest threats to individual liberty ...

Where do I sign up? :thumb:

[Suzie]

Rockefeller GOP Aims to Eliminate the Conservative Wing of the Party (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_062308/content/01125106.guest.html)



Wouldn't be the first time he himself succeeded at doing that if it happens. He was Governor here once.

[Taylor1]

The Republican Party is moving away from the Perot crowd. We need our own Party, our own platform, our own fundraising, our own media outlets, for those of us who openly and unembarrassedly believe in God, who unabashedly love America, who detest the stench of the cultural sewer, who believe people should proudly stand on their own feet, who contend that we need a powerful military, who would smash those who sneer at us, who would subject even the powerful to the reach of justice, who argue that judges have no place in the political sphere, who see govt and homegrown traitors as the greatest threats to individual liberty ...

Wow, I feel the same way, ESPECIALLY powerful military ESPECIALLY. Is it up to us to go make history or something?

[Riverboat]

This was the DARNDEST coincidence! I was listening to Rush pontificate on Mickey Edwards as I was on my way to the library to return a book by Edwards - Reclaiming Conservatism: How a Great American Political Movement Got Lost - And How It Can Find Its Way Back.

After two weeks I never got past page 25. I picked it up dozens of times to read it, but I kept losing interest. My instincts were kicking in after page one that this was going nowhere. Perhaps I just need to concentrate a little harder, I thought. At some point I began to realize that I didn't want to read it because it was UNREADABLE. Prose supports ideas and vice-versa. If there's nothing worth saying, the writing will reflect it. Imagine my astonishment when I heard Rush talking about the very same person, and drawing the same conclusions.

So, if you ever see this book, don't bother. Lucky for me, I found a much more readable book in the new books section.

Multiple choice: Which book better reflects your views?


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[Suzie]

Multiple choice: Which book better reflects your views?


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She reflects my views on the election....

During the Q-and-A portion, Coulter said that she would “vote against Obama. I voted for Bob Dole; it’s not a vivid memory, but I did it.” (http://www.newuniversity.org/main/article?slug=coulter_causes_controversy155)

[Beowulf]

Rockefeller GOP Aims to Eliminate the Conservative Wing of the Party (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_062308/content/01125106.guest.html)

The Pubs are willing to throw away a major constituency in order to appeal to the "moderates" and the "uncommitted", but the RATs suck up to every liberal microminority in order to get their votes. They don't give a schitte if they're 0.001% of the population.

And the GOP wonders why it's tanking.

And yet people will still vote for McPain despite knowing they will again be spit on. I won't be one of em.

[Suzie]

Then vote against Obama like Ann Coulter is doing. Surely you don't think she would do it if Obama wasn't far worse?

[Riverboat]

Well, she said she'd vote for Hillary if McCain got the nomination. For whom will she vote now that Hillary has bailed?

[Suzie]

She compares McCain to Bob Dole frequently, if you Google Coulter Bob Dole you can see many references. She says she voted for Bob Dole so it seems she will tick the ballot against Obama with McCain, just as I will.

[Riverboat]

Interesting. I've been making that comparison myself for months now.

Is it too late for a Draft Ann For President movement?

[Suzie]

Is it too late for a Draft Ann For President movement?

I think it's just too late ... period. :(

[Maggie_T]

Where do I sign up, Boat? :claps:

Ann would be the first president with real backbone in many years.

But forget it, love. You'll never convince Coulterphobes ... on both sides of the aisle. :(

[Lazarus]

McCain's strategy is based on the assumption that conservatives are going to vote GOP so why not pick up as many votes from the left as possible. If there were a viable conservative third party he wouldn't get away with this crap but the reality is he can.He's right, Bark... And he can get away with it because such a large portion of the Conservative base has been conditioned over years to vote like Pavlov's Dog... Just hold up a picture of a Democrat, say "Ooooo Scarey Scarey...", and they will vote for anyone, or anything, in a Republican suit...

Its what McCain and his OLD friends are betting on...

[Lazarus]

The Republican Party is moving away from the Perot crowd. We need our own Party, our own platform, our own fundraising, our own media outlets, for those of us who openly and unembarrassedly believe in God, who unabashedly love America, who detest the stench of the cultural sewer, who believe people should proudly stand on their own feet, who contend that we need a powerful military, who would smash those who sneer at us, who would subject even the powerful to the reach of justice, who argue that judges have no place in the political sphere, who see govt and homegrown traitors as the greatest threats to individual liberty ...That's worthy of my vote for Poster of the Month if nothing else... Well said, brother...:claps::claps::claps: