Dems release plan to help at the pump. Step 1: Raise taxes

[MSGT]

Idea of gas-tax holiday runs into a dead end

Talk now is to raise tax a dime a gallon to fund road improvements

WASHINGTON - The political vision of a summer gas tax holiday died a quick death in Congress, losing to a view that federal excise taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel will have to go up if they go anywhere.Despite calls from the presidential campaign trail for a Memorial Day-to-Labor Day tax freeze, lawmakers quickly concluded — with a prod from the construction industry — that having $9 billion less to spend on highways could create a pre-election specter of thousands of lost jobs.
Now, lawmakers quietly are talking about raising fuel taxes by a dime from the current 18.4 cents a gallon on gasoline and 24.3 cents on diesel fuel.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25751775/

[PaulRevere]

Gee, didn't see that one coming! [sarcasm/off]

[DoctorDoom]

Breathes there a CommuRAT whose sole purpose in life is not to f**k the taxpayers in every possible way?

I hope they jack it up by a buck a gallon. When the elections roll around and the nation's drivers are paying $5-$6 per gallon because of libeRATs, the GOP will have to strive mightily to lose (although they are talented that way).

[MSGT]

Democrats are the party for the poor....the poor terrorist, poor caribou, poor spotted owl....

[Wolfcounsel]

"When the elections roll around and the nation's drivers are paying $5-$6 per gallon because of libeRATs, the GOP will have to strive mightily to lose (although they are talented that way)." --DoctorDoom

The GOP will bend over forward to accommodate the leftist skunks.<!-- / message -->

[The_Sonarman]

Dems release plan to help at the pump, step 1, raise taxes

Step 2, repeat Step 1

[DeclinetoState]

This thread probably should be merged with

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=61574

and/or

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=61580

Although having three threads going about how Congress is planning to screw us may be what is needed to get the lurkers who drift in here from time to time to see what's happening and actually get angry and try to do something.

[Beowulf]

Go ahead, Libs, raise gas taxes right before an election. You will be filling Pelosi's promise of change. Hopefully the voters will see you all for what you really are.....farking scumbags!!:flame:

[Maggie_T]

[b]

Step 2, repeat Step 1

And then, start over again. :biggrin:

Higher taxes: liberals' "solution" to everything.

[The_Sonarman]

A Democrat's Instruction Book on "The Economy".

Condition: High Unemployment
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Low Unemployment
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Interest Rates soaring
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Interest Rates falling
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: High Fuel Prices
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Low Fuel Prices
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Global Warming
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Global Cooling
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Country at War
Solution: Raise Taxes

Condition: Country at Peace
Solution: Raise Taxes

If I've left anything out, the Solution remains the same. A Democrat's first action will always be to Raise Taxes.

[Maggie_T]

Condition: total bankruptcy (as result of overtaxation).
Solution: Blame Bush.

[The_Sonarman]

No matter who wins the House, Senate or Presidency, the Left's whining will be the same.

" It's Bush's fault "

They'll be using him as an excuse eight years from now.

[Maggie_T]

Eight years? It will be their excuse for eternity. And the average idiot will nod his melon (the term 'head' does not apply) in agreement and blab "Yes, yes, it's all Bush's fault." And then, he'll reach for the remote control, so he can tune in to more important stuff. Like American Idol, or Survivor, or Oprah.

[DoctorDoom]

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[DesertFox]

Democrats are the party for the poor....the poor terrorist, poor caribou, poor spotted owl America-hater.... Fixed.

[Kathy30]

To democrtats yes, raise the gas tax. The goal of democrats is not to make the average person's life better by letting them keep more of what they work for. The goal is to control the average person. Gasoline should cost so much that we're not driving as much, turn down the thermostat, use less, make a smaller carbon footprint. That's the goal so of course they'll raise the gas tax and if it doesn't work, raise it again.

[ldb83]

To democrtats yes, raise the gas tax. The goal of democrats is not to make the average person's life better by letting them keep more of what they work for. The goal is to control the average person. Gasoline should cost so much that we're not driving as much, turn down the thermostat, use less, make a smaller carbon footprint. That's the goal so of course they'll raise the gas tax and if it doesn't work, raise it again.

I think Kathy is pretty correct. Some might actively strive for it. Others are ultimately just indifferent about it. Personally, if I was bothered about changing prices, my consumption habits would probably change. They have a little already.

[Wolfcounsel]

"I think Kathy is pretty correct." --ldb83

She is correct if she believes that democraps are anal-retentive control sonsobitches who deserve a swift kick in the ass on their way out the door.

[DoctorDoom]

Followed by doorknobs impacted in their recta.

RATs have been the sworn, implacable enemies of America for decades. What amazes me is that despite this being the Information Age, the people are still so farking ignorant that they contrinue to vote for the treasonous bastards.

[DesertFox]

After the doorknobs hit them in the recta, they need a good shootin'.

[Maggie_T]

Followed by doorknobs impacted in their recta.

RATs have been the sworn, implacable enemies of America for decades. What amazes me is that despite this being the Information Age, the people are still so farking ignorant that they contrinue to vote for the treasonous bastards.


Because democreeps continue to promise them everything. And unfortunately for the country, the average Joe has become too stupid and too lazy to fend for himself. He bought into the Nanny Government fantasy and now wants everything for nothing. He's "entitled," you see.

[Beowulf]

Personally, if I was bothered about changing prices, my consumption habits would probably change. They have a little already.

As have mine, 83, but for some, that's not an option. The self-employed who rely on their pick-ups everyday for their jobs, big rigs who deliver our goods, police and fire departments who have to be on the ready or on patrol. The list is endless.

I know alot of people point the finger at America for consumption but how we forget that India and China are growing faster than we are, buying more and tapping into more reserves.

I suppose that self-righteous Julian over at your house (Fundies) thinks differently, eh?

[Lazarus]

...lawmakers quickly concluded — with a prod from the construction industry — that having $9 billion less to spend on highways could create a pre-election specter of thousands of lost jobs...Compare those lost jobs to the reaction of millions of American voters when they see the Dems actually RAISING the cost of the gasoline that is already strangling America...

That's just the kind of raw stupidity that Democrats use as logic in their twisted skulls... I'm with Doc - I hope they raise it a dollar a gallon and the quicker they do it, the better...

Sadly, I fear the Pubs, instead of using this issue to BE the opposition party, will hop on the "me too" bandwagon... That's about all they are up to today...

[ldb83]

As have mine, 83, but for some, that's not an option. The self-employed who rely on their pick-ups everyday for their jobs, big rigs who deliver our goods, police and fire departments who have to be on the ready or on patrol. The list is endless.

Yes, I know a lot of workers can't trade in their trucks for bikes, but a lot of the burden of higher fuel prices is passed on to their customers. Businesses do what they must to stay in business.

I know alot of people point the finger at America for consumption but how we forget that India and China are growing faster than we are, buying more and tapping into more reserves.

Yeah, pointing the finger doesn't make much sense. It's like blaming a kid raised on a McDonald's diet for being fat. The opportunity for the U.S. to grow was there, and like any other rational people, we took it. But with the "Rise of the Rest," our opportunities change. It won't matter who occupies the White House and Congress when it comes to the growth of other nations; China and India will continue to grow way faster than the U.S., and at first, the new circumstances will seem unfair. But over time, even people with the loudest complaints seem to adapt.

[Maggie_T]

I suppose that self-righteous Julian over at your house (Fundies) thinks differently, eh?

His name is Julian? Oh, please. Just when you thought things could NOT get worse. :rolleyes:

[Beowulf]

His name is Julian? Oh, please. Just when you thought things could NOT get worse. :rolleyes:

Hey, he's an Aussie so what do you expect. I've challenged him to come here to test his "superior" debating skills but he won't even try. Besides, he can't debate without language and insult.

[Maggie_T]

Ah, yes. When you can't win an argument, swear at and insult your opponent. Typical lefty "debating skills."

[DoctorDoom]

A question for the "alternative energy" wackos: which of these two is more environmentally benign? Is it one nuke on a hundred acres or so?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Energy-Eco/Nuke.jpg

Or is it tens of thousands of these strewn over many square miles?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Energy-Eco/AltPass2.jpg

In the year 2004, wind energy in California produced 4,258 million kilowatt-hours of electricity, about 1.5 percent of the state's total electricity. That's more than enough to light a city the size of San Francisco.Overview of Wind Energy in California (http://www.energy.ca.gov/wind/overview.html)

Run the numbers: 4,258 million kilowatt-hours divided by 8,760 hours/year = 0.486 million KW average power. Therefore in 2004 all the windmills in California generated about half the power of one 1000-MW nuke. So is it worth dotting the landscape with over 13,000 noisy, ugly windmills to avoid building one nuke?

The article also, probably inadvertently, demonstrates why wind cannot possibly be used for base-load generation.

Utility-scale wind farms are generally located in areas with average annual wind speeds of at least 13 miles per hour. Wind power is more available during certain seasons because climatic conditions affect wind speed. In California, wind speeds are highest in the hot summer months, and approximately three-fourths of all annual wind power output is produced during the spring and summer.Can the US rely for its base-load needs on a source where three-fourths of the annual total is generated in spring and summer?

I'm in favor of exploiting all sources of electrical energy, but any imbecile who thinks that oil and coal can be rendered obsolete in the next several decades also believes in the Tooth Fairy.

And don't even mention solar.

[dPrasse]

High prices lead to less gas being used , leading to less fuel tax money , putting less money in the Highway Trust Fund ..

The trust fund went from 10 million surplus in 2005 to a 3 million dollar def in 2009 ...

Not a single Democrat would come on Fox News to discuss their plans ...

Any single person mumbling about gas prices and still voting for any of those fat cat socialist democrats ought to be run out of this country to Europe ...

[dPrasse]

DOH !! I see this was covered already ...

[DeclinetoState]

This makes this only about the fourth or fifth thread started on the topic . . .

[dPrasse]

Well , it should be an election defining topic ... Should be brought to Americans attention every morning , noon and night ...

Now if we can get McCain to stop admiring Obama ...

[RogerFGay]

Democrats are the party for the poor....the poor terrorist, poor caribou, poor spotted owl....

Democrats support poor people by assuring their poverty and increasing their number.

[Lazarus]

...Now if we can get McCain to stop admiring Obama ...We have officially arrived at the Twilight Zone, Bro...

[Naturalized-Texan]

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