Adm Moorer claims war with China within two years

[2nd_Amendment]

I don't usually link anyones advertisements but Moorer is sufficiently credible to warrant this one...

Moorer Says China Plans War With US In Two Years
NewsMax.com Presidential Briefing: China Plans War
By Admiral Thomas Moorer 60 Minutes Audiotape 4-10-1
Just released - China is planning on a major war with the US in the
next two years. That is the conclusion of Admiral Thomas H. Moorer.

This new audiotape is available at http://www.newsmax.com/jump/moorer.htm

Moorer is the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation's
highest-ranking military officer. He has advised no less than seven U.S.
presidents.

Moorer was chairman in the early 1970s when Pres. Nixon "opened up" China.
He
has dealt with China in three wars and commanded the Pacific Fleet.

In a stunning one-hour audiotape exclusive to NewsMax.com readers, Adm.
Moorer gives a complete briefing on the danger posed by China, the same type
of briefing he gave to U.S. presidents.

You can get this tape by clicking here: http://www.newsmax.com/jump/moorer.htm

In this audiotape Moorer discusses:

* Why China's hostage taking fits with their strategy of defeating the U.S.
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He explains what steps must be taken now to stop China's military build-up
and prevent a war * Why he believes a conflict with China over Taiwan is
inevitable * His view that a major war with China could erupt in two short
years * Why such a war would likely lead to the use of atomic weapons by
both
sides * Details of China's emergence as a global nuclear superpower, thanks
to Bill Clinton * The fact that China's has new bases in both the Panama
Canal and the Bahamas, allowing them to covertly strike every U.S. city with
atomic weapons delivered by their large arsenal of short and medium range
missiles * China's desire to challenge the U.S. on every continent - and
their active use of illegal immigration and the arming of Marxist guerillas
in Central America as a means to that end

In this special Presidential Briefing, Adm. Moorer explains why Gen.
MacArthur's warnings about China were prophetic. Moorer warns that a new
nexus between Russia and China now threatens the balance of world power, and
fears that one or more conflicts may face America in the next few years.

[DesertFox]

The Chinese resent the whole damn world, don't fear losing a billion people in a shootout and just stole themselves nuclear superpower status. What made them quiescent before was weakness. Now they're not so weak and their natural Communist aggressiveness is showing.

Two years? Depends on whether we can be ready in two years.

[Warlady]

I think the timing hinges on what does regarding Taiwan, arms sales to rogue countries or if they continue to harass our recon flights. They definitely need an attitude adjustment. So I agree with him that an armed confrontation of some kind is inevitable. This is a great argument for a missile defense system and rebuilding the military that Clinton desecrated, demoralized etc.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Makes one hell of a good case for arming Taiwan to the teeth. Hai?

What about Japan?? Will they help or hinder us?? images/icons/confused.gif

[2nd_Amendment]

Japan knows upon which side its bread is buttered. And the simple fact is sitting under the shadow of Mainland China, even if they allied China or remained nuetral, should the US lose any conflagration they would be next. China is hungry, and allies are a good meal once their purpose is served.

Better to get the fight done now, win or lose, than sit under their shadow waiting for them to swoop in...or worse, demand things Japan can't give. I think Russia may wind up feeling the same way. It's nice to help fellow Commies I'm sure, but it's nicer to see such a large potential enemy crushed. Crushed before they whip everyone else and can turn their sole attention upon Mother Russia.

Just my two cents.

[Warlady]

I doubt Japan will ever forget Hiroshima. They will stay with Daddy discipline.

[The_RANDy_Corporation]

The Chinese won't forget Nanking either. Japan will side w/ us out of fear of the chinese.
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WARNING! REALLY GROSS PICTURE BELOW TO ILLUSTRATE THE LACK OF FRIENDLINESS BETWEEN JAPAN AND CHINA. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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http://www.guntruths.com/Resource/images/heads.gif

In mid-December, 1937, the Japanese army invaded China and overran Nanking. They disarmed its one million inhabitants, then embarked on a six-week campaign of terror, bloodshed and death.

Nanking's helpless citizens were subjected to the most heinous abuse: the fortunate ones were used for bayonet practice, decapitated in beheading contests, burned to death, or machine-gunned by the tens of thousands. They were fortunate because they died quickly.

The unfortunate ones were tortured to death, buried alive or subjected to deadly "medical experiments." Tens of thousands of young girls, pregnant women -- even elderly grandmothers -- were brutally and repeatedly raped, often until they hemorrhaged to death, or were mutilated in unspeakable fashions. Unborn babies were hacked out of wombs and bayoneted for sport.

The Japanese army killed up to 500,000 innocent Nanking residents. Japan has yet to acknowledge, not to mention atone for, this atrocity.

Think about this the next time Japan suggests civilized societies should not be armed.

By Steven A. Silver

Factual Source: The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II, by Iris Chang, Basic Books, ISBN 0465068359

Guntruths.com (http://www.guntruths.com/Resource/Posters/japan_is_leading_un_gun_control_.htm)

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Although I agree with the notion of an imminent confrontation with China, I would be hestitant about taking Moorer's statements all that seriously. Wasn't he the source for that infamous CNN Tailwind story on the use of poison gas against US defectors in Vietnam? Moorer must be nearing 90 years old. And while age does not automatically denote senility, an interview of Moorer (from a nursing home) about five years ago showed a man who seemed to be a bit "confused" about things.

[RocketScience]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sorehead:
Makes one hell of a good case for arming Taiwan to the teeth. Hai?

What about Japan?? Will they help or hinder us?? images/icons/confused.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Japan doesn't have much of an armed forces. Since WWII it's been restricted to a defensive posture only. I think they are in the process of changing thier constitution to allow for acquisition of a more credible force.

Anybody have any more on this point?

[RocketScience]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Geldhaben:
Although I agree with the notion of an imminent confrontation with China, I would be hestitant about taking Moorer's statements all that seriously. Wasn't he the source for that infamous CNN Tailwind story on the use of poison gas against US defectors in Vietnam? Moorer must be nearing 90 years old. And while age does not automatically denote senility, an interview of Moorer (from a nursing home) about five years ago showed a man who seemed to be a bit "confused" about things.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's right, he was the source. And you're also right about the fact that the journalists in question deliberately tried to confuse him in their questions. They had an anti-military agenda.

I heard some time back that Maj General Perry Smith, who was a CNN commentator during Desert Storm, quit his job in protest over what he felt was an intentional, biased "hatchet job" by the stories writers.

As to the 2 year estimate, that seems slightly unreasonable to me, but if the administration has it on good evidence from it's intel sources that it could come that quick, GW better get on his horse over manning up the military, pronto.

I wouldn't move to the West Coast any time soon, either (although they should be able to accurately hit targets in Georgia and the east coast very soon what with the rocket and warhead technology Wild Bill passed during his administration)!

Anybody interested in going into the partnership formulation of "bombshelter,com?"

[DesertFox]

There already is such a company. It makes complete bomb shelters underground (fabricates the unit and then buries it). I don't know name of the outfit, but saw them on a special a few years ago. They make models in something like 6-month and 1-year capacities.

I do think we'll have a nuclear exchange with the ChiComs in a few years.

[DesertFox]

This may be prescient in light of Randy's post (http://208.185.249.64/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=011415) that China had a role in the 9-11 attack.