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oracle
04-19-2001, 11:03 AM
Reagan as Role Model (http://www.msnbc.com/news/561302.asp)
George W. takes his cues from the Gipper

Martha Bryant

George W. Bush took another extended weekend on his Texas ranch over Easter, his third trip to Crawford in as many months. The press, camped out an hour away in Waco, hardly saw him for three days. “What does he do out there?” one former Clinton aide asked me recently. He rests, exercises, reads (at the moment he’s reading a mystery) and usually clears away the cedar thicket around his property.

REMEMBERING RONALD REAGAN’S wood chopping days at his beloved ranch north of Santa Barbara— and the image of an affable but hands-off president that came with it—the aide marveled: “My God, he’s just like Reagan.”

When George W. first took office there were inevitable comparisons to Bush I. Not only does Bush the Younger have his father’s looks and his gift for garble, but many of the Elder’s team—Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice—re-enlisted for Bush II. Cheney, for one, balked at the comparison. “You could just as easily say we are bringing back the Ford administration,” the vice president has said. True, he, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul O’Neill were all prominent in the Ford administration.

But now it seems that if Bush II has a political mentor it is the Gipper. Not only does George W. strike the same Western pose as Reagan, but his administration’s approach to policy and public relations are out of Reagan’s play book—literally. Karl Rove, Bush’s chief strategist, is a voracious student of the Reagan era; he’s quizzed Reagan media guru Michael Deaver both during the campaign and in recent months about how they pulled off the so-called Reagan Revolution. Deaver has been an occasional adviser to the Bushies, as has Martin Anderson, Reagan’s domestic and economic policy adviser. Rove’s plan for Bush’s first 100 days is a mirror of Reagan’s: choose a few things and stay focused on them.

“From a communications standpoint, this administration is taking more lessons from the Reagan White House than any other,” says Deaver, whose book “A Different Drummer,” a personal account of his 30-year relationship with Reagan, comes out Friday. Both presidents have similar pet policies: tax cuts, trimming the budget, even missile defense, though star wars is a lower priority for Bush, whose dearest issue is education. “Like Reagan, Bush has a few clear priorities. If you ask Americans today what George Bush believes in, they’d say a tax cut,” Deaver says.

Their governing styles are even more alike: they both delegate. That has translated into a popular media image of W and the Gipper as dumb and out-to-lunch. Reagan’s napping and Bush’s early to bed routine don’t help matters. Early reports that Bush was working out mid-morning when a man with a gun was shot outside the White House only made the president seem more like a slacker.

Anderson says that both men have been misunderstood because they don’t micromanage and they share credit. Reagan had a famous plaque on his desk that read: “There’s no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn’t mind who gets the credit.” In the book he co-edited, “Reagan In His Own Hand,” Anderson compiled a revealing collection of Reagan’s writing. The book has done more to counter the image of Reagan as a manipulated dolt than probably any other publication. The most famous anecdote is Reagan’s decision to keep the immortal line “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” in his Berlin Wall speech—despite the urging of his aides not to use it. As Anderson remembers it, Reagan asked aide Ken Duberstein, who had been sent to convince him to leave it out, “Am I the president?” “Yes sir,” Duberstein replied. “Then I guess it stays,” the Gipper said.

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Lyta_Alexander
04-20-2001, 06:06 PM
Hey Oracle actually I see lots of Ronnie in Dubya LOTS

Not only his mannism oh sure I see George Sr in Dubya too but lots of mannism but I hear story that Dubya used hang out at WH with his Dad during Reagan administration

**DONOTDELETE**
04-24-2001, 08:05 PM
IF George the II is anything like Reagan then we're all due for a grand recession, unless you're a defense contractor or an oil guru.

Ironic that when Reagan took office was about the same time that the Bush's were pulling off their savings and loans heists. Now that Bush II is in, our 401 K's are in jeopardy, simply because Bush II, like Reagan, is trying the Reagan "Economic Dunkirk" theory. The more he badmouths the economy, the more stocks tumble, and hard working Americans money is vanishing.

While Reagan had a point, to a point, Bush II clearly has no idea, moreover, no psychic hotline connection, to predict exactly what effect his words have on the economy. For Reagan the choice was simple. There was only one way to go, and that was up. For Bush, when Americans 401K's are bankrupt, maybe then he'll have an idea what impact his off the cuff remarks have made.

To compare Bush II to Reagan, the resemblance lies not how he stands, or what he does on the weekends, or what he wears, but more along the lines that both seem to be and or have been puppet Presidents, acting not on their own initiatives, but that of corporate and rich friends interests.
That is a more likely comparison.

Patriotically,

Warlady
04-25-2001, 07:00 AM
Smug, I see you finally made bail. As usual your data is incorrect. You're behind in your democrat script programming. The Dems aren't using the "talking down the economy" excuse anymore. And if telling the truth about Clinton's economy can talk it down then we could easily talk it back up no? How little you know about how the economy works. Sad really.

The economy flourished under Reagan it's just that the Democrat controlled Congress outspent the revenues 3-1. Reagan had a big fish to fry called the Soviet Union and a military to rebuild from the Carter fiasco.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-25-2001, 08:39 AM
AKA....welcome...you been in jail again?
I need me a liberal to beat on in these forums.

oracle
04-25-2001, 10:17 AM
Akasmug,

Try getting some facts before posting. The economy was on the decline long before Bush took office. Greenspan and the Fed have been working to cool off the economy since mid-1999. When this effort intersected with the raise in oil prices at the beginning of 2000, the economy started tanking. The NASDAQ which had reached an all time high of almost 5100 plunged to nearly 2400 by the end of the year.

The fact remains that the democrats have been doing far more badmouthing of the economy than Bush has. Bush has talked about avoiding an economic meltdown, about his faith in the economy and the people. Meanwhile the Democrats are running around saying the economy may not be as good as the Democrats were bragging about during the election. The Democrats have been saying the Bush tax cut will cause a return to deficit spending (which is a lie). Early in January, before Bush was sworn in, Dick Gephardt talked about the "looming recession." Clearly the Democrats have been spreading economic fear as a means to undercut Bush.

So you are an ex-con. This explains why you are out of touch with reality. The image of Reagan as a puppet who simply parroted words that others wrote for him has been shown to be false. Reagan was his own man with an understanding of the world that many would envy.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-27-2001, 05:34 PM
Ak hit the nail on the head, as usual. GW Bush's talking down the economy hurt the nation, for W's political gain. But it's ok to terrify working folk, and blue haired ladies, for the good of the GOP? I think not. Is GW already nervous about being a one term failure like Daddy? It appears so.

oracle
04-29-2001, 10:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spike Hollywood:
Ak hit the nail on the head, as usual. GW Bush's talking down the economy hurt the nation, for W's political gain. But it's ok to terrify working folk, and blue haired ladies, for the good of the GOP? I think not. Is GW already nervous about being a one term failure like Daddy? It appears so.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bush did not talk down the economy, the economy was already in a state of decline and he simply addressed the issue. What hurt the nation was high-energy prices and the Fed increasing interest rates.

Even if he wanted to, Bush never had an chance to scare people and old ladies because of all of Gore's running around shouting that Bush wanted to destroy Social Security and to sell blacks back into slavery. Fear, terror, and lies have been the only weapons in the DNCs campaign arsenal for years; finally people are waking up to this and showing those losers to the door. Like the Russians, liberals will end up on the trashheap of history.

Warlady
04-29-2001, 10:32 PM
Did they revoke Smug's bail gain???? Damn.

**DONOTDELETE**
06-10-2001, 10:59 PM
I think the liberals are forgetting that some of us actually remember the eighties. Great time for me. I am so glad GW is president because I can actually call my daughter into the room to discuss issues without having to talk about oral sex and the definition of is. Ronnie will truly go down in history as the greatest president of the 20th century. I miss Ronald Reagan and I wish he was well enough to comment about Bill Clinton. Now that would be a treat!