Should a woman always take her husband's last name?

[Suzie]

What do you think? Should a woman always take her husbands last name? She is supposed to be with him, forsaking all others,but does that mean she has to take his name? I mean if Jack Lalanne’s wife Elaine can take his last name and become Elaine Lalanne, it seems any one else should be able to do that with no problems:). Do you think there is ever a good reason not to, or are you someone who thinks it should never be done at all? What is the conservative woman’s view?

[CatKozTX]

I think that yes, you should. I think it is just the proper thing to do. If you are willing to take the man, you should certainly be willing to take the name.

OTOH, if you ever find yourself divorced, I don't think you should hesitate to lose your exhusbands name either! http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

[Rink]

I'd be Honored to take the man I love's last name as my own.

[DesertFox]

This is something that never mattered to me. The latin culture has what I think is the perfect solution to the question. Hispanic women never abandon their own name. If the husband's name is Smith, they simply append "of Smith," meaning "wife of Smith." Hence "Sarah Jane Jones" would become "Sarah Jane Jones of Smith."

Similarly, the kids have both the father's AND mother's surnames. If the patronym is Jones and the matronym Smith, the kid becomes, for example, Gary Bill Jones Smith. He just uses Jones for most things, but anything formal calls for both names being used. This also obviates the use of "Junior" since father and son seldom have the same matronym.

[TheRealLobo]

Let me blow you all away.

My last name used to be "Smith".

After spending time with my wife's family, particularly her parents, I found the family I had always wanted (some day I'll tell you the horror stories of my childhood). I decided to ask her mom and dad if they would mind if I had my name legally changed to THEIR last name. About two years after we were married, we all had our last name legally changed to HER maiden name.

Though it does make for interesting discussions sometimes when I introduce my mother-in-law and father-in-law as (blank) and (blank) (lastname) and the last name is the same as mine.

Many people just figure we're from Alabama and leave it at that. http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

[DesertFox]

That's a neat real-life human interest story, Lobe. I like you even better now than before.

[dPrasse]

In "Old Germany" , if thewoman owned the property , then that is the name that went on ....... several "non-Prasse" brothers married the same Prasse woman in Germany in the early - mid 1800's ....

so , it should be Arnold Shriver !!
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dP

[Suzie]

Coolness,Lobo!

As for dropping the last name if you divorce, does that change if you have children?

Would you want to keep the same last name your children have?

[Beowulf]

If one partner wants to change there name, fine. Mrs. Beowulf changed hers and I'm honored she did but I wouldn't have been offended if she didn't. I think it's strictly a personal choice.

Lobo, what you did shows class. I like that.

[gracie_mlc]

Alot of women take both, and use their maiden name as their middle name. But i couldn't do that because my maiden name is EXACTLY half of what my married name is. It's funny, ppl always think it's a typo.

[DesertFox]

My aunt has always used her maiden name as her given name. Her maiden name is Kelley (last name), and she prefers being called Kelley to being called by the name her ma gave her (Noemi). Gal's 85 or 86 and still going strong.

[CaliGirl]

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TheRealLobo said:
Let me blow you all away.

My last name used to be "Smith".

After spending time with my wife's family, particularly her parents, I found the family I had always wanted (some day I'll tell you the horror stories of my childhood). I decided to ask her mom and dad if they would mind if I had my name legally changed to THEIR last name. About two years after we were married, we all had our last name legally changed to HER maiden name.

Though it does make for interesting discussions sometimes when I introduce my mother-in-law and father-in-law as (blank) and (blank) (lastname) and the last name is the same as mine.

Many people just figure we're from Alabama and leave it at that. http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif



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Well now....Lobo, did you know by doing what you did, you just messed up anyone researching your line of genealogy? http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smack.gif That is OK. I don't think you are in my line anyway! http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rotflmbo.gif

BTW...bet your in-laws were thrilled?

[CaliGirl]

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Suzie said:
What do you think? Should a woman always take her husbands last name? She is supposed to be with him, forsaking all others,but does that mean she has to take his name? I mean if Jack Lalanne’s wife Elaine can take his last name and become Elaine Lalanne, it seems any one else should be able to do that with no problems:). Do you think there is ever a good reason not to, or are you someone who thinks it should never be done at all? What is the conservative woman’s view?

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If you are a well known author before getting married, keep your maiden name, because that is who you are known as.

[TheRealLobo]

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Well now....Lobo, did you know by doing what you did, you just messed up anyone researching your line of genealogy? http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smack.gif That is OK. I don't think you are in my line anyway! http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rotflmbo.gif

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Could be. Never will know. We did it when Little Lobo was under a year old. He's now 7 and we're gonna wait a couple more years before we try to explain it to him.

As far as genealogy, with a surname like "Smith" it would have been troublesome regardless. Note that my paternal great-granpap's name wasn't Smith until he hit Ellis Island. It was an un-spellable (is that a word) mixture of consonants with few vowels, and he didn't speak a word of English, so it got changed to Smith. He learned it as he needed it.

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BTW...bet your in-laws were thrilled?

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When I suggested it, Mom and Dad offered to pay for it. They were flattered.

[Peachdiane]

I agree with Cat. A wife is willing to love and take a man for better or worse, for richer or poorer, but she's not sure she wants his name. Eh?? http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon127.gif

Well, if the man was named Praise-God Barebones or his brother who is named If-Christ-Had-Not-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Wouldst-Have-Been-Damned Barebones then it might be a problem. The woman would then become Mrs. If-Christ-Had-Not-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Wouldst-Have-Been-Damned Barebones http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

When I married I took his name and it is Italian though neither one of us is. (He took his stepdad's name) I got tired of having to explain why a white woman had an italian name or that it is pronounced like "Pesci." But, I tolerated it.

Bottom line is, it is a matter of pride. I was proud and happy to show off the fact I was married, and married to that particular person. Taking the name was not a problem. And if I remarry, I'd take the man's name again even though I much like my maiden name.

[kathrinM]

I think it doesn't matter if I take the name of my future husband or not. But I guess it's easier for the kids. As they should have the same name as their Mom and Dad. And unless my husbands name is something noone on earth could spell right I wouldn't even think twice about taking my husbands name. lol

It's never been something I thought about to be honest. But now that it's being mentioned.. hmm.. I'd take my husbands name. Yea.

[DesertFox]

My last name is Rail. In grade school I was in love with a girl named Ginger. Imagine if we had married.

In high school I had a fling with a girl named Gail. *groan*

[Wyatt_Junker]

So Mr. Rail, did you nail Gail?

[DesertFox]

Gail was too frail and pale to nail her tail.

[TheRealLobo]

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DesertFox said:
Gail was too frail and pale to nail her tail.

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In HS dated a girl named Virginia Bush. Her sister was Rose.

I think their parents were a little twisted anyhow. They had a white horse named "Blackie", a black dog named "Pinkie" and a grey cat named "Spot".

[Wyatt_Junker]

In high school there was a kid named Ben Gay III.

Three generations of Ben Gay.

When other kids teased him, I was always there to defend him, "Hey, c'mon. Don't rub it in."

And that's da truth yer honor.

[CatKozTX]

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An old neighbor of mine is named Shirley and her maiden was was Cilley (pronounced "silly") and yes, her Dad was a total and complete moron and asshole. http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Peachdiane]

I have a partial list of real people! http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif These made me giggle the most....can you imagine a guy going around "I'm in love and gonna marry Kitty Peed!"

Or... "Who's your OB?" "Dr. Ovary!" "Eh? Come again?" http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon127.gif

These are found in the John Train books (Remarkable Names of Real People)

Bambina Broccoli, New York City
Mrs Belcher Wack Wack [Miss Belcher married Mr Wack and then married his brother]
Mary Malouf Teabaggy, Boston, Massachusetts.
Orange Marmalade Lemon, Wichita, Kansas.
Mrs. Screech, Singing Teacher, Victoria, British Columbia.
Silence Bellows, Editor (Christian Science Monitor).
Mr. Vice, Malefactor, New Orleans, Louisiana. Arrested 890 times and convicted 421, probably a record (International Herald Tribune).
Dr. Zoltan Ovary, Gynecologist, New York Hospital, New York City.
Anil G. Shitole, Rochester, New York.
Comfort & Safety Bottom, Sisters, Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan.
Constant Agony, Chazy Lake, New York.
Crystal Toot, President, Kansas State PTA.
C. Sharp Minor, Silent Movie Organist, Rochester, New York.
Fairy Clutter, Indiana University of Pennsylvania Women's Club.
Fang W. Wang, Mutual Fund Executive, New York City.
Ginger Screws Casanova, Eureka, California (Eureka Times-Standard).
Heidi Yum-Yum Gluck, Artist, Brooklyn, New York [Mr. Gluck, infatuated by Gilbert and Sullivan, also named his son Nanka, after Nanki-Poo, another character from The Mikado].
Hogjaw Twaddle, Morris Harvey College (University of Charleston), West Virginia.
Pepsi Cola Atom-Bomb Washington, Upper Marlboro, Md [Youngest of twenty-two children].
Lo Fat, Retired Merchant Seaman, New York City.
Needa Climax, Methodist Church Officer, Centerville, Louisiana.
T. Fud Pucker Tucker, Bountiful, Utah.
Kitty Peed, Cape Coral, Florida.

[nosferatuscoffin]

Laf! great ones.

Mrs. Belcher obviously kept the "Wack" "Wack" in the family. I wonder if they named any of there kids, Jack?

One of my relatives from about 1830 or was named Orange Peck. Hehe.

[Peachdiane]

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nosferatuscoffin said:
One of my relatives from about 1830 or was named Orange Peck. Hehe.


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ROFLMAO!

[Suzie]

I knew a Harry Leg, a Bun Crumb and a Patti Haddy. Not to mention Morgan Morgan, which Morgantown is named after.

I also knew a US marshall who's last name was Marshall and he went to Marshall university.

He was Marshall Marshall from Marshall.

[DesertFox]

I read in Reader's Digest years ago about a Johnson & Johnson rep giving a talk in Walla Walla. He started out by telling a little about hizself. Seemed he had a double PhD (chem and physics) and had a normal Arabic name. So he was Doctor Doctor Shalaby Shalaby of Johnson & Johnson in Walla Walla.

[CaliGirl]

LOL to all the funny names!

[SouthernReBelle]

You know, let me get my coworker's diary of unusual names.
One of them (and these are real people she has met) is called Atomic Zagnut. That has to be my favorite!!

LMAOhttp://freeconservatives.com/smilies/doggie.gif

heather

[nosferatuscoffin]

This reminds me of some of the calls that my ex-fiance, who back in the day, worked at Swan Technologies, which was one of the early pioneers of PC mail order shipping back in 80's and early 90's.

Anyway, some of the questions she would get from some Asian callers with a heavy accent, was a hoot.

Examples:

"I am looking to expand my lamb. (Translation: This guy wanted to upgrade the RAM on his PC).

"Do you sell existenstial floppy drives?"

She also had calls from a Hung Lo and a Le Ping Tunng.

It was all she could do to keep from busting out in laughter on the phone. http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Suzie]

There is a Fu Kim Chinese resturant near Ft. Knox. How bad do you think that name gets abused!

[Peachdiane]

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nosferatuscoffin said:
Anyway, some of the questions she would get from some Asian callers with a heavy accent, was a hoot.



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I have a terrible time here understanding the accents. Dry Cleaners and Nail Salon on every corner, literally. Anyway I remember once when I did volunteer work in my college library. An Asian male came to me in the Science dept. and asked for books on Tofu. At least, that's what I thought I heard and I thought "Great...another vegan nut but ok....." I took him way over to the Food section.

He looked sooooo confused and showed me some papers. After leafing through them I realized he wanted books on the TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language). I was soooooo http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon126.gif but now when I hear tofu, I remember this!

[SouthernReBelle]

Alright..

go to www.engrish.com (http://www.engrish.com)

LMAO

heather

[Peachdiane]

http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon133.gif Thanks! Great site!

<font size=1>And the adult stuff is even funnier</font>

[colehart]

If she gets married at 21, she should take his name at least for 21 years since sh'e had her own last name for that many years. http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon76.gif

[Rink]

Why bother?

4. And he answered and said unto them, <font color="red"> have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, </font> 5. <font color="red"> And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? </font> 6. <font color="red"> Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. </font>

In effect a woman taking a man's last name she cleaves to him and becomes one with him just as the man leaves his father and mother and cleaves to his wife.

Simple logic should suffice on why women take their mates last names.

They are one.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

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Suzie said:
There is a Fu Kim Chinese resturant near Ft. Knox. How bad do you think that name gets abused!

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http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon115.gif <font color="blue">Probably not any more than a convenience store I once saw in Northern Missouri, called the "Cum &amp; Go".</font>

[nosferatuscoffin]

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Longhorn_Platinum said:
http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon115.gif <font color="blue">Probably not any more than a convenience store I once saw in Northern Missouri, called the "Cum &amp; Go".</font>

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Clinton must have been a regular at that place.

[Suzie]

My brother dated a girl named Penny Nichols http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Rink]

Heres an interesting story

Men Enter the Name Game

<font size=1>Thursday, November 13, 2003</font>
By Jennifer D'Angelo


These days, when John Smith marries Jane Doe, he might opt to become John Doe. Or John Doe-Smith. Or John Smith Doe.

In the latest departure from traditional marriage (search) procedure, some American men are beginning to take their wives’ last names, either using the woman's name in addition to their own or nixing their given names completely.

“I’ve definitely heard more about both the husband and wife hyphenating," said New Jersey-based wedding expert Sharon Naylor ( search (http://clickit.go2net.com/search?cid=307797&amp;site=srch&amp;area=is.clicktracking&amp; shape=link&amp;cp=info.foxnws&amp;clickurl=http%3A%2F%2Fse arch.foxnews.com%2Finfo.foxnws%2Fredirs_all.htm%3F pgtarg%3Dwbsdogpile&amp;ext_qcat=web&amp;ext_qkw=wedding%2 0expert%20Sharon%20Naylor ) ). "It’s really picked up in the past few years, although it's still a very small number."

Only 20 or 30 years ago, it was difficult for many Americans to accept women hyphenating or opting not to take their husbands' names (think Hillary Rodham Clinton), and it's still taboo in some families. But today, some couples are taking things a step further, sharing names the way they share the household chores.

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