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DoctorDoom
11-18-2003, 09:13 AM
A Palestinian girl who was raped and impregnated by her two brothers was later murdered by her own mother -- even though her daughter was the crime's innocent victim -- in another of the disturbingly common, if vastly underreported, instances of "honor killings."

The mother will be sentenced in two weeks, but a harsh penalty is not expected.

According to a Knight Ridder report, court records show that Rofayda Qaoud was raped by her brothers, Fahdi, 22, and Ali, 20, in a bedroom they shared in the family's three-room house in the town of Abu Qash in the West Bank. When her mother found she had become pregnant, she insisted her daughter commit suicide, and even bought the unwed teen a razor so she could slash her own wrists. When the daughter refused, Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud took matters into her own hands and murdered Rofayda to restore her family's "honor."


Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35663)

Welcome to the wonderful world of Islam, the peaceful, loving religion. Tell us again, all you defenders of the "Palestinians", how they are not barbarians that should be exterminated like rats.

DesertFox
11-18-2003, 06:24 PM
<font size=1>The Muslim Palestinians, anyway</font>

laughin
11-18-2003, 07:32 PM
I read about this today. Apparently the mother was acting on her own. The father told her not to do anything. In fact, a lot of people told her not to do anything, but she got everyone out of the house and then killed her daughter.

I am not saying she was not influenced by her religion, but she was kind of alone in this.

Rink
11-19-2003, 02:01 AM
I think the mother should be killed in the same fashion

Timberwolf
11-19-2003, 09:11 AM
Aaaaah...what a breath of fresh air islam is, eh?? Yup, sure is a proper and good religion that focuses on justice.

DesertFox
11-19-2003, 08:19 PM
It's a relief that the family's, uh, honor has been retrieved.

Now, about those incestuous boys and that murderous mother . . .

CaliGirl
11-19-2003, 10:01 PM
DesertFox said:
It's a relief that the family's, uh, honor has been retrieved.

Now, about those incestuous boys and that murderous mother . . .



It's crazy!

Rink
11-20-2003, 12:24 AM
Why not let the boys have at it at the mother?

since the mother seemed to have sided with the boys.

DesertFox
11-20-2003, 12:54 PM
No Oedipi in that family. Just sister-porkers and daugher-killers, your normal wholesome Islamic family. :rolleyes:

kathrinM
11-20-2003, 02:01 PM
DesertFox said:
No Oedipi in that family. Just sister-porkers and daugher-killers, your normal wholesome Islamic family. :rolleyes:



ya leanin yourself quite much out of the window there DF...

DesertFox
11-20-2003, 07:22 PM
<font size=1>Say what, cutie?</font>

kathrinM
11-21-2003, 09:56 AM
Just that not all islamic families live like that so you can't call it "normal".

I dunno.. just sounds.. mean to say and I dont think its true.

DesertFox
11-21-2003, 10:26 AM
Just engaging in a little hyperbole, ma'am.

kathrinM
11-21-2003, 10:29 AM
Yea ok /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon126.gif

Rink
11-21-2003, 10:05 PM
aww lookit that!! DF made kathrynM blush hee hee

kathrinM
11-22-2003, 02:32 AM
Rink said:
aww lookit that!! DF made kathrynM blush hee hee




Yea we saw it *hides under her blankie* lol

DeclinetoState
11-26-2003, 02:06 PM
Not all Muslims engage in so-called "honor killings" (and where is the "honor" in all of this?), and not all cultures that condone "honor killings" are Muslim.

In any case, as Paul Harvey sometimes says, "It is not one world." Liberals who preach "tolerance" and "diversity" would do well to remember that.

Rink
11-26-2003, 02:56 PM
I know some South American latin cultures engage in 'honor killings' and sometimes even Meditteranean cultures also will do so (in isolated areas)

DesertFox
11-26-2003, 08:06 PM
Which South American cultures, Rink?

Rink
11-27-2003, 12:41 AM
I think brazil, or in that area, not sure, some of the latin types get real miffed if their woman even looks at another man

wolfplus3
11-27-2003, 10:20 PM
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it an islamic country that had a fire break out in a girls school.....and the islamic religious police wouldn't let the girls escape the fire because they weren't dressed. So, end result, many of them perished in the blaze cuz they couldn't get on a burkha for Allah.

Pfah!!! This is why I spit on Islamic fanatics.

DesertFox
11-28-2003, 05:53 PM
There was such an incident. I think it was Afghanistan in the Taliban daze.

JourneyMan
11-28-2003, 10:28 PM
It's not Islam, it's the dark ages. They follow their holy book as it is written. If Christians followed the Bible as written, people who enter a temple uncirumsized or men that sleep with menstruating women, among others, would be put to death. Religions have some creepy rules, Islam, as evident here, is no exception. Do you see Islamic people in America doing that? No. It's because our culture doesn't lay in the dark ages - they know that following their religious texts literally is crazy.

Rink
11-28-2003, 10:57 PM
um JourneyMan, you're citing Mosaic law, not Christian Law.

Christ Liberated us from the nitpickings of the Mosaic law, since it was imperfect.

best read the new testament dear, especially before ya open yer mouth on that Christian subject.

DesertFox
11-29-2003, 01:15 AM
Don't be too hard on him, Rink. JourneyMan, like every Lefty I know, can't get past the past.

Rink
11-29-2003, 05:04 AM
seems liberals cant get their facts straight, seems to be an uneducated lot if ya ask me.

mebbe they should go back to school and re-learn the facts and get em straight ?

kathrinM
11-29-2003, 05:54 AM
I don't think that would help. People like JM are simply dumb.

JourneyMan
11-29-2003, 01:05 PM
um JourneyMan, you're citing Mosaic law, not Christian Law.

Christ Liberated us from the nitpickings of the Mosaic law, since it was imperfect.

best read the new testament dear, especially before ya open yer mouth on that Christian subject.



Ah, yes, the old moral relativism fallacy - you shouldn't use that excuse.

That means the Old Testament is imperfect, which means that the writter is imperfect. The writer is allegedly your God. Uh, oh.

So we no longer use mosaic law? Then why do I notice you fine folks consistently citing the Old Testament to bash homosexuals?

Moral relativism is *this close* to being the dumbest excuse Christians use to answer the inconsistency of their religious writings. The first, of course, is the Q doctrine thing - it just makes me chuckle, "Uh, yeah, some anonymous dude wrote it...that's it...yeah."

Either way, you will note that Europe during the Middle Ages, after the birth of Jesus, was very similar. Complete with it's own (mulitple) jihads (crusades.)

I'm sure you disagree, I've Iearned teaching tolerance to you guys is like teaching Spanish to a goldfish. So, c'mon, give me the predictable tirades about how I'm an idiot and we'll consider the matter closed.

kathrinM
11-29-2003, 01:43 PM
The writer of the Old testament is god?

Did you actually EVER open and read a bible? The bible consists of all sort of documents from all sort of different people you midget.

And in contrast to your little liberal beliefs I do tolerate different opinions and religions. But only as far as they don't endanger my life.

If a religion predicts to kill my friends and family (or also my life) then I must say there is no chance I'm going to tolerate it.
If a religion makes people disrespect women and children then I'm not going to tolerate it either.

I tolerate the jewish and respect their religion because they don't endanger my life and are very moral people.
I tolerate buddists. Because they don't fly airplanes in skyscrapers..

I think you see where I'm comming from, JM. Don't you?

DeclinetoState
11-30-2003, 01:07 AM
kathrin, kathrin, kathrin:

Arguing with JM is like trying to shovel manure against an incoming tide. (I've no idea what all that means, but I'm sure some more-or-less appropriate imagery will come to mind.)

You asked Yuk–er, JM: "Did you actually EVER open and read a bible?"

JM sounds a lot like a certain ex-priest in Canada, who probably became an ex-priest (assuming–and it may be a big assumption–he's not lying about even having been a cleric in the first place) because he enjoyed twisting the Bible.

kathrinM
11-30-2003, 06:02 AM
lol

He might jump in as Cartman in southpark "I'm not a ****in Canadian" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Did ya guys actually see that episode of Southpark and Afghanistan.. I laughed a lot lol

Timberwolf
11-30-2003, 03:17 PM
JourneyMan said:
Ah, yes, the old moral relativism fallacy - you shouldn't use that excuse.

That means the Old Testament is imperfect, which means that the writter is imperfect. The writer is allegedly your God. Uh, oh.


Christ was the final PERFECT sacrifice who FULFILLED the Mosaic law. He did not abolish it, he fulfilled it. Through his sacrifice, we now live under Grace...the NEW covenant.


So we no longer use mosaic law? Then why do I notice you fine folks consistently citing the Old Testament to bash homosexuals?


We don't. It is clearly stated in the NEW Testament, also.


Moral relativism is *this close* to being the dumbest excuse Christians use to answer the inconsistency of their religious writings. The first, of course, is the Q doctrine thing - it just makes me chuckle, "Uh, yeah, some anonymous dude wrote it...that's it...yeah."


And your continued bleatings are "this close" to psychosis. Are we to have you committed? You are most certainly certifiably insane.


Either way, you will note that Europe during the Middle Ages, after the birth of Jesus, was very similar. Complete with it's own (mulitple) jihads (crusades.)


Proof of my prior point.


I'm sure you disagree, I've Iearned teaching tolerance to you guys is like teaching Spanish to a goldfish. So, c'mon, give me the predictable tirades about how I'm an idiot and we'll consider the matter closed.


You speak as if INtolerance is a bad thing.

But, okay...you're an idiot. Case closed.

DesertFox
11-30-2003, 03:20 PM
<font size=1>Jason won't be responding</font>

kathrinM
12-01-2003, 11:36 AM
Who is Jason?

Dash_Riprock
12-01-2003, 04:46 PM
Jason Vorhees--the name of the psycho in all of those Friday the 13th movies.

DesertFox
05-04-2006, 12:20 PM
A Natty Bumpo.

cerberus
05-04-2006, 06:05 PM
There was such an incident. I think it was Afghanistan in the Taliban daze. Nope. It was in Saudi Arabia (you know our allies...) during the 90's.

DoctorDoom
05-04-2006, 06:22 PM
There was such an incident. I think it was Afghanistan in the Taliban daze.Friday, 15 March, 2002, 12:19 GMT

Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.

In a rare criticism of the kingdom's powerful "mutaween" police, the Saudi media has accused them of hindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday.

About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm)