Is Male Passivity on the Wane?

[RogerFGay]

Is Male Passivity on the Wane? (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/g/gay/03/gay120503a.htm)

For decades, the feminist vision of the new man dominated the tabloid social revolution in America. The demure male was thought to be a progressive response to modern women who could no longer tolerate enslavement by automatic washing machines, streamlined mega-stores, and frumpy year-old family cars. Fashions change and stable child nurturing wives an old idea.

If your grandfather was divorced, he could probably tell you about the forerunner to the feminist model. Divorced men lost their families, homes, and much of the fruit of their life's work and were expected to keep quiet about it. Before the female male, was the macho man who took it on the chin with silent resignation to the honorable course no matter how much it hurt. It's doubtful anyone knows exactly when it became honorable for men to step aside and continue paying the bills, but it probably had something to do with the age in which our male ancestors worked for money while the women-folk took care of hearth and home.

Despite the fact that a well-adjusted heterosexual male can't catch a break with the old media, the new man is emerging as something other than what was planned. ....

complete article (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/g/gay/03/gay120503a.htm)

[Venus]

YIKES!!!!! Somebody may need to slap me around and bring me to my senses, but I agree with Roger! For once he doesn't appear to be lying and leaving out important facts and, even though the picture he paints may be a little bit 'over the top', I think he's pretty much on target this time!!

Well said, Roger!

I'm completely supportive of a men's movement to remasculate men with attendant rights equal to those enjoyed by women.

Conservababes know that wooses are boors and that real men are deserving of the same respects, consideration, manners and protections that we receive.

[UnrepentantLib]

A true, worthy man is himself -- he's not driven by testosterone, nor is he driven by emasculation, since both are media-made hype images.

A truly worthy man doesn't need to fit into a stereotype, and can simply be himself -- regardless of whether the stereotype is "macho" or "wimpy".

A man who's secure in himself probably falls in between the two extremes. A self-confident man can be fine with not being the strongest guy around, and being able to cry once in a while, and at the same time hating movies with Meg Ryan and wanting to watch sports when their wives want them to mow the lawn. He can dress nicely without having to try and fit a "metrosexual" stereotype, and he doesn't have to pretend to know nothing about clothes and style because it'd be "faggoty" of him.


Trends of self-image are for people who don't have a self-image to start with.

[Beowulf]

I always tell people, what you see is what you get. I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong and I don't mind giving a shoulder to cry on. I might even cry with you. I do ask for help and am not afraid to do so. Even when times are bad, I will make you laugh, just to cheer you up. I'm not perfect but I'm confident. This is who I am.

[Venus]

I disagree, Unrepentant.

Guys who are wimpy usually do lack self-confidence. I also think guys who are overly-macho do, too.

Males aren't wholly driven by testosterone, but it's a biological fact that it drives many of their abilities and activities. That is not to say that they don't have good minds that enable them to use sound judgment in analyzing a situation and thoughtfully using control in choosing a course of action. Their biological make-up is a resource, just as women's is.

You also said: "Trends of self-image are for people who don't have a self-image to start with."

I think somebody can have a good self-image and still want to update their appearance and sharpen up their style if they like the new looks, trends and styles. I agree that it's not faggoty for a man to want to look nice, and I appreciate a well-groomed man.

Anyway, isn't this thread about men taking back their power? That relates to external forces, not internal image issues. I absolutely do think men have been given a raw deal in many areas for the last thirty years or so and I'm sick of the media, various 'social scientists' /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif, the education industry and the advertising industry depicting men as less valuable than women or as helpless idiots.

The truth is women need men, and we need them to be men. Every girl wants and needs a hero. I don't know if that's a biological fact or a learned fact or an emotional fact, but it's a fact and the basis for it is irrelevant.

Let the birds and the bees rule unfettered.

[DesertFox]

Powerfully and truly said, Venus. First rate post.

[ducktapehero]

I cried when I watched Ole Yeller, does that make me a metrosexual?

[DesertFox]

<font size=5>Wuss</font> /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jk.gif

[Rink]

LOL @ DF

[Wyatt_Junker]

Washing down my Viagara with shots of Rogaine has made me one hairy, horny, heap o' humpin' fury. Harder-n-concrete gettin' jackhammered into by a diamond-studded bit. A stud popsicle. A jiggle low. An affection machine on spin cycle. Like Elvis said in a flash of hedonistic inspiration, "I'm a-hunk-a-hunk-a-hunk-a-hunk-a-hunk of burning love.", even as his pelvis exploded onstage due to the internal combustion of pure friction. In fact, they use my testosterone as fuel for Monster Truck Shows. One small vial of it could power all the whorehouses in Laos. Just a lil' dab on each wrist and WHAM, like a professional hunter using the urine of a doe in estrous in order to slay his prey, I got 'em lined up like dominoes for miles.

I'm not passive as much as passive aggressive. I hold doors open for the ladies just enough to let 'em squeeze through like running them through a metal detector. I'm so aggressive, even my doubts exert themselves like bullies. Be thankful you don't have to meet my certainties. When I meet a girl in a bar, if I don't get her phone number on the first try, I'm so aggressive, I use bamboo shoots just under the fingernails. Works every time. Trust me. I'm a player. And chicks dig me like a graveyard full of holes.

[DesertFox]

<font size=1>Dude on a ROLL</font>

[Kathy29]

There is something about a metrosexual male that makes me feel like I' dating a lesbian.

[DesertFox]

Metro is as metro does. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Rink]

Where the hell do these political hacks get these phrases? "Metro-sexual" Indeed, sounds more like a mammas boy to me!!

[TheRealLobo]

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Kathy29 said:
There is something about a metrosexual male that makes me feel like I' dating a lesbian.

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SNORF!!!!!!!!!!!

That's like a guy having a sex change and then becoming a lesbian.