MEDIA BIAS: Fox News CHANGING ARMY OFFICER QUOTES for their own political agenda.

[UnrepentantLib]

Jeff Swisher, U.S. Army Lt. Colonel, according to the Gulf Daily news (A quote which is collaborated by virtually every other major news source:)

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"About 8.30am, a car bomb was detonated at Khaldiyah police station. We have some indication that it's a suicide bomber. But it's too early to give a final judgment," Swisher said.

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Source: here. (http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Articles.asp?Article=69173&Sn=WORL)

However, Fox News reported him as saying the following:

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"About 8:30 (a.m.), a car bomb was detonated at Khaldiyah police station. We have some indication that it's a homicide bomber. But it's too early to give a final judgment," Swisher told reporters at the scene.

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Source: Here. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105704,00.html)


Say what you want about it being a minor change, but it's a political one. Everyone and their mother knows that the average person calls them suicide bombings, but Fox News (and other right wing media) have been pushing to have them called "homicide bombings".


Where the hell does Fox News get off on changing the words of Army officers and putting them in direct quotes to push their political agenda?

I make it a point to read all news sources on all sides of the spectrum, but this counts as LYING TO MY FACE. How can Fox News claim to be a respectable news source when they directly change people's words and say nothing about it?

This ain't right, folks. And if Fox gets allowed to lie about what people really said this time because "it's not a big deal", it'll only be the beginning.

[Warlady]

Oh for Pete's sake. They said months ago that they were going to call them homicide bombers instead of suicide bombers. You are being silly. Also on this topic they reported later in the day that it may have been an accident from Iraqis celebrating and it was too soon to tell.

[oracle]

How do you know that FoxNews is the one that changed his quote? I doubt you were there.

[CaliGirl]

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UnrepentantLib said:

I make it a point to read all news sources on all sides of the spectrum, but this counts as LYING TO MY FACE. How can Fox News claim to be a respectable news source when they directly change people's words and say nothing about it?

This ain't right, folks. And if Fox gets allowed to lie about what people really said this time because "it's not a big deal", it'll only be the beginning.

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[UnrepentantLib]

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How do you know that FoxNews is the one that changed his quote? I doubt you were there.

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Is it possible that Fox News got the quote correct and everyone else got it wrong? Sure. However, it's quite unlikely.

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Oh for Pete's sake. They said months ago that they were going to call them homicide bombers instead of suicide bombers. You are being silly.

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I have no problem with Fox deciding to call them homicide bombers. That's not the issue. The issue is fox [b]CHANGING A DIRECT QUOTE AND ATTRIBUTING IT TO THE SAME SOURCE.[b]

That's a *major* journalistic no-no.

[Apollo5600]

repent are you on drugs?

tell me how big of a difference there is bettween a homicide bomber, and a suicide bomber, and its impact on politics.

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Oh for Pete's sake. They said months ago that they were going to call them homicide bombers instead of suicide bombers. You are being silly.

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p.s you are going to generalize fox news as being biased based on your insanity alone?

fox news is fair and balanced, always has been and hopefully always will be.

if you want to have a debate about media bias in fox news, bring it.

[UnrepentantLib]

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tell me how big of a difference there is bettween a homicide bomber, and a suicide bomber, and its impact on politics.

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THAT IS NOT THE POINT, YOU SIMPLETON. THE POINT IS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO **NOT** CHANGE PEOPLE'S DIRECT QUOTES IN THE NEWS BUSINESS WITHOUT SAYING SO. IT'S BREAKING EVERY TENET OF JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY.

[Apollo5600]

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THAT IS NOT THE POINT, YOU SIMPLETON. THE POINT IS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO **NOT** CHANGE PEOPLE'S DIRECT QUOTES IN THE NEWS BUSINESS WITHOUT SAYING SO. IT'S BREAKING EVERY TENET OF JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY.

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NEWS FLASH

FOX ALERT

didn't they say they were going to start using the term homicide bomber months ago?????

so i say agian, whats the big difference bettween suicide and homicide bomber, and its impact on politics!!!???

and how does this make the entire fox news biased!!!??? how are they being biased!!!!????

[Timberwolf]

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UnrepentantLib said:
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tell me how big of a difference there is bettween a homicide bomber, and a suicide bomber, and its impact on politics.

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THAT IS NOT THE POINT, YOU SIMPLETON. THE POINT IS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO **NOT** CHANGE PEOPLE'S DIRECT QUOTES IN THE NEWS BUSINESS WITHOUT SAYING SO. IT'S BREAKING EVERY TENET OF JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY.

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Alrighty then!!

How about EVERY major news outlet EXCEPT FoxNews taking Newt Gingrich's "wither on the vine" out of context as a DIRECT QUOTE a few years back?

Unknot your knickers, as WL said FoxNews stated months ago (if not a year or better) that it would no longer, FOR ANY REASON, use the term suicide bomber because the perps were committing HOMOCIDE.

Now then, do you care to speak your piece on the Gingrich hit piece or not?

[Apollo5600]

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*edit* I just realised that it said i was replying to repent. This post is directed at wolf.

[nosferatuscoffin]

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UnrepentantLib said:
THAT IS NOT THE POINT, YOU SIMPLETON. THE POINT IS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO **NOT** CHANGE PEOPLE'S DIRECT QUOTES IN THE NEWS BUSINESS WITHOUT SAYING SO. IT'S BREAKING EVERY TENET OF JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY.

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Hey UL, have you ever heard of Maureen Dowd? President Bush has, after she totally moved words and sentences around in her column from one his press conferences back about 2-3 months ago. There was a mini two day stink about it and then it died off.

If someone at Fox News deliberately misquoted that person, then they should be disciplined. However, this kind of stuff happens ALL of the time in the media, print or broadcast. Do not sound so shocked about it.

[lefty]

Are we really going to P.C, the term suicide bomber and turn it into homocide bomber? Why? What a freaking joke!! Fox should be ashamed of that alone, but if they are changing the story, and changing the direct quotes of a person then that does goes against all journalistic integrity and it is undeniably wrong. Just because it happens at other times does not make it right, it is a simple thing not to change someone else's words to fit your own criteria, it is a spineless act to do so.

[nosferatuscoffin]

A suicide bomber is one who hooks himself up with explosives and the only who dies is himself.

A homicidal bomber is one who does the above, but whose goal is to kill as many around as possible.

What do you call the bombers that are reported on a constant basis as?

Suicidal

Homicidal

May the Force guide you in this simple piece of logic.

[Vikingas]

All I know is I see the same event covered by CNN and FOX and the slant of one vs. the other is obvious. I like FOX.

[lefty]

Why if it is so simple has it for years, decades even, been reported as "suicide" and not "homocide" bombings. Why does it suddenly need to be distinguished, are we really so simple as to need another catchy little phrase to add to our speech?

[lefty]

actually ment to reply to nosferatu.

[Apollo5600]

Who cares

unless your afraid calling them homocide bombers will hurt their feelings.

[Wyatt_Junker]

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lefty said:
Why if it is so simple has it for years, decades even, been reported as "suicide" and not "homocide" bombings. Why does it suddenly need to be distinguished, are we really so simple as to need another catchy little phrase to add to our speech?

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We need to be careful with our words.

If it was the intent of the bomber to simply kill themself, then, yes, you have a point. But, if that's not the intent, then it seems the language has been perverted for quite some time in this regard in favor of the manslayers. Here, accuracy in language would favor the correct label of homicide.

Its the same with 'uprising' or 'intifada', which connotate a struggle of the people. Whenever the media chooses to use such diction, they automatically default to the Arab cause doing their apologetics for them via diction.

Case in point and a question to you: What would you prefer to call the 9/11 hijackers if I only gave you two words to choose from, 1)Victims or 2)Murderers???

The choice is yours.

All the while, the term suicide bomber has been purposefully employed to identify with the murderer, spurning the innocent victims of their wholesale slaughter. 'Suicide bomber' is harmless. 'Suicide bomber' could be someone who listened to Ozzy too much. 'Suicide bomber' could be a collegiate who got depressed after bombing his final exams and just took his/her own life. But, a homicidal bomber leaves zero room for misinterpretation. A homicidal bomber arouses no pity, no identification "with their plight", and very little compassion, and for good reason(they don't deserve it). A homicidal bomber is nothing but a murderer who was too uncourageous to face the consequences of their action.

[Wyatt_Junker]

There is no such thing as a "palestinian" 'struggle' of 'the people'. If there were, then how come the Sudanese *who would be justified* never suicide bomb their attackers? Their conditions are much worse than the palestinians' worst nightmare.

Same for the Tibetans.

Same for the Rawandans.

Same for the North Koreans.

And same for the Israelis.

Its only when it comes to Allah's cult, do we find this odd thing called 'murdering innocents' and translating it through our media as 'struggle of the people'. A media, unfortunately, who is all too happy to comply.

[nosferatuscoffin]

You could almost do a Shermanesque quote paraphrased as "The only good Muslim is one who prays to the west".

[Gunnaheave]

This is really quite interesting. I am amazed that it has been so difficult to make aknowledge that Fox news misrepresented a source, or that misrepresentation of sources is a substantive issue. It really doesn't matter that they decided that was the word they'd use; that is an editorial decision they can make if they wish. If they choose to put words in people's mouths for any reason, however, that is lying. Those who refuse to see the problem here are in effect promoting dishonesty in the media. If that is what you want, then so be it.

As to the various charges of bias on the part of "liberal" media, ths is simply a variety of ad hominem. It is no defense of Fox to say that others have done it too. And if you were serious about your own concerns, you would not be using liberal bias as a smoke screen here. It is easy enough to say Fox was wrong on this one, and it will boost your own credibility considerably when you choose to complain about the biases of others.

[Timberwolf]

*never mind*

[BuckeyeMike]

lessee...some dumbass straps explosives on himself with the knowledge that he will die if and when he detonates said explosives. This same dumbass also has all intentions of detonating said explosives, knowing that this is a suicidal act, in the very near vicinity of other humans that will also die from said detonated explosives. Now the dumbass has really done it...he's committed suicide, homicide, and maybe even homocide (who knows, there might be a queer or two in the crowd) and we have to figure just what the hell this guy is, other than the aforestated "dumbass". Is he a suicide bomber? yep! Is he a homicide bomber? uh huh! and now.....and NOW, the dumbass is also a homocide bomber. What a mixed up crazy world we live in eh?

[FatherTime]

What I find more horrifying is Reuters and CNN refusing to call terrorists terrorists, and instead, refer to them as "hardliners" or "militants", often times dropping the "muslim" or "islamic" description as well.

-FT

[DesertFox]

"Fighters."