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DesertFox
12-21-2003, 06:24 PM
Suspicious wives are increasingly hiring so-called "honey-trap girls" to purposely come on to their husbands to test their commitments to their marriages.

According to a report in the Melbourne Herald Sun, women are paying licensed investigators to flirt with their husbands to see how they will react.

"It's a very rewarding job. I love it," Amber confessed to the paper. She had just spent time with a client's husband in a bar. The man, married four years with two young children, gave Amber his telephone number before the evening was over.

"I never let them kiss me, and it's not entrapment because I never ask them for anything," she points out. Entrapment, where the woman initiates contact with the man, is illegal in the area Amber plies her trade.

More (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36242)

nosferatuscoffin
12-21-2003, 09:11 PM
I assume old Bill has a rolodex full of these skanks.

DesertFox
12-21-2003, 09:12 PM
I think Hillary hires them to keep Bill off her, not suspecting she need only be herself to achieve that end.



<font size=1>Bill ain't a-gonna tell</font>

DoctorDoom
12-21-2003, 09:14 PM
I'm pee-ohed. My ex NEVER did that for me. Shee-it!

SouthernReBelle
12-21-2003, 10:03 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I assume old Bill has a rolodex full of these skanks

[/ QUOTE ]

You betcha...and they come with their own set of kneepads..

(laf)

heather

Dash_Riprock
12-22-2003, 11:06 AM
What a disgusting practice. Any wife who does this doesn't deserve her husband.

Rink
12-22-2003, 11:55 AM
a wife that cant trust her husband shouldnt have married him in the first place.

Also isnt there a biblical injunction to not tempt one to sin?
I have always been keenly aware that men just as women can be tempted to sin, so its really best to avoid the temptation altogether.

<font size=1>Correct me if I am wrong Doc okay?</font>

DoctorDoom
12-23-2003, 01:28 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Also isn't there a biblical injunction to not tempt one to sin?

[/ QUOTE ]
There are passages, e.g. Romans 14 and 1 Cor 8, that refer to causing a weaker brother (or sister) to sin, but nothing that refers to deliberately putting temptation in the way of one's spouse.

It can be argued that it's contrary to the directives about how husbands and wives should love, respect, and trust each other, but there is no particular verse one can point to and say, "This forbids it." Like much of the Bible, it depends on knowing what it DOES say and how to apply it to situations that are not specifically covered.

That aside, if a wife knows that her husband is carousing in bars looking for a little in-out action, to the extent that she even knows which bar(s) he haunts, then I can see some possible value to this "service". OTOH, if a babe in a bar decides to "flirt" with a guy when the joint is loaded with younger, better looking dudes, then only a total jerk would fail to see the red flag waving, and probably deserves his comeuppance.

CaliGirl
12-23-2003, 10:40 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Dash_Riprock said:
What a disgusting practice. Any wife who does this doesn't deserve her husband.

[/ QUOTE ]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif It's plain sick.

DesertFox
12-23-2003, 10:47 PM
Well, suspicious, anyway.

nosferatuscoffin
12-23-2003, 11:10 PM
You can be sure that none of these 'women' would be mistaken for a 'honey'. Up or down.

http://www.nosferatuscoffin.com/images/feminazis.gif

DesertFox
12-24-2003, 04:48 AM
<font size=7>Retch<font>

BuckeyeMike
12-24-2003, 12:14 PM
Heard an interview with one of these "honey babes" and she stated that the "babes" get the guys attention, but let the guys make the first move...."so it's not entrapment"! Sorry lady, the first move was when you purposely got the guy's attention!

DoctorDoom
12-24-2003, 03:30 PM
Further info.

http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,305252,00.jpg[ QUOTE ]
ON Tuesday, Sandy went on a mission. Armed with a photograph of her target, the former model, 35, went to a pub in the state's southeast and, spotting him at the bar, set about trying to pick him up.

He was a "grandfather-type", in his 50s, intelligent and well presented. Sandy's client -- the man's former wife, who had recently resumed their relationship -- wanted to know if he'd again be tempted to stray.

It took all of 20 minutes.

Sandy (not her real name) -- who also works a day job she will describe only as "customer-related" -- soon had the man eating out of her hand.

[/ QUOTE ]<br clear="all" />The honey trap (http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,8015717%255E5422,00.html)

That sure as hell ain't Hillary.

According to the Beeb, the company doesn't discriminate. It hires both sexes.

[ QUOTE ]
A private investigation firm is trying to recruit flirtatious men and women to test the fidelity of clients' partners.

The Yorkshire-based company, called The Honey Trap, offers wages of £30 to £50 per hour to people willing to meet a "target" and then report back.

The work is advertised in job centres across the UK on the computerised Job Point database.

A spokesman for the Department of Work and Pensions said there was no pressure for people to apply for the job.

The advert asks for smart and confident people to "detect infidelity in personal relationships and report back to clients".

The website for the company, based in Harrogate, explains what is expected of employees - to observe or flirt with a target to test their fidelity.

[/ QUOTE ]
Honey trap 'flirts' wanted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3078394.stm)

And, if anyone wants to apply for work...

The Honey Trap (http://www.thehoneytrap.net/)

DesertFox
12-24-2003, 04:06 PM
<font size=1>Damn, she's on to me</font>

CaliGirl
12-24-2003, 10:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
nosferatuscoffin said:
You can be sure that none of these 'women' would be mistaken for a 'honey'. Up or down.

http://www.nosferatuscoffin.com/images/feminazis.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

nos, next time post a barf alert before posting all of the ugly feminazis. Thanks!

BTW....my keyboard needs replacing! Thanks in advance! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/merrychristmas.gif

Peachdiane
12-25-2003, 08:30 AM
[ QUOTE ]
And, if anyone wants to apply for work...

[/ QUOTE ]

Ah! A job I am finally qualified for! What's the pay? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

Seriously though, I get hit on all the time at the gym by married men and I don't mean just wandering eyes. When they ask for my number I give them the pest control number....

That wife must be a truly charming woman. Through a deceitful plot she has found out that her husband has very little affection for an insecure, deceitful woman and will offer his phone number like a rope thrown to a drowning man to the first pretty thing that bats her eyelashes. Can you blame him?

Seems to me, women who have such a proclivity to distrust are themselves untrustworthy. What happens if, after paying "thousands of dollars" to test the husbands, the husband doesn't bite? Is the spouse satisfied with the result, I wonder? Or does she continue until the husband takes the bait? If she feels this insecure about her relationship the existence or non-existence of the other woman is not the problem.

If she has these doubts she needs to be working on her own character, maybe pay a little more attention? Quit treating him like dirt?

Now, just imagine what the NOW gang here and other feminazis would do if male models were hired to check out the faithfulness of girlfriends and wives?

nosferatuscoffin
12-25-2003, 09:31 AM
Now, just imagine what the NOW gang here and other feminazis would do if male models were hired to check out the faithfulness of girlfriends and wives?

Deep down, they would probably be green with jealousy, as they know that would NEVER happen to them. Most of those male models would rather drink a castor oil cocktail than try to score with that lot of hags.

DoctorDoom
12-25-2003, 11:02 AM
£30 - £50 per hour, ergo $53.24 to $88.74 at the exchange rate (http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html) as of 12/24/03.

Wyatt_Junker
01-01-2004, 03:23 PM
These paid teases are nothing more than a couple clicks above Heidi Fleiss temps. But, that being said, if men fall for it, they also are nothing more than a few of David Copperfield's worser tricks.

"So, what do you do for a living?"

"I turn men's balls a nice shade of periwinkle."

Not good on the Y-splitter shunt that guards the prostate from releasing urea or hand lotion. That's a lot of stress on a very small piece of biology.

DesertFox
01-01-2004, 03:28 PM
a very small piece of biology

Speak for yourself, white man. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

Wyatt_Junker
01-01-2004, 03:41 PM
[ QUOTE ]
DesertFox said:
a very small piece of biology

Speak for yourself, white man. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm only lily white in my overall, Aryan countenance, but I'm black where it counts, bruthuh. I'll jpeg ya, if ya want proof. I've shattered a few lenses in my time, trying to capture such breadth &amp; scope.

DesertFox
01-01-2004, 04:10 PM
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon133.gif

Rink
01-01-2004, 05:45 PM
Git a room You Two!

nosferatuscoffin
01-01-2004, 10:20 PM
Miss Diane,

You nailed it.

(BTW, I do not blame the guys who have a wandering eye towards you in the gym).

nosferatuscoffin
01-01-2004, 10:21 PM
Speak for yourself, cracker. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Wyatt_Junker
01-01-2004, 10:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
nosferatuscoffin said:
Speak for yourself, cracker. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ] /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

Wyatt_Junker
01-01-2004, 10:38 PM
[ QUOTE ]
nosferatuscoffin said:
Miss Diane,

You nailed it.

(BTW, I do not blame the guys who have a wandering eye towards you in the gym).




[/ QUOTE ]

Peripheral vision quickies can be a mixed blessing at the gym. Inasmuch as you see things you might enjoy, there's an equal amount of regret when darting one's eyes, especially in the late 80's spandex revolution, when pubes used to catch quite regularly near the front entrance to the snack bar. You thought you saw a tarantula out of the corner of your left eye, when lo, it was just some lass who didn't tuck herself in properly. NTM, the sweaty camel toes after a rough 'bout with the Richard Simmons videos. Or the people who never brought a towel with them and left a nice big slicker for you wherever they went. Immodest folks, who overestimated their visual influence for worse rather than better. Not to say any of those are shared qualitites in Peach's case in the slightest. But your post brought back some memories that were lying somewhat dormant until now. I've always been a closet voyeur. Its one of my many vices. And sometimes God has a way of payback.

nosferatuscoffin
01-01-2004, 11:02 PM
Hey, there is nothing worng with telling a beautiful women that she is beautiful.

On the other hand, dormant eyes come with the territory. I should know. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

SouthernReBelle
01-02-2004, 10:47 PM
When I used to powerlift with men, I would be training and the big guys would always "protect" me from jack offs who would "want to hit up on me." I mean, the men I used to work out with were HUGE powerlifters, not whimpy bodybuilders who's brain and penis both are the size of peas.

Yes, I dressed like a powerlifter and yes, I have big breasts but my powerlifting buddies NEVER ONCE hit up on me nor tried to cop a feel or anything. It came down to respect..and the workout, not sex.

Lord, I miss that.

heather

DesertFox
01-02-2004, 11:14 PM
<font size=1>The workout, or sex?</font> /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

*ducks and runs*

SouthernReBelle
01-03-2004, 09:04 PM
Fox, put the camera down, dear...

heather /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Peachdiane
01-04-2004, 10:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
nosferatuscoffin said:
Miss Diane,

You nailed it.

(BTW, I do not blame the guys who have a wandering eye towards you in the gym).

[/ QUOTE ]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon126.gif Thank you for such a kind compliment...

I will tell you what happened today though, during bicep curls. My towel slipped off and fell to the floor. A man at least 20 years my senior (whom I don't even know) came up to me and asked "Is this your towel sweetheart?" SWEETHEART? I answered him with, "Yes it is, darling." /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smack.gif

[ QUOTE ]
Not to say any of those are shared qualities in Peach's case

[/ QUOTE ]

Well thank you for that Wyatt. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif I was gonna tell you there's no more camel toe spandex. The hip thing for women today is to roll the top of their pants WAY down. Or wear mesh short shorts. Guys do the really loose "people you gotta check out my jockstrap" shorts or balloon pants. I thought they went out of style with MC Hammer.

But, some things never change.... There's still the screamers, they're still lifting too heavy and screaming with every rep as if they're giving birth. The two-hour stretchers are still around. These people are some of my favorite. Their entire workout is one big stretching session. The hogs too. Yup, the ones who sit on the leg extension machine and don't move until they do five sets of twenty reps each. SLOWLY....

SouthernReBelle
01-04-2004, 11:05 PM
Sis,

Do you use free weights??

Peachdiane
01-05-2004, 08:22 AM
No but I can hear the screamers on the other side. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif I grew up with free weights in the garage but at the gym there's a two hour cap on kids especially when they use the rock wall, basketball, or play hockey at the rink. So I'm in, on bike or elliptical for 35 minutes and then the strength machines for an hour. By the time I've showered and dressed it's time to round up the kids and head out! http://pluto.imagemagician.com/images/peachdiane/smilies/cowboy.gif

How about you? Getting back into powerlifting?

SouthernReBelle
01-06-2004, 07:52 PM
Really thinking about it...
I'm VERY PROUD OF YOU and what you are doing..I'm considering it again and thinking about going into competition..what do you think?? SHOULD I???

((HUGS)) Miss you terribly!!

Sis

Peachdiane
01-09-2004, 06:37 AM
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon76.gif back at'cha.

If you have the heart and discipline for it, absolutely!!!

I know how many hours you work and you just gotta block off one hour of your day in your palm pilot, day planner, or whatever you use. And then find a routine that will keep both your mind and body stimulated and provide the results that you desire.

I hope you can grab someone to go with. That way you can't come up with an excuse for not showing. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

dPrasse
01-14-2004, 03:09 PM
So I'm in, on bike or elliptical for 35 minutes and then the strength machines for an hour....

i have a bay of hay with your name on it .actual , several bales /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

he he he .....

i dunt need no stinking gym .......

well,maybe , after this cast gets off ..... too much sitting !!!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/loo.gif

(i am getting my reading caught up ....)

dP

SouthernReBelle
01-14-2004, 08:24 PM
Dave!!

Welcome back, dear! Hope that foot gets better..

Sis

Peachdiane
01-15-2004, 08:24 AM
[ QUOTE ]
dPrasse said:
i have a bay of hay with your name on it .actual , several bales /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

he he he .....


[/ QUOTE ]

Oh? Bring it on! I'll finish in half the usual time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

Welcome back sweetie! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/patriot.gif

ThomasMore
03-06-2004, 01:56 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Dash:

"What a disgusting practice. Any wife who does this doesn't deserve her husband."

Rink:

"[A] wife that can't trust her husband shouldn't have married him in the first place....I have always been keenly aware that men just as women can be tempted to sin, so it's really best to avoid the temptation altogether."

[/ QUOTE ]

Women who play games like this do not deserve their husbands. There are also a lot of guys who do not honor their marriage vows. Husbands who are willing to cheat deserve to exposed for cheating. However, there is a big difference between learning or proving that your spouse is actually cheating and tempting your spouse to stray, whether he might or might not otherwise do so.

[ QUOTE ]
As Diane so aptly put it,

"Seems to me, women who have such a proclivity to distrust are themselves untrustworthy. What happens if, after paying 'thousands of dollars' to test the husbands, the husband doesn't bite? Is the spouse satisfied with the result, I wonder? Or does she continue until the husband takes the bait?"

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
"[W]omen are paying licensed investigators to flirt with their husbands to see how they will react....[C]lients are paying thousands of dollars for such fidelity checks....'You buy a house, you're going to have it checked for rising damp, but you get into a relationship and nobody asks any questions.'...[D]emand for such services is booming in Australia....'These techniques have always been used, but in the past 10 years there has probably been a five-fold increase'..."

[/ QUOTE ]

Quite the money-making opportunity for the people willing to do it. Quite the incentive to find hubby guilty, whatever he does, especially when Mrs. Hubby is paying you to tell you what she wants you to find.

[ QUOTE ]
"40 percent of the targeted men do not tell the female investigator they are in a committed relationship."

[/ QUOTE ]

40 percent, 2 out of 5, don't give full disclosure according to the those who have every incentive to find Hubby to be a cheater. I wonder what happened with the other 60 percent, 3 out of 5. I am sure they have that base covered...

[ QUOTE ]
"'In our experience, subjects are innocent in only about 10 percent of cases...'"

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you believe that 90 percent of the guys this game is played on are cheaters? Especially when 3 out of 5 told the "honey trap girls" that they were in committed relationships?

Here is what the "honey trap girl" has to say:

[ QUOTE ]
" "It's a very rewarding job. I love it," Amber confessed to the paper. She had just spent time with a client's husband in a bar. The man, married four years with two young children, gave Amber his telephone number before the evening was over.

...

The woman explained she 'smiled in a flirtatious way' when the man first entered the bar."

[/ QUOTE ]

Getting married guys to play is more than a job, it's an adventure.


[ QUOTE ]
Doom said,

"There are passages, e.g. Romans 14 and 1 Cor 8, that refer to causing a weaker brother (or sister) to sin, but nothing that refers to deliberately putting temptation in the way of one's spouse."

[/ QUOTE ]

Mebbe it's just me, but I would think it is NO LESS important to avoid throwing temptation in the way of your spouse and your household.

[ QUOTE ]
by Doom:

"OTOH, if a babe in a bar decides to "flirt" with a guy when the joint is loaded with younger, better looking dudes, then only a total jerk would fail to see the red flag waving, and probably deserves his comeuppance."

[/ QUOTE ]

If the guy is a flirt and a cheater, sure he does.

[ QUOTE ]
In the bar:

Her: Hi!

Him: Hi. How are you?

Her: I'm fine. Hey, that's a great jacket. Is that what you do?

Him: Yeah. I run a paving and blacktopping company.

Her: That's great! Hey, listen. My name is Tawny. My driveway really needs work. Do you think you could take a look at it and give me an estimate for blacktop?

Him: "Hi, Tawny, my name is Bill. Sure. Let me give you my business card.

Her: (Looks at card for a minute.) "Thanks, Bill! (Bats her eyes.) But listen. I work two jobs, and one of them is on the weekend. It looks like I work during all of your business hours. How could I contact you to schedule something late Saturday afternoon, say 6:00 or 7:00?

Him: Sure. Here is my home phone. Call me and I will set up an inspection and give you an estimate.

Her: Oh, thank you so much, Bill! (Rests her hand on his arm.) You will hear from me soon! (Smiles.)

[/ QUOTE ]

Black Jacques Shellac
03-11-2004, 10:58 AM
Regulars may recall my announcing almost two years ago having found and snagged the perfect woman. One thing that made her perfect was that she fully shared with me, and practices with me, this definition of fidelity:

The Four Forms of Fidelity

1 - Fidelity of the body
Terribly obvious.

2 - Fidelity of the heart
A person does have control over their heart. Old flames are banished. And the entry door is closed to anyone new.

3 - Fidelity of the Mind
Your mate and your life with them is your primary focus. Not exclusive, but definitely primary.

4 - Fidelity of Appearance
Two-prongued: a) You avoid situations that could reasonably cause your mate worry. You reject that modern egotisitical motto "You must trust me." because it is a dishonest denial of human reality. (b) You make it self-evident, in your discourse, your manner and your actions, that you are not just taken, but very happily taken and impenetrable.

Trust? We trust each other to apply these principles as living declarations of our commitment.

DesertFox
03-11-2004, 11:18 AM
And political fidelity? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

Riverboat
03-16-2004, 12:48 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Peachdiane said:
Seriously though, I get hit on all the time at the gym by married men and I don't mean just wandering eyes. When they ask for my number I give them the pest control number....

[/ QUOTE ]
Don't spot me on the bench press. I have a weakness for redheads. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DesertFox
03-18-2004, 08:35 PM
Doesn't everyone?

Peachdiane
03-19-2004, 10:28 PM
Nope, not everyone! Or they do, until such redhead sends them into fits and they swear off woetomens for Lent...

And River, that would not be good, getting distracted by redheads. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

Suzie
03-31-2004, 08:43 PM
If the women would spend more time tempting their husbands themselves they wouldn't have the energy to go looking for more "temptations".