Manipulate election and poll

[kathaksung]

Manipulate election and poll

Howard Dean is a vivid sample of how insider group to use media and intelligence to manipulate an election.

1. In last October, when Dean became a threat to Bush, they at first threw out Wesley Clark to block him. Media said that Clark was the only one in Democratic Party which could beat Bush. ( try to divert the support of Dean to Clark) CNN-USA Today Gallop poll said Clark lead over Bush at the rate of 49% to 46%. How could they get such a result when not much people knew who Clark was?

Even media beat the drum to blow up Clark, the general has never led in any of Demo's primary. Where is the base of that 49% vs Bush's 46%?

2. When they failed to block Dean by Clark, inside group threw out Kerry. Kerry won the first Demo Primary in January. The tactic was the same. Now they said Kerry is the one who can beat Bush. The problem is how could Dean, as a leading candidate in Iowa, suddenly dropped into a result of 18% vs Kerry's 38%? Media use a word "Iowa surprise" to explain this drama. It's not convincible. Consider Demo candidates have similar stands on important issues, that 75% Iowa voters are anti-war, that Kerry has voted for Iraq war authorization Bill.

3. Same show had acted in recall of California. Before the recall, poll said Arnold had 26% vs Bustmonte's(Demo)28%. Another Rep's candidate, Mclintok, had a steady 14%. Mclintok wouldn't pull out the campaign after persuation. Then CNN poll suddenly boosted Arnold a 40% vs Bustmonte's 28%. (with Mclintok's 14% unchanged)
Obviosly, inside group once thought Mclintok would pull out, but he didn't. Of course that wouldn't trouble them, because they control election office thus they control the result. (just like in Florida election) All they had to do was immediately threw out a poll to justify Arnold's victory.

This is how insider group manipulate American election. They steal it by intelligent covert job. (Those who controlled intelligence, they controlled election office) And make people believe the result is reasonable by fake poll.

[kathaksung]

Gang of four

Whatever they talked about economy, immigrant, medicine..... The main point of choosing candidates is. Pro or anti war.

Because inside group needs more war in Mid-east, they make the candidates mostly pro-war one.

Bush is a war president. There is no doubt. He is designated for a second term.

The leading four candidates of Democratic are all pro-war (or at least, obedient to the will of inside group). Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards, Gephardt. They all voted for authorizing Iraq war power to President Bush. Gephardt is the one who introduced the War Authorization Bill. Lieberman, Edwards were the hardest supporters of that bill. The three were hard supporters of Iraq war and honest followers of inside group. Even though they knew most of their constituents are against Iraq war. Now to try to win the chair of Demo President candidate, they changed their face that they are against Bush's Iraq war policy. That's very hypocrite and is almost an open lie.

Most people realize this and go for Howard Dean. To block Dean, inside group threw out Wesley Clark because he has no vote record. You can see the gang of four gathered up fire on Dean but avoid to touch Clark. This is the tactic how inside group to choose their favorite candidate. Follow this line, you can see the reality through the cover up smoke. Whatever they show you of scandal, poll rate..... And surely there will be more to come.

As for Clark who tries to defeat Dean by stealing his anti-war idea, I think he is an insider working for intelligence for a long time. Under his commander he had helped FBI fulfilled two big events. In Waco slaughter and bombing Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia.

See story in: "193. Bombing Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia" and "194. D.o.D. worked for D.o.J. (1/6)" at:

http://hometown.aol.com/katsung563/myhomepage/profile.html

If there is harassment (blank page, slow entering, server busy....) try

http://forums.delphiforums.com/police915/messages/?msg=25.1

[Warlady]

What is your point?

[kathaksung]

Point: See US politics From another angle .

It looks like a democratic system. It's not. The two parties are all under control of inside group. Politicians are puppets. The campaign is actually like a horse racing. And the candidates are like domesticated horses.

This time the inside group like Bush to stay in 2nd term of president because he is obedient. He followed the order to start an injustice war. So they keep him there because they want more war. The other candidate who may be a possible threat to Bush were advised to leave.

What is the target of politicians? President. Can you immagine a department manager give up the chance to be raised to the position of executive president? But Tom Daschle and Al Gore were advised to abandon to election 2004. Because they may defeat Bush. And they obeyed. That's why I say it's a domestic horse racing. Everything depends on Master's will.

They leave some incompetant horses for Demo and make it a chaotic circus. Let them attack each other. All to make sure Bush can continue to be a "war president".

And of course, you always see those government accessaries, discredit this and support that. At the purpose to weak Demo and strenthen Bush.

[Warlady]

Oh bullshit

[FatherTime]

KKKaksung-

Lay off the meds, or if you are not taking any, start.

-FT

[DesertFox]

kat, are you from Zircon or Arcturus?

[nosferatuscoffin]

He is a Zeeblewok escapee.

Those that do not lift their daily ration of dung are sent to their verson of Gitmo. Or shall I say, here...

[Dakota_Cowboy]

Good imagination. I'm sure books will be written and highly held concerning this. Liberal books.

Dakota Cowboy

[DesertFox]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smack.gif But of course! I should have guessed by the feathers growing out of his prehensile ears.

[kathaksung]

Three musketeers

There were two big events in House in Bush presidency. One was passing through of the Bill of Patriot Act and other one is the Bill of Authorizing the use of armed force against Iraq. These two bills seriously eroding the civil rights of US citizens and their interest but largely benefit the inside group. They even activated anthrax attack(for Patriot Act) and DC sniper shooting (for the bill to authorize Iraq war power) to push through the two bills. After the bills passed successfully, the media published pictures to show that it was supported by two parties. The picture showed Bush was in the center, with Lieberman, Edwards, Gephardt came beside him. Like three musketeers stood with the king. Kerry, though being gang of four, even not qualified to be in the picture. They are the hard core of inside group followers.

Edwards has another character. He works covertly like Wesley Clark and Arnold Schwarzinneger. When Clark suddenly joined campaign, he has a clean vote history because he has never been a politician. Arnold at first denied he would be candidate in California recall, only at last minute announced involvement. Same tactic like Clark. Arnold also ducked all candidates debate. Edwards worked in same way. Try not to be in focus, avoid conflict. At this point, he and Clark and Arnold could be viewed as three musketeers from Feds.

Howard Dean was the target of insider group because his anti-war stand. They manipulated election, media and poll to pull Dean down. The resiganation of Dean's campaign manager gave him a last hit. When they created a situation that Dean was hopeless, why they are so eager want Dean announceing his out? It is paving way for Edwards' victory.

As a block to Dean, Kerry's mission is done. With possibility, there could be a bigger surprise than Iowa one. Don't be astonished if you hear Edwards win super March 2 primary. Most election are rigged one.

[kathaksung]

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Though either Bush or Clinton are politicians cultivated by inside group, they more or less belong to a party and sometimes must stand for Party's interest. So the best way is to have a candidate of their own. We can see now how intelligence have their own people to join the campaign. Such like Clark. (Clark was pro GOP before, and was said not even registered as Demo the night before he became a president candidate of Demo Party), and Arnold Schwarzenneger.

Though he rides the boat of GOP, Schwarzenegger is propaganded more as a man of both parties. The tactic inside group used is:

1. Make Schwarzenegger keeping a distance from Bush because Bush is becoming notorious.

2. Empysize his personal relationship with Demo. That his wife Maria is a nephew of former President Kennedy. Reporting he was received warmly by Senator Edward Kennedy in DC.

3. To create a figure of a successful politician, inside group activated their resource in Demo to support Schwarzenegger. When Arnold became the governor, he turned over two bills, "Drive license for illegal immigrant" bill, "Automobile license fee" bill. These important bills signed by former Demo Governor Davis and supported by Democratic Party, now are abolished without trouble in a governmet dominated by Demo. Those Demos, once have voted yes on these bills, now vote no.

Another big event is the "Bond bill". The way Schwarzenneger suggested to solve California finance problem is borrowing money. Which was once opposed by Demo. Later it was passed without trouble too. Here we can see there is no opposing Party. Any opinion could be easily changed to master's will. When there is a demand from inside group, the opposing party became tame sheep.

4. Media blow up Schwarzenneger with big effort. In newspaper, (San Jose Mercury News which I read) almost everyday there is big article with picture of Schwarzenneger to boost his fame.

After they stole California, they are preparing to take over the US with their own candidate. You probably will see in near future they change the constitution the rule that only native born American can be US president. To pave the way particularly for their own candidate, Arnold Schwarzenneger.

[DesertFox]

Kat, you still got any connections at all with the ground?

[SouthernReBelle]

[ QUOTE ]
After they stole California, they are preparing to take over the US with their own candidate.

[/ QUOTE ]

You must be one of the ladies who stood in line in San Francisco when they announced that the gay unions were to be stopped.

We didn't steal anything. The people of California voted unless you've been living in the Underground for too long...then you'd believe your own shit.

heather

[tacitus]

Would someone please give kat his double insulated tin foil beanie /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinhat.gif he really needs one.

[CaliGirl]

[ QUOTE ]
kathaksung said:

1. Make Schwarzenegger keeping a distance from Bush because Bush is becoming notorious.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who is Make Schwarzenegger?

[ QUOTE ]
2. Empysize his personal relationship with Demo. That his wife Maria is a nephew of former President Kennedy. Reporting he was received warmly by Senator Edward Kennedy in DC.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maria is NOT a NEPHEW to anyone, sorry to burst your bubble!

[ QUOTE ]
3. To create a figure of a successful politician, inside group activated their resource in Demo to support Schwarzenegger. When Arnold became the governor, he turned over two bills, "Drive license for illegal immigrant" bill, "Automobile license fee" bill. These important bills signed by former Demo Governor Davis and supported by Democratic Party, now are abolished without trouble in a governmet dominated by Demo. Those Demos, once have voted yes on these bills, now vote no.

[/ QUOTE ]

What is your point?

[ QUOTE ]
Another big event is the "Bond bill". The way Schwarzenneger suggested to solve California finance problem is borrowing money. Which was once opposed by Demo. Later it was passed without trouble too. Here we can see there is no opposing Party. Any opinion could be easily changed to master's will. When there is a demand from inside group, the opposing party became tame sheep.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who is the changed to master's will? I am clueless to what you are speaking about.

[ QUOTE ]
4. Media blow up Schwarzenneger with big effort. In newspaper, (San Jose Mercury News which I read) almost everyday there is big article with picture of Schwarzenneger to boost his fame.

[/ QUOTE ]

Congrats that you can read, let alone the San Jose Mercury News! I give you this /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon120.gif

[ QUOTE ]
After they stole California, they are preparing to take over the US with their own candidate.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who is they and what did they steel from CA. What are they preparing to take over from the US? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon127.gif

[ QUOTE ]
You probably will see in near future they change the constitution the rule that only native born American can be US president. To pave the way particularly for their own candidate, Arnold Schwarzenneger.

[/ QUOTE ]

Again, who is they?. What you wrote makes NO sense what so ever! Arnold is NOT a born American, and can NEVER be President.

I am exhausted from what you wrote, which makes no sense at all!

[Gone_with_the_Wind]

Oy... they forgot to give Kat his Thorazine before they let him go on his weekend pass from the state hospital again. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif

Kat, honey, you need to call that number they gave you. Okay?

[kathaksung]

Correction: Maria is the niece of Kennedy. Sorry for using the wrong word nephew.
------------------
From another angle to see the terror attack - Madrid bombing.

Have you ever considered US or Israel intelligence might be behind it? I allege so based on following reason.

1. The known attack from Al Quada all directed against US. The bombing US embassy in Afirica; the bombing of US Cole; 911 attack aimed at US government, military and Jewish financial interest.(WTC is viewed as a financial center where there was a lot of Jewish financial institution). But at this time it is totally aimed at a foreign country and its civilians.

2. Al Quada is said heavily hit by Bush's anti-terror war. Bin Laden is said to be in trap of US military. How can it activate such a big attack?

3. The time is sensible. It took place just days before the Spainish election. Who thinks highly of election? Not the Islamic extremist who have little democratic opinion and not familiar with election. But the inside group of US know the impotance of election. They know election is the only way in democratic system to get the power. And they are professional to manipulate an election. Such like this election year, they let out the information that Bin Laden will be arrested. To support Bush and his war policy, to maintain an international ally is important for him.

In US, such an terror attack would generally boost the public's enthusiasm to support the government. It's no surprise if they use it in Spain. Only this time it doesn't work. Because Iraq war is real unpopular.

4. Even Al Quada really care Iraq and Saddam that much, (the fact is Saddam and Bin Laden had different opinion and there is no evidence they had cooperated in terror attack.) the revenge target should be Great Britain which practically joined war, or Poland which actively joined occupation. A bombing in Spain is nothing else but to influence the election.

5. US government has a history to plan to attack its own people to provoke a war. The plan of Northwoods is evidence. And there was anthrax attack and DC sniper shooting which I also viewed as attack from inside group to push for war.

It doesn't make sense for Al Quada to seek the hostility against them from people in Europe at this time. If they can do it now, why not do it at the time when US invaded Afghan and Iraq? Even people of Spain didn't suspect Al Quada at first but the Basque group of their own country.

Though authority quickly said they found clues and Morocan suspects linked to Al Quada, it could be a manipulated case. In events of Islamic rebellion in Philippines and Monbasa terror attack, the hand behind terrorist were intelligence of US and Israel. (see #193 - 196, 199, 204) You know how easy it is to frame a terror attack if you know the story of smuggle of shoulder-fired missile. (# 205)

People are always the loser of a war in which they lose their lives and treasure. Only a little group of celebrities benefit from it. Either for more police power or business interest. That's why people all over the world are anti-war, include US'. The event in Spain proves that democracy system in Spain still works. It's a sorrow that US is becoming a covert totalitarian country. Where intelligence control media and election, manipulate sentiment of public. They create incidents to justify a war.

Madrid bombing is more like a tactic to help the election of Bush's ally Aznar in Spain to strenthen Bush's war policy in an election year.

I would say it's Bush's war policy fails in Spain.

For reason why I say US intelligence is behind the terrorist attack, see messages 191 to 199, 204, 205 at:

http://hometown.aol.com/katsung563/myhomepage/profile.html

If there is harassment (blank page, slow entering, server busy....) try

http://forums.delphiforums.com/police915/messages/?msg=25.1

[kathaksung]

About Liberman

Liberman is another choice of inside group. That's obvious when they made Al Gore pull out of the election of 2004. If you know from the beginning that US politics is played by a shadow group of insiders. The debate of 9 candidates is only a drama for the public and give some material for those experts to discuss.

The road map of Mid-east is not finished yet. Bush, though is awarded a high approve rate by media, is actually disliked by most Americans. With Liberman as Demo's candidate, either elected can assure insider group that their interest will persist.

Liberman, who actively pushed the "patriot Act" passing through, and stand firmly by the side of Bush when he need Iraq war power, is actually a Republican inside Democratic party. He was arranged to be vice President in 2000 election if Bush failed, and in 2002, they paved way for him to be the President's candidate of Democrats by forcing Al Gore's pulling out.

[DesertFox]

Kat:

I don't think you know it, but that guy WyattJunker on this board? He's part of the insider group. He's reporting everything you tell us back to headquarters.

Keep looking over your shoulder because he has some rough friends, him being from California and all.

[21stcenturyrome]

this person is out of their mind. i thought i was a conspiracy theorist.

[kathaksung]

My thread "Gang of 4" was locked. Don't know why.

To continue:

237. The June plot (6/29)

Though the "6/19 terror attack" failed to be carried out, other events show how Feds prepared to frame a case in June.

On 6/17, S.J.M.N. reported, "Board OKs merging sheriff, coroner offices. In a move aimed at saving money, Santa Clara County leaders on Wednesday approved a controversial plan to allow the sheriff's department to manage the coroner's office. But the merger worries opponents who believe it could create an extra layer of public mistrust toward law enforcement."

In message "170. Suspends Coroner (10/11)" I talked about how Feds plotted to oust the chief medical examiner Schmunk. Finally Feds got coroner's office under their control. It will help them to cover up the murder committed in the coming framed case.

On same day 6/17, local Chinese TV reported a Chinese dissenter, Peng Min, was arrested in Burma and was handed over to Chinese government. Peng Min favours to overturn Chinese government by violence. About a year ago(?), he appeared in a talk show of that TV station. In interview he called for people to join his orgnization. He said that he needed qualified personnel to fill the post of Defense Minister and etc. He offered three to four thousands dollars of monthly salary for these posts. The host of talk show asked him where did he got that much money. Of course, Peng Min would not reveal his financial source. By common sense, it was from intelligence.

Peng Min was arrested a short time before 6/17. He was charged of holding a large amount of forgery Chinese currency by Burmese police. He was delivered to Chinese government quickly. I think he was arranged there by intelligence. Peng Min might have thought he was working to overturn current Chinese government. He could never dream of that he became a chip in a secret deal and was sold by his host. He became a payment to Chinese secret police to exchange for a framed drug case D.O.J. wants.

It was similar to the framed case in April when my wife went to HongKong visiting her dying adopted father. For that case, US had deported one of China most wanted escaped corruptive official to China. FBI director Mueller also announced HongKong would be attacked by Al Qaida terrorists then. Now, Ashcroft and Mueller announced the coming summer attack by Al Qaida. And, too, they gave Chinese government one of their most wanted as interest exchange - a political dissenter.

Because US still holds a title of democracy which Bush used to "liberate" Iraq, Feds couldn't deport a political dissenter to China. So the secret deal was fulfilled by the third country-Burma. (see "222. Perform a secret deal (4/19), 223. FBI director said HongKong will be attacked (4/24)")

Former P.M. of Spain, Aznar was an ally of Bush. I alleged Madrid bombing was done to help his election. So, he should be familiar with these "terror attacks".
Here is an excerpt from an article:

Quote, "During his visit to California, Aznar referred more than once about a terrorist attack taking place in the United States in June, 2004, which would lead to a Federal Emergency Management Agency takeover of the U.S. (International Herald Tribune, May 15, 16, 17, Los Angeles Times, May 15)"

What made Aznar so sure there would be an "terror attack" in June? He might be able to access some inside information. I based on my own experience knew the mastermind is D.O.J. and their purpose is to eliminate a witness of their crime. For them this is a real imminent danger. Of course, to help their puppet Bush in election as well, too.

The above article is an interesting one, worth to read.

Quote, "Rogue Bush Backers prepare Super 9/11 False Flag Terror Attacks

INN Preview Exclusive -June 2

By Webster Griffin Tarpley

Toronto, May 30 - Intelligence patterns monitored over the US Memorial
Day weekend now point conclusively to an imminent new round of ABC
(atomic-bacteriological-chemical) terror attacks in the United States,"

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=355

[tacitus]

It was locked because you are are troll.

[UnkHiram]

21st Rome

You are a conspiracy crazy, but at least you take your medication. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/viking.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jk.gif

[Timberwolf]

[ QUOTE ]
21stcenturyrome said:
this person is out of their mind. i thought i was a conspiracy theorist.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah...but at least most of your CTs are of a rational sort!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif