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Suzie
02-22-2002, 03:24 PM
Copter Caught Fire Before Crash
By ADAM BROWN Associated Press Writer


APO ISLAND, Philippines - A U.S. military helicopter apparently caught fire before plunging into the sea in the southern Philippines before dawn Friday while participating in a counterterrorism training exercise, witnesses said.

Three bodies were recovered shortly after the crash near the tiny island of Apo. The other seven Americans on board remained missing as night fell. Little debris had been recovered from the deep water and swift currents.

No survivors had been found, and Brig. Gen. Donald Wurster, head of the U.S. forces in the exercise, said he hoped the missing would be found alive.

''We are doing everything with our Philippine friends to find them. These were friends of mine, so it's a difficult part of our jobs,'' he said.

Maj. Paul Fitzpatrick, an Army spokesman at Fort Campbell, Ky., said the crew was from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment and that the other two men were Air Force para-rescue jumpers. The 160th, known as the ''Night Stalkers,'' slips special forces commandos behind enemy lines aboard Black Hawk and Chinook helicopters.

The group was part of a 600-strong U.S. contingent that has come to the Philippines for six months to help local troops in their battle against the murderous Abu Sayyaf. The rebel group is holding
MORE HERE (http://www.usatoday.com/aponline/2002022215/2002022215402500.htm)


But hey, you saved a few bucks on repairs and improvements over those 8 years though didn't you Mr. Clinton? I guess he felt results like this were worth it! images/icons/mad.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
02-22-2002, 03:52 PM
Common to this and the CH46. Transmission failure often overheats the fluid which can catch fire.

Again, thanks to Clinton and scaled back defense budgets.

Suzie
02-22-2002, 03:56 PM
Hey Keith did you see this story in stars and stripes?

Helicopters hate dust, and there's plenty of it in Afghanistan (http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=6893)

**DONOTDELETE**
02-22-2002, 04:10 PM
Yes, a good friend of mine is a retired Blackhawk pilot.
He spent a year in the Kingdom during the early 90's...he knows about dust and birds.

FWIW, landing in dust at night illuminates the rotor disk and is quite distracting especially under NVG.

Warlady
02-22-2002, 04:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Suzie:
Hey Keith did you see this story in stars and stripes?

Helicopters hate dust, and there's plenty of it in Afghanistan (http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=6893)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Except this crash took place in the Phillipines...jungle and water

**DONOTDELETE**
02-22-2002, 04:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Warlady:
Except this crash took place in the Phillipines...jungle and water<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And fine beach sand. Also volcanic dust.

All Army birds are expensive to fly. Clintoon et al destroyed the inventory and now that we need them, they are falling out of the sky.