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**DONOTDELETE**
09-13-2001, 04:37 PM
USA: UPDATE 2-U.S. Congress vows to step up war on terror. By Adam Entous

09/13/2001
Reuters English News Service
(C) Reuters Limited 2001.

WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (Reuters) - The White House and congressional leaders neared agreement on Thursday on a bipartisan "resolution of resolve" to back potential anti-terrorist military strikes by President George W. Bush.

"We want to give him the tools that he needs and the administration needs to deal with this problem," House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri told reporters.

Such resolution could be brought to the floors of the House of Representatives and Senate for approval as early as Friday, provided an agreement can be reached on language, Democratic and Republican aides said.

The initial resolution offered by the White House and Republicans was seen by Democrats as too vague and broad, two top Democratic leadership aides said.

Bush already has the power to authorize limited military action in retaliation for the terrorists attacks on Tuesday against New York City's World Trade Center and the Pentagon outside of Washington in Virginia.

But House aides said the resolution would demonstrate and underscore congressional support and provide the president with the still-to-be agreed upon broader power.

They said it would also be in place of a formal declaration of war , which one lawmaker, Rep. Bob Barr, a Georgia Republican, planned to introduce later on Thursday.

SEEKS CONSENSUS

"We are going to find a consensus and move on this," said Greg Crist, a spokesman for House Republican Leader Dick Armey of Texas.

Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota said there may be an agreement on the resolution later on Thursday.

Gephardt, speaking on ABC-TV's "Good Morning America," said, "The president has sent language that we're looking at, we'll be talking about with him and his people today."

"It's a joint resolution, as I understand it, of the Congress that gives him legal authority to respond to this situation and to use force," Gephardt said.

Admitting there was some confusion about constitutional war powers, Gephardt said, "I'm not sure whether and what is needed."

"We're going to figure that out today, but the president is going to have what he needs in terms of resources and authority," Gephardt said.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, said, "We're going to take up a resolution that basically gives the president the ability to respond.

"It's not necessarily war powers but it's within the framework of the War Powers Act," Hastert said.

NO FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR

Sen. John Warner of Virginia, ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee, said a formal declaration of war would be inappropriate and problematic.

First off, Warner said, "I think it would be beneath our dignity to have a declaration of war against (Osama) bin Laden," the Saudi-born, anti-western dissident living in exile in Afghanistan who has emerged as a potential suspect in Tuesday's attack.

"Secondly," Warner said, if there was such a declaration, "the American public and the world would expect the troops to move the day afterward, and I don't think we are anywhere near, in the assessment of the situation, to have that clarity."

Early Thursday morning, a separate resolution condemning the most deadly terrorist attacks ever on American soil won final congressional approval.

The House passed the nonbinding measure by 408-0, about 12 hours after the Senate also unanimously approved it, 100-0.

The resolution declared Wednesday "a national day of unity and mourning," promised to increase "resources in the war to eradicate terrorism" and thanked foreign leaders who have "expressed solidarity with the United States."

House and Senate leaders hoped to reach agreement on yet another measure on Thursday, one that would provide $20 billion in emergency relief in response to terrorist attacks.

Bush initially asked for open-ended spending authority to deal with the devastation at New York City's World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But some members balked. So Republican and Democratic leaders moved toward crafting the limited package.

The money would be spent on: insuring federal, state and local preparedness; investigating and prosecuting the perpetrators; tightening airport and other transit security; pursuing rescue and recovery at the sites; and meeting overall national security needs.

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**DONOTDELETE**
09-13-2001, 04:41 PM
Looks like there's no consensus : Some in the administration want to discover exactly who attacked the WTC and DC, and declare war only on them or those harboring them. Others want a broader definition : Attack any and all known terrorist groups and the nations known to harbor them, w/o making alink specifically with them and the attacks on Tuesday. This was the closest to an agreement that they could make. Notice no one voted against the measures in house or senate, so...

MaximumSam
09-13-2001, 04:47 PM
I have heard that there are more than 60 known terrorist groups that can threaten the U.S. Why don't we systematically eliminate them? People have gotten plenty upset about the military being used for "peacekeeping." Why don't we use it to round up these terrorists, in sort of a Doc Holliday style?

Venus
09-13-2001, 04:59 PM
Osammie, that's an excellent idea. You should send your suggestion to the DoD. Perhaps flesh it out a little.

Seriously, Good Idea!

**DONOTDELETE**
09-13-2001, 05:05 PM
Colin Powell stated today that it is the intention of the government to go after the persons responsible for this attack and AT THE SAME TIME go after any and all groups that have posed a threat to us. They know who they are talking about. This event has given the government an opportunity to rid this planet of the vermin that raise their children to hate us and try to eliminate us.

I think Powell is on the right track. I assume he is not speaking out on his own and is projecting the President's wishes as well. Congress needs to shut up and back Senator Barr's petition to declare war. There need not be a specific person or group named it can be a collective declaration of war against guerilla factions that are a threat to the USA.

As has been mentioned many times this week we are in a new world. Gone are the old rules of war where our enemy is a specific state or leader. In todays war there is no one enemy. It has been agreed by ALL in power that an act of war has been waged on our country, the ONLY way to respond to that is to declare that the USA is at war with these factions.

As Powell stated there ARE things that our allies will assist us with. Those will have guidelines and MUST be agreed upon. There is NOTHING preventing the USA from acting alone in other areas as Powell stated and which he KNOWS we will be acting alone on. A declaration of war against these madmen is only a confirmation and open support of our President. It should be passed.