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**DONOTDELETE**
10-16-2001, 02:24 PM
Oct 15, 2001


Rep. Traficant, Facing Federal Trial on Bribery Charges, Files Privilege Motion
By Sarah Freeman
Associated Press Writer

CLEVELAND (AP) - U.S. Rep. James Traficant asked a federal judge Monday to suppress hundreds of pages of evidence the government plans to use against him in his upcoming trial on bribery and racketeering charges.

Traficant filed a motion saying the evidence is protected under a congressional "speech and debate clause privilege" in the Constitution. He argued that it allows members of Congress to speak freely while acting in their official capacity without fear of prosecution.

The documents all "occurred in the regular and customary course of the legislative process," the motion says.

Prosecutors have said the evidence proves Traficant made statements outside his role in Congress to people "from whom he was seeking, demanding, accepting and receiving things of value."

Traficant faces trial Feb. 4 on charges he accepted cash, meals and work on his farm in exchange for political favors.

Most of the documents are letters and e-mail about his dealings with Youngstown businessman J.J. Cafaro and Cafaro's company, U.S. Aerospace Group.

In one letter, Traficant told Cafaro he was writing to the Federal Aviation Administration in support of legislation that would install the company's technology at airports nationwide. Prosecutors say Cafaro gave Traficant $13,000, an advance on the purchase of Traficant's boat, 10 days later. Cafaro pleaded guilty in May to conspiracy to bribe.

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Poor man - it must be a VRWC!!

DesertFox
10-16-2001, 02:27 PM
Caught red-handed. Darn!

**DONOTDELETE**
10-16-2001, 02:49 PM
MAFIA images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Warlady
10-16-2001, 03:11 PM
He's taking a play from Clinton's stonewalling playbook. Darn I really like Traficant too. Our elected officials need to learn they are not above the law. I want him to be innocent. I hope he wins his case on the facts. I sure as hell don't trust Reno.

PaulRevere
10-16-2001, 03:20 PM
Never mind! images/icons/blush.gif

Warlady
10-16-2001, 03:27 PM
PR I think you're thinking of Toreccelli.

PaulRevere
10-16-2001, 03:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Warlady:
PR I think you're thinking of Toreccelli.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oops. I was images/icons/blush.gif . I thought you were using dry sarcasm in the above post about liking Traficant and wanting him to get off, but I guess not. images/icons/blush.gif

Warlady
10-16-2001, 03:32 PM
No I really like Traficant. The Dems hate him too so it's like a double scoop of ice cream images/icons/smile.gif

Venus
10-16-2001, 03:34 PM
The motion is a standard legal maneuver. He'd be stupid not to have filed it, plus more.

The next move is Ashcroft's.

Warlady
10-16-2001, 03:42 PM
Venus are you familiar with this case? I really want this to be a railroad job by the government. If Traficant helping a constituent and that constituent buying his boat is all they have then it sounds like a rem job to me.

Venus
10-16-2001, 04:18 PM
Somewhat familiar.

As far as I can tell, the complaint and information against him have some factual merit, but the motivation for bringing the charges are straight out of J. Edgar Hoover's revenge playbook.

Traficant's been vocal about the case as a whole, but quite tight-lipped about the evidence itself, so it's hard to know what he's got up his sleeve. Therefore, it's hard to know what he can factually rebut vs. what he has to dance to eliminate from the puddle of stink the vengeful FBI and fed prosecutors developed.

The feds and the FBI have had an axe to grind with him for years since he trounced them back in the early '80s. He should have quit while he was ahead, but I don't think he did.

He's likely guilty of at least some of the charges and, if he'd played ball with Clinton-Reno, they probably would have disappeared like Hitliary's billing records. But, since Traficant is flamboyant, and does have some integrity and love for his country, he spoke out against Clinton-Reno frequently and noisily.

So the charges didn't go away.

There're plenty in congress who have done much worse than what Jimmy's accused of and they suffer no pending charges. Hitliary and Condit come to mind immediately.

So it's down to a matter of legal-maneuvering and political theatrics, and it doesn't look good for Jimmy. Ashcroft could pull Jimmy's ashes from the fire, but I doubt that he will. He might let him twist awhile, though, at least until Ashcroft gets all his legislation successfully passed.

I wish him luck. I like him too, although he disappointed me on the occasion of his impeachment vote.

But the boy definitely needs a new 'do'.

Warlady
10-16-2001, 04:28 PM
What????? You don't like his birds nest? images/icons/grin.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
10-16-2001, 05:01 PM
This has been going on for years.. he has addressed it on fox news network and challenged his accusers to come out and debate the issue... put up or shut up. The Dems hate him because he has a mind of his own.

Mr. Speaker, "Beam me up."

s'il ressemble à la merde et il sent comme la merde, il n'est probablement pas foie gras! quack... quack!

if it looks like a terrorist and it smells like a terrorists, it's probably not an engineering student.

Venus
10-16-2001, 05:20 PM
PG, WL, lol!

PG, it's SOP for the prosecution (and their investigators) to not reveal evidence or 'debate' a case in an open, public forum. Traficant was indicted several months ago by a grand jury that conducted an investigation spanning several years.

He's up for the usual slate of 'mob' charges like RICO stuff, bribery, tax stuff, obstruction (yeah, like the Justice Dept. has room to talk on that one!), and I forget what all else. The feds paraded all these witnesses before the grand jury. They all supported the bribery and racketeering themes. Most of them are in prison now, serving shortened sentences for ratting Jimmy off.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-16-2001, 06:59 PM
Venus, I understand the strategy of prosecutors. But I also understand the discloser laws... they have nothing on him that he cannot have access too. Traficant can’t be completely clean.. Look where he Is from. But, this is all democratic Bull Sh#$ because he refuses to play their game. He’ll walk from this. Spin, Spin, Spin... He may be the only sane Democrat in Congress.